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08/14/2010 11:58:31 AM · #101
Originally posted by h2:

Originally posted by posthumous:



Considered by whom? It's actually a painting genre. Does anyone really consider it a significant genre of photography?

Read a good book.
Or see some pictures.


So far, you're only confirming my opinion. Notice the lack of anthologies/collections/museum catalogs under your book link. In your pictures link, the examples are simply playing off the painting term. There is no sense here of an established genre. Do the same searches for "Portrait Photography"
08/14/2010 12:03:44 PM · #102
Originally posted by DCNUTTER:

To each their own, but let's not dilute the true meaning of what a Still Life is just for the sake of making the challenge easier.


That's not why I'm diluting the true meaning. I'm diluting the true meaning of the genre in order not to interfere with the artistic process. Some people are builders and some are listeners. As I've said before, the concept of "still life" requires translation into photography. That translation requires creativity and thoughtfulness. Trying to second guess and redirect creativity will lead you into an abyss of deafening dullness.
08/14/2010 12:05:31 PM · #103
Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by h2:

Originally posted by posthumous:



Considered by whom? It's actually a painting genre. Does anyone really consider it a significant genre of photography?

Read a good book.
Or see some pictures.


So far, you're only confirming my opinion. Notice the lack of anthologies/collections/museum catalogs under your book link. In your pictures link, the examples are simply playing off the painting term. There is no sense here of an established genre. Do the same searches for "Portrait Photography"


True, Portrait Photography is overrated.
08/14/2010 12:06:40 PM · #104
Originally posted by posthumous:

Trying to second guess and redirect creativity will lead you into an abyss of deafening dullness.


I think that's what I just might have acheived this go round.

Message edited by author 2010-08-14 12:07:02.
08/14/2010 12:58:17 PM · #105
Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by h2:

Originally posted by posthumous:



Considered by whom? It's actually a painting genre. Does anyone really consider it a significant genre of photography?

Read a good book.
Or see some pictures.


So far, you're only confirming my opinion. Notice the lack of anthologies/collections/museum catalogs under your book link. In your pictures link, the examples are simply playing off the painting term. There is no sense here of an established genre. Do the same searches for "Portrait Photography"


or a search with "Still Life Art"
08/14/2010 01:00:29 PM · #106
Originally posted by bvy:

Originally posted by bspurgeon:

Originally posted by bvy:

I'll ask again. Does a still life have to be formally composed? Can it be "found"?


Is that what you mean by decomposed?


Such life is the stillest of all, right?


As long is it's not well arranged pieces of yourself!
08/14/2010 01:03:55 PM · #107
O "abyss
of deafening dullness,"
I feel a pome,
a clangorous kitsch.
08/14/2010 01:42:08 PM · #108
Originally posted by tnun:

O "abyss
of deafening dullness,"
I feel a pome,
a clangorous kitsch.


I want a Kitsch Challenge! I mean, one that's actually called that.
08/14/2010 03:23:54 PM · #109
Don't tell no body but I kitsched Magdalene
08/14/2010 11:26:07 PM · #110
I can't wait for the voting starts. So, here is my test votes.

*** TESTING, TESTING 1, 2, 3... ***

Votes: 364
Views: 13526
Avg Vote: 8.836
Comments: 450
Favorites: 564
Wish Lists: 902

*** END OF TESTING ***
08/14/2010 11:45:10 PM · #111
In still life photography, point is to combine objects to tell a story and be creative with the lights. There are no rules for candle lights, human body, any animals (standing) etc. It is very important to know that as long as your photo has no blurry portion to indicate something is moving, it is just fine.
08/14/2010 11:48:09 PM · #112
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

In still life photography, point is to combine objects to tell a story and be creative with the lights. There are no rules for candle lights, human body, any animals (standing) etc. It is very important to know that as long as your photo has no blurry portion to indicate something is moving, it is just fine.


