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10/21/2010 02:02:56 PM · #1
So I'm trying to figure out the best way of working with my RAW files. I like the noise reduction in Canon's DPP, but it takes so long to transfer to photoshop, and it comes over as a tiff. Yet the photos load fast than they do in bridge. But in Bridge, before opening in the raw editor, you can view the photos full size and look through them and rate, keyword, whatever before working with the file.

So what do you do? Canon DPP? Photoshop's Raw editor? What do you use to preview your files while deciding which ones to keep/trash?
10/21/2010 02:10:30 PM · #2
I shoot RAW + Small JPG, so I can preview using Explorer (jpgs) and Edit in Photoshop (RAW)

I use Noise Ninja to reduce noise if necessary.
10/21/2010 02:14:05 PM · #3
I used Canon DPP for awhile but now use bridge instead. With bridge I can view and trash as I go.
10/21/2010 02:29:20 PM · #4
Originally posted by kleski:

I used Canon DPP for awhile but now use bridge instead. With bridge I can view and trash as I go.


Yes, I like that feature, since I take way too many photos. However bridge is awfully slow on my computer.
10/21/2010 02:31:14 PM · #5
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by kleski:

I used Canon DPP for awhile but now use bridge instead. With bridge I can view and trash as I go.


Yes, I like that feature, since I take way too many photos. However bridge is awfully slow on my computer.


Then you need a faster computer. Bridge isn't even CLOSE to slow on my machine, and it's nothing special.

R.
10/21/2010 02:32:50 PM · #6
I use DPP's "Edit image window" (select all files, press button) to preview and select images.
For images I want to delete I set 'check mark 3', images that are INCREDIBLE(!) I set 'check mark 1' (alt-3, alt-1).

When I'm done with all the images I use Edit -> 'Select check mark3 images only' and press delete :).

I do post-processing in CS4, using Noiseware Pro when necessary.
10/21/2010 02:34:56 PM · #7
I like IrfanView it's pretty nice, and very quick. (with admittedly odd controls, like ctrl-H to make 1:1 and F5 to fit to screen)

Then I use PS's RAW converter to open into PS.

The usually my first editing step is to make a new layer, and run Topaz De-Noise 5 on that layer.
10/21/2010 02:45:50 PM · #8
Do you find that using the noise reduction in DPP reduces image sharpness? I especially see this on portraits. The eyes especially lose sharpness, but I like what it does to skin. What do you all do to keep from losing image sharpness with noise reduction?

Edited to add: I think this just answered my question...

Originally posted by coryboehne:

I like IrfanView it's pretty nice, and very quick. (with admittedly odd controls, like ctrl-H to make 1:1 and F5 to fit to screen)

Then I use PS's RAW converter to open into PS.

The usually my first editing step is to make a new layer, and run Topaz De-Noise 5 on that layer.


Message edited by author 2010-10-21 14:47:09.
10/21/2010 02:51:43 PM · #9
Originally posted by kleski:

... use bridge instead. With bridge I can view and trash as I go.

Same here. Also, I can open bunches of files simultaneously into RAW editor, which is handy when I use the same white balance adjustment and want the same look for the set.
10/21/2010 03:00:54 PM · #10
I use DPP as well. I initially put myu images in a temp folder, and review them from DPP. Rather thanuse the rating buttons, the ones I think are keepers get immediately moved to a permanent folder. One nice thing is that DPP integrates with Windows file manager. If I drag the file from the DPP thumbnail window to anopther folder it moves or copies just as it would from a file manager window. When I make my adjustments in DPP, I export as a TIF or JPG and then do the rest of the editing in PaintShop Pro.
10/21/2010 03:03:14 PM · #11
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by kleski:

... use bridge instead. With bridge I can view and trash as I go.

Same here. Also, I can open bunches of files simultaneously into RAW editor, which is handy when I use the same white balance adjustment and want the same look for the set.


DPP allows you to adjust a shot for contrast, sharpness, tone, curves, white balance, adjust to monochrome, etc. and apply that to a set of your choice.
10/21/2010 03:16:51 PM · #12
Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by kleski:

... use bridge instead. With bridge I can view and trash as I go.

Same here. Also, I can open bunches of files simultaneously into RAW editor, which is handy when I use the same white balance adjustment and want the same look for the set.


DPP allows you to adjust a shot for contrast, sharpness, tone, curves, white balance, adjust to monochrome, etc. and apply that to a set of your choice.

DPP is for girls.
10/21/2010 03:20:03 PM · #13
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

DPP is for girls.

