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12/28/2008 12:29:17 PM · #1
Originally posted by bergiekat:

I think this is what you mean...(copied from the website.).

2.53GHz
* Intel Core 2 Duo
* 15-inch widescreen
* 4GB Memory
* 320GB hard drive1
* NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT with 512MB

The card at Best Buy explained it easier. The box says this: MSP 15.4/2.53/2XGB/320/SD/512VRAM ?/!! Should I be looking in another place??


That's a great laptop you've got there. You should be fine.
12/28/2008 12:25:15 PM · #2
Originally posted by bergiekat:

I've also heard that Aperture is a resource hog compared to Lightroom. Would that be a concern with this computer?...


No. Given your specs, it should run like a dream.
12/28/2008 12:20:15 PM · #3
I think this is what you mean...(copied from the website.).

2.53GHz
* Intel Core 2 Duo
* 15-inch widescreen
* 4GB Memory
* 320GB hard drive1
* NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT with 512MB

The card at Best Buy explained it easier. The box says this: MSP 15.4/2.53/2XGB/320/SD/512VRAM ?/!! Should I be looking in another place??

Message edited by author 2008-12-28 12:21:12.
12/28/2008 12:08:54 PM · #4
Originally posted by bergiekat:

I've also heard that Aperture is a resource hog compared to Lightroom. Would that be a concern with this computer?It supposedly has dedicated memory just for the graphics card. (And...does that mean absolutely nothing here, lol)


Can you post the specs? Processor, RAM, HD, etc?

I've been running Aperture on a MacBook without any issues.
12/28/2008 12:02:12 PM · #5
I've also heard that Aperture is a resource hog compared to Lightroom. Would that be a concern with this computer?It supposedly has dedicated memory just for the graphics card. (And...does that mean absolutely nothing here, lol)

Message edited by author 2008-12-28 12:02:46.
12/28/2008 11:25:15 AM · #6
Originally posted by bergiekat:

OK, I crossed over yesterday, bought the Macbook Pro 15", but after reading this entire thread...I'm concerned that mine is not the latest and greatest and that my Seagate external won't work with it (as I was told it would). Many of you have spoken about the Macs on a very technical level. I just "use" mine, so are there issues I need to look for? How do I tell what generation mine is?? It's the aluminum unibody w/led screen.

I was FINE until I read all of your comments, lol. :)

Aperture is not opened yet...should I return for Lightroom? Is there something better for photo editing than CS4 for Mac? ($600 to upgrade/switch platforms from Adobe)

Some of you have already gotten PMs as I hadn't seen this thread, but any insight as to what software and should I be concerned that mine is already old?


Did you buy it new? If so, it is the latest. If not, you can go to the Apple web site. There is a support section and you can put in the model number or serial number and find all the specs. Your Seagate should work fine, assuming it is USB or Firewire, the mac will read the drive even if it is formatted for Windows.

I prefer Aperture over Lightroom, but both are good. CS4 is outstanding.

Have fun!
12/28/2008 10:50:25 AM · #7
OK, I crossed over yesterday, bought the Macbook Pro 15", but after reading this entire thread...I'm concerned that mine is not the latest and greatest and that my Seagate external won't work with it (as I was told it would). Many of you have spoken about the Macs on a very technical level. I just "use" mine, so are there issues I need to look for? How do I tell what generation mine is?? It's the aluminum unibody w/led screen.

I was FINE until I read all of your comments, lol. :)

Aperture is not opened yet...should I return for Lightroom? Is there something better for photo editing than CS4 for Mac? ($600 to upgrade/switch platforms from Adobe)

Some of you have already gotten PMs as I hadn't seen this thread, but any insight as to what software and should I be concerned that mine is already old?
12/04/2008 01:57:32 PM · #8
Originally posted by Louis:

Is it possible that v2 of the new MacBook would come out so close on the heels of the first? October to February is only a four month difference.


I was talking to a serious Apple user last night, has owned systems since the Mac SE, and he says their average time now is 3 months between generations, and 6-12 months between models.

