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03/17/2011 05:24:41 AM · #51
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Originally posted by RayEthier:

... I don't think I saw anything remotely close to a ten....


You are kidding right?


I very much doubt it, that wouldn't be like Ray.

R.


' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Bear_Music<<<<<<<< Nailed it... To be fair, I have not studied any of the images nor voted yet. I might be surprised.

Ray
03/17/2011 01:40:46 PM · #52
If this is the best DPC can do in a challenge like this, maybe it's best I let my subscription expire.

Immensely underwhelmed.
03/17/2011 02:52:08 PM · #53
Originally posted by K10DGuy:

If this is the best DPC can do in a challenge like this, maybe it's best I let my subscription expire.

Immensely underwhelmed.


i was overwhelmed by the quality of the entries in this challenge, so much so i was really glad i didn't enter, i wouldn't have stood a chance, just goes to show how everything is subjective.
03/17/2011 02:58:05 PM · #54
Originally posted by jagar:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

If this is the best DPC can do in a challenge like this, maybe it's best I let my subscription expire.

Immensely underwhelmed.


i was overwhelmed by the quality of the entries in this challenge, so much so i was really glad i didn't enter, i wouldn't have stood a chance, just goes to show how everything is subjective.


yes you're right!! even the master, librodo, himself has an entry in his own tribute challenge... and i think, i knew which entry is his..

Message edited by author 2011-03-17 14:58:28.
03/17/2011 03:04:35 PM · #55
Originally posted by K10DGuy:

If this is the best DPC can do in a challenge like this, maybe it's best I let my subscription expire.

Immensely underwhelmed.


Considering you haven't participated in a challenge in 9 months and only seem to add negativity in the forums maybe it isn't a bad idea for you to do that.
03/17/2011 03:11:44 PM · #56
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

If this is the best DPC can do in a challenge like this, maybe it's best I let my subscription expire.

Immensely underwhelmed.


Considering you haven't participated in a challenge in 9 months and only seem to add negativity in the forums maybe it isn't a bad idea for you to do that.


Does Roger Ebert make movies?


03/17/2011 03:13:39 PM · #57
I'm not entered in this challenge. However, rather than expect the "best", I view this more as a Learning challenge. An attempt to duplicate or mimic a style, look, feel of someone with a firmly established set of those things.

Various things can be learned:

_how difficult the technique can be
_how it can really be a lot more about the oringinal photographer, his vision, his selection of what goes in front of his camera, etc. than any particular set of exposure or post processing techniques
_how good at his particular genre the original actually is (the "aw, I could do that!" becomes "this is not as easy as I thought")
_how, whether one can succeed in the mimicry or not, one probably is not going to change their photographic vision and commit to copying the original from now on
_how the attempt gave one a few new tools in the tool box that can be applied to one's own personal imagery/taste/vision
_how some of the things learned are not to one's taste, not part of a personal vision

Personally, I found several images to be excellent. Most of my favorites were "scarf-less" however.

I suspect that every entrant learned at least one or two things.

Message edited by author 2011-03-17 15:40:36.
03/17/2011 03:15:41 PM · #58
Originally posted by K10DGuy:


Does Roger Ebert make movies?


Well going that route it looks like you haven't made a comment on an image since November and less then 5,000 votes cast in over two years. If Ebert critiqued movies like you participate here he would be out of a job.
03/17/2011 03:20:34 PM · #59
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

If this is the best DPC can do in a challenge like this, maybe it's best I let my subscription expire.

Immensely underwhelmed.


Considering you haven't participated in a challenge in 9 months and only seem to add negativity in the forums maybe it isn't a bad idea for you to do that.


Let's not forget that in the real world, most consumers/viewers of imagery are not even photographers at all. If the images don't successfully reach a viewer, it is irrelevant whether they are a photographer, or entered in the challenge, or entering challenges at all. It is even possible (probable?) that such viewers are more objective.

If I went into a gallery or museum with this number of similar images on the wall, I likely wouldn't stay, but if I did, it would become easy to saturated by this look/feel/motif very quickly, and I could easily overlook a few gems accidentally camouflaged by all the similarity.

As I said earlier, I think of a challenge like this to be of the greatest value & interest to those specifically with skin in the game.

ETA: measuring someone by their number of challenge entries, the frequency and most recent dates of entries, and the number of votes and comments is fundamentally flawed, and attempting to devalue their opinion because of those stats is, well, sad. (and participation on this site is not a paying job, though many of us like wish we could be paid by the post :-)

Message edited by author 2011-03-17 15:24:39.
03/17/2011 03:27:21 PM · #60
Originally posted by K10DGuy:

If this is the best DPC can do in a challenge like this, maybe it's best I let my subscription expire.

Immensely underwhelmed.


I have a much lower average given than you and I gave out six 10s. Including one for one of the best portraits I've ever seen.
03/17/2011 03:36:18 PM · #61
why does there have to be so much negativity on something that is here to help us learn. Stop with the drama, it only makes things worse. :(
03/17/2011 03:41:31 PM · #62
Originally posted by K10DGuy:

If this is the best DPC can do in a challenge like this, maybe it's best I let my subscription expire.

Immensely underwhelmed.