What if it's just blurry cause you suck at getting focus?
08/14/2010 11:50:09 PM · #113
The more I look at mine, the more I think I need to reshoot. But, I ate my props.
08/14/2010 11:50:16 PM · #114
mommy kitsched santa. i think. it was blurry still.
08/15/2010 12:03:07 AM · #115
Originally posted by Kelli:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

In still life photography, point is to combine objects to tell a story and be creative with the lights. There are no rules for candle lights, human body, any animals (standing) etc. It is very important to know that as long as your photo has no blurry portion to indicate something is moving, it is just fine.


What if it's just blurry cause you suck at getting focus?


You might want to try some USM (unsharp mask) to see if you can get some sharpness back.

And I have to say this has been most challenging. It is a heck of alot easier looking at all the still lifes in past DPC challenges and googling images but when it comes to arranging objects in a pleasing manner oneself - ugh!

Message edited by author 2010-08-15 00:05:10.
08/15/2010 12:06:03 AM · #116
I know all there is to know
about the trying game
08/15/2010 12:18:38 AM · #117
I think people here kind of scared of "still life challenge", me too. I really hate to see another grapes, apples and bananas hanging from a fruit-cup, with a wine bottle next to it... however, this exactly what could be the winner and/or the winners of this challenge. The last winners of still life challenge had pretty good creativity though. So, who knows what's gonna happen. I say go for it, and surprise yourself :P
08/15/2010 03:26:23 AM · #118
Ok, I'm in, and I managed to avoid doing fruit, flowers, or wine glasses. Most likely that will hurt my score.
08/15/2010 10:00:04 AM · #119
We probably will have outtakes but just to give you an idea, this is what I was thinking (no more though) which could be subject to our discussion before the challenge.

Is this still life? I would think this photo would not go more than 5+ (mid)

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08/15/2010 11:26:53 AM · #120
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

We probably will have outtakes but just to give you an idea, this is what I was thinking (no more though) which could be subject to our discussion before the challenge.

Is this still life? I would think this photo would not go more than 5+ (mid)

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It looks like an attempt was made to create something that might have occurred "naturally," i.e., someone is reading a book by candlelight (bad idea) and gets called away, so puts his glasses down on the book. This is bad form for still life, which should feel as if it's arranged to create a beautiful composition, i.e., art for art's sake. As bear has mentioned, you can use symbolism, but that needs to be something much more sophisticated than a pair of glasses on a book.

But technically, yes, it is a still life. You have met the challenge. NO ONE FOR YOU.

mwahahhahahahaha
08/15/2010 11:59:35 AM · #121
Originally posted by posthumous:

...It looks like an attempt was made to create something that might have occurred "naturally,"...

That is correct, as in theaters.

Originally posted by posthumous:


i.e., someone is reading a book by candlelight (bad idea)...

I have red books many times in one candle light. I never needed a glasses until now, which age gets me after this hour.

Originally posted by posthumous:

... it's arranged to create a beautiful composition, i.e., art for art's sake.

With this photo, in a classical way.

Originally posted by posthumous:


As bear has mentioned, you can use symbolism, but that needs to be something much more sophisticated than a pair of glasses on a book.

I don't think you need sophistication in still life, it depends what kind of view you're trying to project.

Originally posted by posthumous:


But technically, yes, it is a still life. You have met the challenge. NO ONE FOR YOU.

So, I have a chance between 2 and 10... great!

Originally posted by posthumous:


mwahahhahahahaha


"mwahahhahahahaha" back to you... and THANK you for your comment :-)
08/15/2010 12:04:08 PM · #122
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Ok, I'm in, and I managed to avoid doing fruit, flowers, or wine glasses. Most likely that will hurt my score.


ditto! my subject also turned out to be deceptively heavy so any thoughts of composition went out the window as soon as I lifted it. I pretty much staggered to my light source and slammed it down. Ooh boy..
08/15/2010 01:38:35 PM · #123
Ok, I uploaded something very simple, a bit creativity, but nothing major. My hope with this one, around upper 5 maybe 6. I will turn on the vote thingy on tonight right after the challenge starts, so, we all know how good of a "Still Life"er I am HAH!...
08/15/2010 02:39:21 PM · #124
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08/15/2010 02:46:42 PM · #125
Originally posted by SEG:

Nothing is always black and white...


Well it better be for this challenge! ROFL!

edit for typo

Message edited by author 2010-08-15 14:47:29.
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