A generation is the same model but with fixes applied to it as required, usually no new features unless they are software patches.

A new model is usually distinctive from the previous model, new or removed ports for example, major features. Bells, whistles, you know.

At least that is how I understand it. :)
12/04/2008 01:57:12 PM · #9
They've done it before- the infamous Mac IIvi lasted 4 months. This just sounds like a firmware update though.
12/04/2008 01:51:26 PM · #10
Is it possible that v2 of the new MacBook would come out so close on the heels of the first? October to February is only a four month difference.
12/04/2008 11:44:39 AM · #11
Originally posted by togtog:

Note this is all hearsay from someone on the Apple discussion forum...

Apple is planning to release a firmware update for the unibody macbooks in order to address the random locking up while gaming. The expected time is within the next three weeks. All currently shipping macbooks have already been updated.

If that were true, a fix in hand that Apple is applying to shipping MacBooks, it wouldn't take three weeks to release it. The patch would probably be posted via Software Update within days.
12/04/2008 11:40:47 AM · #12
Note this is all hearsay from someone on the Apple discussion forum...

Apple is planning to release a firmware update for the unibody macbooks in order to address the random locking up while gaming. The expected time is within the next three weeks. All currently shipping macbooks have already been updated.

I'm not knowledgeable enough about Apple hardware and the exact reason of the lockups to assess if a firmware update is what is needed. I guess we will see soon if this actually fixes peoples problems or just covers them up (higher fan speed for example)

Just thought I'd give a little heads up since it might apply to some of your machines, I'll keep you updated if I can.
12/03/2008 02:55:28 PM · #13
Just a random and friendly reminder that the second gen unibody macbooks should be out jan or feb 2009, the current gen has a number of issues that unless you NEED a macbook NOW would be much safer waiting.

And we can always hope for a matte option!

Speaking of transferring stuffs and drives and whatnot I am looking into an esata express card (macbook pro only, sorry guys), and an esata multi-card reader. Then I can transfer camera cards, and connect my external drive, which is USB/esata.
12/03/2008 02:45:20 PM · #14
update: I found and bought a NOS black macbook at bestbuy with 2.4ghz/2gb ram/250gb hd. I found everything that I was looking for $1200, so I'm happy;-). Not to mention my wife & I won't get our macbooks confused since mines black.
12/03/2008 12:23:28 PM · #15
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by scarbrd:

You can get a 250GB or a 320 GB in the $100 range.

Bah... $50, shipped.


Even better!
12/03/2008 12:18:45 PM · #16
Originally posted by Gordon:

I'm sorry got my bits mixed up. USB 3.0 is 4.8Gbps the next evolution of firewire is 3.2Gbps. There's a claimed 6.4Gbps firewire proposal too.

It's at that point the cables start emitting gamma radiation and we all get our DNA scrambled.
12/03/2008 12:09:00 PM · #17
Originally posted by scarbrd:

You can get a 250GB or a 320 GB in the $100 range.

Bah... $50, shipped.
12/03/2008 12:00:32 PM · #18
Originally posted by scarbrd:


I don't think it will. It seems like a user upgrade type of thing to me. The Apple site and Mac Book manual has instructions for doing it. It really is a breeze. It is easier that adding RAM and that doesn't void the warranty. You can get a 250GB or a 320 GB in the $100 range. I put a 250 GB in my white Mac Book. Almost a necessity is your run Parallels or VMWare.


Yea, I noticed that I could go up to 320GB for less than $150. I'll probably go with a 7200rpm model for performance as I never really use my current ibook unless its plugged up, so no need to worry about lower battery life. I also noticed that RAM (for white mb) is 1/2 what it is for the aluminum model with 4GB set (2x2gb) for $50 at OWC.

Message edited by author 2008-12-03 12:05:13.
12/03/2008 12:00:18 PM · #19
Originally posted by zeuszen:

Originally posted by Gordon:

...Firewire is an evolutionary dead end (watch it become the new global standard now, just to prove me wrong), so I'm not too surprised it has been dropped. USB 3.0 is 500Mbs. No real need for firewire.