Always the pot-stirrer, eh, Slippy? Actually, DPP is for cheapskates such as myself who don't like paying the Adobe tax.

Besides, the only way you can truly be a macho photographer is to use a view camera with wet plates and all the stuff you have to drag around to support it. That's how REAL men do it.

Message edited by author 2010-10-21 15:23:30.
10/21/2010 03:25:20 PM · #14
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

DPP is for girls.

Always the pot-stirrer, eh, Slippy? Actually, DPP is for cheapskates such as myself who don't like paying the Adobe tax.

Besides, the only way you can truly be a macho photographer is to use a view camera with wet plates and all the stuff you have to drag around to support it. That's how REAL men do it.

Hey, don't get your panties in a bunch. ;-D
10/21/2010 03:45:26 PM · #15
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Hey, don't get your panties in a bunch. ;-D

They're beyond bunched up. They are actually kinda wedged and stuck now. That's the last time I wear a thong to the forums!
10/21/2010 03:58:09 PM · #16
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Hey, don't get your panties in a bunch. ;-D

They're beyond bunched up. They are actually kinda wedged and stuck now. That's the last time I wear a thong to the forums!

*rubbing brain with sandpaper*
10/21/2010 05:21:44 PM · #17
I have never used DPP other than to experiment with it. Yes, Bridge used to be pretty slow on the hardware of the day, but should be relatively quick on modern hardware. But *any* RAW software is going to take a little time to render images at full resolution, even Lr (Lightroom) running on a modern, 64-bit machine takes a perceptible moment to render.
IMO, the Adobe Raw Converter (ACR) engine used in Ps Bridge and Lr is the gold standard in functionality, and is first-class with respect to NR. I strongly recommend Lr as a workflow tool for import, sort, keyword, and RAW conversion.
10/21/2010 05:59:27 PM · #18
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Hey, don't get your panties in a bunch. ;-D

They're beyond bunched up. They are actually kinda wedged and stuck now. That's the last time I wear a thong to the forums!

*rubbing brain with sandpaper*


I really need to find Art's popcorn guy icon...
10/21/2010 06:04:31 PM · #19
Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Hey, don't get your panties in a bunch. ;-D

They're beyond bunched up. They are actually kinda wedged and stuck now. That's the last time I wear a thong to the forums!

*rubbing brain with sandpaper*


I really need to find Art's popcorn guy icon...


How about this one?

' . substr('//images.whatport80.com/images/6/6d/CostanzaPopcorn.gif', strrpos('//images.whatport80.com/images/6/6d/CostanzaPopcorn.gif', '/') + 1) . '

Enjoy!

Or this, smaller one:

' . substr('//images.whatport80.com/images/b/b3/Popcorndrink.gif', strrpos('//images.whatport80.com/images/b/b3/Popcorndrink.gif', '/') + 1) . '

Or this one:

' . substr('//images.whatport80.com/images/6/6d/Twopopcorn.gif', strrpos('//images.whatport80.com/images/6/6d/Twopopcorn.gif', '/') + 1) . '

R.

Message edited by author 2010-10-21 18:06:43.
10/21/2010 06:20:10 PM · #20
Thanks Bear, I think I'll go with:

' . substr('//images.whatport80.com/images/b/b3/Popcorndrink.gif', strrpos('//images.whatport80.com/images/b/b3/Popcorndrink.gif', '/') + 1) . '
10/21/2010 06:24:38 PM · #21
Originally posted by coryboehne:

Thanks Bear, I think I'll go with:

' . substr('//images.whatport80.com/images/b/b3/Popcorndrink.gif', strrpos('//images.whatport80.com/images/b/b3/Popcorndrink.gif', '/') + 1) . '


A good choice.

R.
10/21/2010 07:15:30 PM · #22
Another thread successfully derailed. Everyone give themselves a big pat on the back.
10/21/2010 07:17:43 PM · #23
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by kleski:

... use bridge instead. With bridge I can view and trash as I go.

Same here. Also, I can open bunches of files simultaneously into RAW editor, which is handy when I use the same white balance adjustment and want the same look for the set.


DPP allows you to adjust a shot for contrast, sharpness, tone, curves, white balance, adjust to monochrome, etc. and apply that to a set of your choice.

DPP is for girls.


then it's perfect for me!
10/21/2010 07:22:11 PM · #24
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Another thread successfully derailed. Everyone give themselves a big pat on the back.


Oh oh oh! Can we flagellate ourselves instead?
10/21/2010 07:57:51 PM · #25
Originally posted by coryboehne:

Oh oh oh! Can we flagellate ourselves instead?

If you like, but you'll have to supply your own thong.
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