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07/10/2010 04:13:44 PM · #1
Great article here demonstrating why its important to read the fine print when you enter a photo contest.
//darwinwiggett.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/another-canadian-geographic-rights-grabbing-photo-contest/

In the example he points out the fine print reads

Canadian Geographic and the Forest Products Association of Canada (in regard exclusively to the “Framing the Forest” category) reserve the non-exclusive right to publish any entry and/or use any entry in its promotional material during or after the Contest without further compensation to the entrants. For FPAC, promotional material shall include without limitation any print or electronic advertising or marketing material such as posters, online images, newspaper ads, television ads, e-mails and social media content. FPAC further reserves the non-exclusive right to publish and publicly display without further compensation to the entrants any or all winning photos as part of a promotional publicity tour of the photos at a date and for a period of time to be determined by FPAC in its sole discretion.

With regard to any photo submitted to the Contest, you, or the owner of copyright in the photograph, retain all copyright. By uploading or submitting any photo to the Contest, you grant (or warrant that the owner of such materials expressly grants) Canadian Geographic Enterprises and FPAC and its affiliates and licensors a world-wide, perpetual, royalty-free, irrevocable and non-exclusive right and license to use, copy, adapt, transmit, communicate, publicly display and perform, distribute and create compilations and derivative works or merchandise from any such submitted photograph to promote the Canadian Geographic Photo Club, its photo contests or FPAC in general
.

What does this mean to you? It means even if you don't win, Canadian Geographic and its partners can use your image for whatever they want for free. Scary stuff...

Message edited by author 2010-07-10 16:14:09.
07/10/2010 07:09:37 PM · #2
Originally posted by Citadel:

Great article here demonstrating why its important to read the fine print when you enter a photo contest.
//darwinwiggett.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/another-canadian-geographic-rights-grabbing-photo-contest/

In the example he points out the fine print reads

Canadian Geographic and the Forest Products Association of Canada (in regard exclusively to the “Framing the Forest” category) reserve the non-exclusive right to publish any entry and/or use any entry in its promotional material during or after the Contest without further compensation to the entrants. For FPAC, promotional material shall include without limitation any print or electronic advertising or marketing material such as posters, online images, newspaper ads, television ads, e-mails and social media content. FPAC further reserves the non-exclusive right to publish and publicly display without further compensation to the entrants any or all winning photos as part of a promotional publicity tour of the photos at a date and for a period of time to be determined by FPAC in its sole discretion.

With regard to any photo submitted to the Contest, you, or the owner of copyright in the photograph, retain all copyright. By uploading or submitting any photo to the Contest, you grant (or warrant that the owner of such materials expressly grants) Canadian Geographic Enterprises and FPAC and its affiliates and licensors a world-wide, perpetual, royalty-free, irrevocable and non-exclusive right and license to use, copy, adapt, transmit, communicate, publicly display and perform, distribute and create compilations and derivative works or merchandise from any such submitted photograph to promote the Canadian Geographic Photo Club, its photo contests or FPAC in general
.

What does this mean to you? It means even if you don't win, Canadian Geographic and its partners can use your image for whatever they want for free. Scary stuff...


I'm not really seeing the "scary stuff" part, I guess.

They are up front about it. It's non-exclusive - you retain the copyright but grant a limited license to use the photo. So it doesn't prevent you from selling the images elsewhere. Might even help.

Many photogs consider it a small price to pay for the exposure and most would never have the opportunity to get Canadian Geographic exposure ... whether paid or not.

In most parts of the world, they've outlawed slavery - so you don't have to enter if you don't care to have your pixels shared.

Doesn't scare me - but then I'm no [fill in your favorite commercially successful photographer - Art Wolfe for example].

What am I missing?
07/10/2010 08:43:17 PM · #3
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

What am I missing?

Paranoia........8>)
07/10/2010 08:49:37 PM · #4
I agree with both first posters.

1- They get a load of (probably) very nice pictures to use for a very small price (for the number of entries they'll probably get)

2- The exposure could benefit a lot of photographers
07/10/2010 08:58:23 PM · #5
You really have to zoom in and read between the lines...

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07/10/2010 10:44:38 PM · #6
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

You really have to zoom in and read between the lines...

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WTG Art! Keeping us all grounded! :-)
07/11/2010 11:46:44 AM · #7
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

What am I missing?

Paranoia........8>)

Who said that? Why are you stalking me? What do you really want?
07/11/2010 05:42:38 PM · #8
Originally posted by merchillio:

I agree with both first posters.

1- They get a load of (probably) very nice pictures to use for a very small price (for the number of entries they'll probably get)

2- The exposure could benefit a lot of photographers


Hmm about #2...seeing that are laying claim to all and sundry as 'theirs', would they bother to credit the photogs?
07/11/2010 06:06:52 PM · #9
I don't enter when they get total use of every entry. I have no problem with them wanting a license for the winner(s), but this is just asking for everyone to donate a stock image to them. I'll (maybe) do that for a worthy charity or the governement (see thread from a few days ago), but not for a profit-making (or at least -seeking) company.
07/11/2010 06:12:42 PM · #10
and keep in mind their partners get access to the images too. AND they don't pay you. So your image could end up on a poster for Forest Products of Canada.
So you are essentially giving them and their partners free stock photos.

And in the link to his previous rant ( //darwinwiggett.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/heritage-treasures-of-parks-canada-photography-contest/ ) it mentions a previous Canadian Geographic contest where you actually hand over the copyright to them (if you win though).

Again, its not to say its not worthwhile at all but you have to go in with your head up and make sure that you read the fine print. If you are ok with donating an image to them for free then by all means go for it.
07/11/2010 06:26:11 PM · #11
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

You really have to zoom in and read between the lines...

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07/12/2010 01:42:15 PM · #12
6.2 You hereby grant DPChallenge.com a nonexclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any rights you have in the Member Information and Media, and otherwise to make use of the Member Information and Media (including publishing, disseminating, broadcasting, manipulating, reproducing, editing, translating, performing, modifying, or displaying any part of the Member Information) and/or Media alone or as part of other work in any form, media, or technology whether now new known or hereafter developed, to enable DPChallenge.com to continue the specific operation or marketing of the site. This includes, but is certainly not limited to email "newsletters."

From the user agreement on this site...does "media" constitute pictures?
07/12/2010 01:47:45 PM · #13
Originally posted by Damaso:

From the user agreement on this site...does "media" constitute pictures?

Yes, but this phrase in the section you quoted is what makes a huge difference:

"... to enable DPChallenge.com to continue the specific operation or marketing of the site."

DPC's right to use your photos is limited to promoting the DPC site and its functions. The rights claimed in the contest referred-to by the OP are essentially unlimited.
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