FW 800 = transfer rate 786.432 Mbit/s full-duplex.


I'm sorry got my bits mixed up. USB 3.0 is 4.8Gbps the next evolution of firewire is 3.2Gbps. There's a claimed 6.4Gbps firewire proposal too.

Message edited by author 2008-12-03 12:01:30.
12/03/2008 11:56:01 AM · #20
Originally posted by Gordon:

...Firewire is an evolutionary dead end (watch it become the new global standard now, just to prove me wrong), so I'm not too surprised it has been dropped. USB 3.0 is 500Mbs. No real need for firewire.


FW 800 = transfer rate 786.432 Mbit/s full-duplex.
12/03/2008 11:45:10 AM · #21
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by hyperfocal:

I was about to pick up a new macbook today and realized that it didn't have firewire. This really freaked me out, but all but one of my external drives can be connected via USB 2.0 and I can always get a new memory card reader. Any other reason to avoid it because of no firewire? I don't do video so I'm not worried about connecting a video camera.

The USB speed on the current Macbooks is nearly on par with Firewire, but I still wouldn't buy a laptop without it. For one thing, you can start up a Mac from an external hard drive or computer over Firewire, but you can't do it with USB. Personally, I'd stick with a discontinued model or the Pro versions.


Firewire is an evolutionary dead end (watch it become the new global standard now, just to prove me wrong), so I'm not too surprised it has been dropped. USB 3.0 is 500Mbs. No real need for firewire.
12/03/2008 11:45:07 AM · #22
Originally posted by hyperfocal:

Originally posted by scalvert:


Good to know, but hardly a substitute for Target Disk Mode.


I hadn't seen that phrase in years. I remember having to buy a special cable to connect my powerbook 5300 to my power mac 7500 (SCSI not firewire). Can't really see the need now, I just transfer files over my airport extreme while I sleep. Not fast but effective.

I'd love to get the white macbook with firewire and save $300, but the 120gb internal drive is just not big enough. OWC has a video that makes the swap look simple (and I've swapped drives on a Apple mini, so I'm a pro), but I wonder if that would void the warranty?


I don't think it will. It seems like a user upgrade type of thing to me. The Apple site and Mac Book manual has instructions for doing it. It really is a breeze. It is easier that adding RAM and that doesn't void the warranty. You can get a 250GB or a 320 GB in the $100 range. I put a 250 GB in my white Mac Book. Almost a necessity is your run Parallels or VMWare.

Here's the PDF from Apple on how to install a new HD
12/03/2008 11:13:58 AM · #23
Originally posted by scalvert:


Good to know, but hardly a substitute for Target Disk Mode.


I hadn't seen that phrase in years. I remember having to buy a special cable to connect my powerbook 5300 to my power mac 7500 (SCSI not firewire). Can't really see the need now, I just transfer files over my airport extreme while I sleep. Not fast but effective.

I'd love to get the white macbook with firewire and save $300, but the 120gb internal drive is just not big enough. OWC has a video that makes the swap look simple (and I've swapped drives on a Apple mini, so I'm a pro), but I wonder if that would void the warranty?
12/03/2008 11:13:55 AM · #24
Originally posted by zeuszen:

I have six Macs in the house to troubleshoot and use Target Mode for that purpose and to transfer files frequently. I don't find it slow at all and can't imagine having to do without it.

Same here. I've used CCC and SuperDuper quite often, but for different purposes. As an example, I can hook up my laptop to my main workstation via Firewire and access the iPhoto library as if it were simply another external hard drive. I don't think you can do that with USB.

Message edited by author 2008-12-03 11:16:57.
12/03/2008 11:09:56 AM · #25
Originally posted by scarbrd:

...
I only used Target Disk mode once, and didn't care for it. Too slow mostly....


I have six Macs in the house to troubleshoot and use Target Mode for that purpose and to transfer files frequently. I don't find it slow at all and can't imagine having to do without it.
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