What was the point in that comment? This isn't a site just for professionals - it's for everyone so people can learn, improve, and gain feedback on their images they've tried hard to produce. By no means do I think I'm better than anyone here but if you want to patronise the people who make this site work then let it expire.
03/17/2011 04:12:11 PM · #63
Originally posted by chromeydome:



ETA: measuring someone by their number of challenge entries, the frequency and most recent dates of entries, and the number of votes and comments is fundamentally flawed, and attempting to devalue their opinion because of those stats is, well, sad. (and participation on this site is not a paying job, though many of us like wish we could be paid by the post :-)


I wan't attempting to devalue his opinion, the only reason I made my comment is from he stating that he might as well let his membership expire due to a lack of images that he finds appealing. If he doesn't seem interested in entering challenges, doesn't vote much and comments so infrequently then why be a paying member. He is free to do as he wishes I was just saying he might as well let his membership elapse as what he does on this site is easily done as a registered user.
03/17/2011 04:20:58 PM · #64
I found the submissions well above average on this challenge, I ended up giving a full point higher than my average score, with a score of real standouts and only a very few below average (which is 5.5 according to my math).

My one disappointment was an emphasis on subject matter (pretty faces with scarves) as opposed to technique. Manny's recent posts go away from his best known stuff he has posted on the site, but his look is/was so distinctive; raking light to bring out facial contours with solid bounce fill to keep everything soft, bright saturated colors, and sharp details brought out by a USM technique so distinctive others have named the process after him "The Manny Librodo Sharpening Technique". If you don't know this method, please read the link. It is a great method, especially for this sort of portrait.

I do love these "in the style of" challenges just to make us really stretch to try different ways of seeing and processing.
03/17/2011 05:13:55 PM · #65
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:



I wan't attempting to devalue his opinion, the only reason I made my comment is from he stating that he might as well let his membership expire due to a lack of images that he finds appealing. If he doesn't seem interested in entering challenges, doesn't vote much and comments so infrequently then why be a paying member. He is free to do as he wishes I was just saying he might as well let his membership elapse as what he does on this site is easily done as a registered user.


Well, he is a registered user...

Message edited by author 2011-03-17 17:16:13.
03/17/2011 05:39:21 PM · #66
Originally posted by Sevlow:

Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:



I wan't attempting to devalue his opinion, the only reason I made my comment is from he stating that he might as well let his membership expire due to a lack of images that he finds appealing. If he doesn't seem interested in entering challenges, doesn't vote much and comments so infrequently then why be a paying member. He is free to do as he wishes I was just saying he might as well let his membership elapse as what he does on this site is easily done as a registered user.


Well, he is a registered user...


D'oh, i didn't even pay attention to that. I didn't think you had to renew when you were just a registered user.
03/17/2011 11:20:28 PM · #67
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:

... He is free to do as he wishes I was just saying he might as well let his membership elapse as what he does on this site is easily done as a registered user.


Issue already covered :O)

Ray

Message edited by author 2011-03-17 23:21:39.
03/17/2011 11:34:45 PM · #68
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:

Originally posted by Sevlow:

Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:



I wan't attempting to devalue his opinion, the only reason I made my comment is from he stating that he might as well let his membership expire due to a lack of images that he finds appealing. If he doesn't seem interested in entering challenges, doesn't vote much and comments so infrequently then why be a paying member. He is free to do as he wishes I was just saying he might as well let his membership elapse as what he does on this site is easily done as a registered user.


Well, he is a registered user...


D'oh, i didn't even pay attention to that. I didn't think you had to renew when you were just a registered user.


You're just misreading my original post. I was being thankful that I had ALREADY let it lapse.
Well, not thankful really. It was a bit of hyperbole.
03/18/2011 07:21:26 AM · #69
Originally posted by K10DGuy:

You're just misreading my original post. I was being thankful that I had ALREADY let it lapse.
Well, not thankful really. It was a bit of hyperbole.


Sorry about that. Looking at your favorite photos on your page I can see why you were underwhelmed by the Librodo challenge.
03/18/2011 12:28:57 PM · #70
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

You're just misreading my original post. I was being thankful that I had ALREADY let it lapse.
Well, not thankful really. It was a bit of hyperbole.


Sorry about that. Looking at your favorite photos on your page I can see why you were underwhelmed by the Librodo challenge.


Hrm. Hardly an accurate picture of my likes and dislikes, but I'll give you it's the only one you have. I haven't added anything to that in a long time, and tastes change.

I do find it amusing how personally people take things people say on silly internet forums though.
03/18/2011 01:14:18 PM · #71
Originally posted by chromeydome:

I suspect that every entrant learned at least one or two things.


Yup: apparently I'll never be able to emulate Manny....
03/18/2011 01:29:42 PM · #72
Originally posted by tanguera:


Yup: apparently I'll never be able to emulate Manny....


Whatever! you've grown so much recently! i doubt that you well never be able to do that. within a year or so really have improved and grown! (you should really keep trying) =]
03/18/2011 02:29:07 PM · #73
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by chromeydome:

I suspect that every entrant learned at least one or two things.


Yup: apparently I'll never be able to emulate Manny....


ROFL! I learned that too!
03/18/2011 10:03:17 PM · #74
Oh DPC, god love this place!

Off to vote!
03/19/2011 06:32:01 PM · #75
I thought this was a very good challenge, and some excellent entries. A lot of very over-processed eyes though -- is this typical for Librodo?
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