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10/21/2010 08:32:37 PM · #26
Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Hey, don't get your panties in a bunch. ;-D

They're beyond bunched up. They are actually kinda wedged and stuck now. That's the last time I wear a thong to the forums!

*rubbing brain with sandpaper*


I really need to find Art's popcorn guy icon...

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Not now...I'm eating popcorn!!! :P
02/21/2011 05:44:09 PM · #27
FYI Wendy...the latest version of Canon DPP v3.9 has added a "checks and star" system that is fully compatible with Adobe Lightroom and Adobe Bridge. In other words if you rate the photos in DPP the ratings will also be seen in the other apps....nice.

Canon also added a new unsharp mask sharping option in addition to the standard sharpening method.

One thing I love about DPP is based on how you customized the camera shooting profiles the software reads that info so the RAW files actually look more like the jpeg files to start with. For instance if you shot a photo using the portrait profile on your camera which you also happened to tweak by bumping up the contrast, sharpening etc. and you open that RAW file in Lightroom or Adobe Camera RAW you would not see the same image results because Those apps default to a camera profile of Adobe Standard and whatever default settings you have. It uses the camera profile from the vendor BUT any in camera adjustments you made are lost unless you import a custom profile that you made created using Canon Picture Style Editor. When you open that same file in DPP it retains all those tweaks you made in sharpness, contrast etc. and the photos look much better to start with.

I also like the noise reduction for RAW in DPP because it applies it specific to the camera sensor you are using, and of course you can also adjust later on using something like DeNoise in Photoshop later on. I find that I really don't need to do that very often though. There is definitely something to be said by using the vendor RAW converters over the more one size fits all commercial versions. You can do all the major stuff. Of course Lightroom and Adobe Camera RAW have some bells and whistles that you won't find in the vendor software such as vibrance and clarity adjustments etc., but they can be altered later on, and I've found that my RAW images look much better and cleaner to start with after I bring them into Photoshop when I use DPP.

Not sure about why your files get imported as TIFFs. I normally don't import my files through sofware, but it seems like there should be an option to leave them as untouched .CR2 files. The way I do it is I open the .CR2 file directly into the editor, make any minor adjustments and then use the menu up top to pass the file to Photoshop. I don't convert anything and save it. I edit my changes in PHotoshop and save that as a separate PSD (layered) TIFF (16 bit Flattened fullsize), a full size jpeg, a midsize jpeg (usually 300ppi and 1080px on the longest side) and then a websized jpeg (usually 72 to 180ppi with 800px on the longest side). Then I close that file in Photoshop and go back to my DPP editor and save the adjusted RAW file as a new file with the tag "edited" on the end. I don't overwrite the changes to the original even though they can be reset. Just how I do it.

I agree with Bear...Bridge doesn't run slow on my computer either. What are you computer specs?

Anyway, I really just wanted you and others to be aware that the latest version of Canon DPP has some new features and what I liked about it. For the record I do also use Lightroom and Adobe Camera RAW, but I'm becoming more and more convinced that the images are of better quality to start my work in the 16 bit TIFF format when they get pulled into Photoshop.

I updated all my Canon software last night (EOS Utility, DPP, Picture Style Editor and Zoom Browser)

Dave

Message edited by author 2011-02-21 17:46:42.
02/21/2011 06:22:32 PM · #28
Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by kleski:

... use bridge instead. With bridge I can view and trash as I go.

Same here. Also, I can open bunches of files simultaneously into RAW editor, which is handy when I use the same white balance adjustment and want the same look for the set.


DPP allows you to adjust a shot for contrast, sharpness, tone, curves, white balance, adjust to monochrome, etc. and apply that to a set of your choice.


Exactly. Works much the same as any of the other apps. You make adjustments on one file, and then you can apply that recipe to select files of your choice.
02/21/2011 08:42:35 PM · #29
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02/21/2011 09:32:06 PM · #30
Originally posted by EL-ROI:

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I agree...it was a really nice update, and not just the addition of new camera functionality. One thing that I didn't mention in my early posts is that I love how fast it loads without the bloat of other commercial products trying to be more than they need to be. It is what it is..a nice RAW editor custom to the camera vendor that has more power under the hood than most people realize.

Glad you're happy with the new features!

Dave
02/21/2011 09:56:52 PM · #31
That reminds me of another thing I like about DPP and it's ability to retain camera specific shooting information.

When you shoot an exposure in B&W, you always get the B&W jpeg file if you have your camera set to shoot RAW+jpg, but when the RAW file is loaded into Adobe Camera RAW and the like it will retain it's color data and display that. This forces you to do a grayscale conversion in the RAW editor and trying to duplicate the same lighting and feel is hit and miss.

With DPP you open the RAW file and presto...it's B&W because it retains the camera photo profile settings from your camera and looks like it did when you shot. Naturally you can always bring the color data into play by selecting another profile other than monochrome. With monochrome you also have the option to choose the color filter as you do in camera. I really don't know why Adobe hasn't included these features along with the very basic profiles. Yes, there are a lot of cameras out there, but coming up with a standard feature grid based on camera make shouldn't be that hard. If they can include the basic profile info of each camera adding in monochrome profile settings should take little effort.

Dave
02/22/2011 02:33:50 AM · #32
I like DPP for RAW files. Does a nice job and you can open a few in the edit screen and then copy what you did to all of them. Wish it had a few more tools - straighten would be nice.
02/22/2011 09:12:11 AM · #33
Originally posted by RamblinR:

Wish it had a few more tools - straighten would be nice.

It does have it. Go to the tools menu and select "trimming/angle adjustment tool". I do my tilt corrections in PaintShop Pro, however, as I find it's tool for that to be more accurate.
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