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03/02/2011 12:06:30 PM · #1
When I started shooting digital 800ISO and direct flash was how you dealt with dark gyms. As technology and experience came along I moved up in camera bodies, fast glass came too. Then I started using strobist techniques to light some of my darkest gyms and still produce great images for the newspaper and for clients. Well I have one gym that no matter what I've done I had to shoot at 8000ISO and F2 or strobe it. So last night I went on an assignment for the paper. NJCAA woman's basketball quarterfinals.

It's been a hectic week for me, my boss's wife was hit head on by a drunk driver going southbound in the northbound lanes, so I have been filling in his shoes and doing my job too. I had my camera bag and lighting bag set out for myself when I got home from the day job(yeah I have one of those too!) I had a quick shower, a quick sandwich and headed out to the gym. Got to the college and grabbed my bag(singular) out of the back of the car. Reach back in for my lighting bag and it wasn't there. Texted the wife and asked if it was sitting next to my desk, sure enough it was.....Look in the camera bag fastest lens I have is a 70-200MM F2.8. Well game is starting in 20 minutes so no time to run home, I head in and crank up the ISO on the D3s hit a custom White balance with the expodisk. figure where the slowest shutter speed I am comfortable with at this level of competition and hit the sideline. End of the night I head home and download the camera. Never having shot at 12,800 ISO before with this new system I didn't know what to expect. Pleasantly surprised with the results.

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This is about 60% of the original file and resized only. I don't think I'll drag the speedlights to this gym anymore. :D

Isn't technology great?
03/02/2011 12:11:33 PM · #2
It's always nice to discover that you can get the results you want without having to tote a load of stuff around to do it.
The D7000 and VR glass that I am using now makes my shooting a lot easier, and the photos are a lot better too.
03/02/2011 12:14:43 PM · #3
This is amazing for this amount of ISO, i've never dared go beyond 3200. If the new d700 replacement is as good as this when it comes out i shall be sorely tempted to upgrade.
03/02/2011 12:16:24 PM · #4
Very nice Matt! Changes the whole game for you now seeing those results I imagine.

BTW - Weren't you shooting Canon not too long ago?
03/02/2011 12:20:06 PM · #5
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Very nice Matt! Changes the whole game for you now seeing those results I imagine.

BTW - Weren't you shooting Canon not too long ago?


I sold all of my Canon stuff and moved to Nikon end of January I think it was. Still learning the ins and outs of the system and where it's limits are or aren't. So far I've been a happy camper.

03/02/2011 12:29:15 PM · #6
Makes me weep
03/02/2011 12:47:04 PM · #7
Originally posted by coryboehne:

Makes me weep


Me too, because I have about $1000 in speedlights and another $600 in Alien bee strobes that will sit most of the time I'm not doing portrait work. :D

Matt
03/02/2011 12:51:20 PM · #8
Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Makes me weep


Me too, because I have about $1000 in speedlights and another $600 in Alien bee strobes that will sit most of the time I'm not doing portrait work. :D

Matt


Well, since you won't be needing them, I'm not too far off if you need someone to "store" them for you :)
03/02/2011 12:54:09 PM · #9
It really is amazing where we are today vs. even 5 years ago. I suspect that further progress will be slower, and we're not that far away from the limits of physics with regard to noise - there are only so many photons available to count!
Still, I do think we will reflect on progress in image quality in another 5 years and say "wow!" again.
03/02/2011 01:20:04 PM · #10
Originally posted by kirbic:

It really is amazing where we are today vs. even 5 years ago. I suspect that further progress will be slower, and we're not that far away from the limits of physics with regard to noise - there are only so many photons available to count!
Still, I do think we will reflect on progress in image quality in another 5 years and say "wow!" again.


I started with the paper in 2006 using an Olympus E-1 and F2.8 glass, moved to Canon with a 30D and then moved up to 1 series cameras not too long after. Every generation of cameras has made my job as a sports photographer a bit easier. Now I'm wondering if it's just making me lazy. LOL
03/02/2011 06:09:49 PM · #11
800 is the upper limit for me, and kinda pushing it in low light. I need a new camera...

Message edited by author 2011-03-02 18:10:00.
03/02/2011 06:36:19 PM · #12
i was shooting in my house the other night in a dark living room under one 60watt equivalent fluorescent bulb at 3200 iso and a 50 f1.8, the pictures came out amazing, very minor noise.

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03/12/2011 01:49:19 PM · #13
I shot at ISO 3200 in a nightclub I just got a job at and was BLOWN away. Couldn't believe the difference between my 5Dmkii and my old 20D.
03/12/2011 07:00:57 PM · #14
I was doing some low light AF testing after updating the firmware a couple of days ago.

Just a resize for web, (NR would clean it up nicely if it was worth keeping), at ISO20000 and 77mm f1.8. In terms of noise it's about a stop behind the current FF bodies but with a fair trade off in price.

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03/12/2011 08:07:53 PM · #15
Originally posted by sir_bazz:

I was doing some low light AF testing after updating the firmware a couple of days ago.

Just a resize for web, (NR would clean it up nicely if it was worth keeping), at ISO20000 and 77mm f1.8. In terms of noise it's about a stop behind the current FF bodies but with a fair trade off in price.

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This looks a lot like the ISO400 film I have taken to shooting with recently (except it's in colour, Ilford HP5+). We are truly spoiled with digital!

Message edited by author 2011-03-12 20:08:37.
03/12/2011 09:37:56 PM · #16
I've been ecstatic with my move from my D200 which was *terrible* at 800 ISO to my D7000.

Case in point......7+ & a blue....

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1000 ISO...
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