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03/10/2014 12:12:07 PM · #1
For those interested, I just noticed on the Zenfolio website that they're giving a 20% discount to new subscribers, no referral code needed. You do need to request the code by getting on their mailing list. Go to their site and there's a "adlet" on the top about the 20% discount and a place to enter your email.

09/19/2013 12:06:30 AM · #2
I tend to rely on google analytics rather than the stats in Zenfolio as they provide more information about who is visiting and the overall flow through my site. The Zenfolio visit counts are available via the Zenfolio API, so I'm surprised nobody has built a utility to track changes on a daily basis.
09/18/2013 07:00:05 PM · #3
The available stats aren't anywhere near what Smugmug has, but when you first go to the back end home page, look over on the lower right. The bottom couple tabs of the "toolbox" on the right. There is a tab for "Most popular photos and videos" and one for "Most popular galleries."
09/18/2013 01:50:08 PM · #4
I have a question, and was not able to find the answer to it yesterday in the few minutes I had to seek.

When I was on smugmug, there was a I could pull up gallery stats and see which picture had the most views, when, etc. A pretty comprehensive overall statistical view of what was going on.

On ZF, all I can find is "views" on the picture/gallery. Is there anywhere else that breaks it down more?
09/18/2013 11:11:31 AM · #5
Hi Neil,

I played with some of the new presets and then made my way back to my original home page. I used a classic layout for my home page and that still works. All of the images in my slide show are exactly the same size. For my portrait shots, I just wrote a photoshop script to pad them with a color that matches my background color. I don't link to them from the slideshow because they look a bit odd outside that context, but at least the slideshow has a consistent appearance.
09/13/2013 04:24:33 PM · #6
Originally posted by Stiger:

I didn't realize they finally implemented the changes. I'm playing around with the layouts a little here at work, but every Zenfolio customer in the world must be on the site right now. It's soooo sloooow.

Neil, how do you have your images set in the original gallery that they're being pulled from? I'm wondering if that gallery is set to view no bigger than 800px or so. Then it might be blowing them up for the bigger slideshow on the front page. Just a thought.


That could be part of it. Actually, my slideshow was based on a collection...so it came from multiple galleries.

I made a new one and removed the portrait orientation shots, because the frame was showing portrait size, then all the landscape photos were "squeezed into the middle of the frame...unlike before. However, I messed up the settings even more now by trying their "presets" and can't even get back to where I started. You would think there would be one place to "save" your settings so you could try other things out and then restore the original settings.

Still working on it!

Message edited by author 2013-09-13 16:29:47.
09/13/2013 04:05:40 PM · #7
I didn't realize they finally implemented the changes. I'm playing around with the layouts a little here at work, but every Zenfolio customer in the world must be on the site right now. It's soooo sloooow.

Neil, how do you have your images set in the original gallery that they're being pulled from? I'm wondering if that gallery is set to view no bigger than 800px or so. Then it might be blowing them up for the bigger slideshow on the front page. Just a thought.

Message edited by author 2013-09-13 16:06:24.
09/13/2013 03:40:22 PM · #8
WARNING ZENFOLIO USERS ... Oy Vey...what did they do!!!!

The slide show on my home page now looks like crap as or. Trying every one of their new home page templates shows the "spotlight" images either way too big and pixelated and cropped or way too small.

Check your home pages...

And if anyone figures out how to get a decent slide show on the home page again, let me know!
03/22/2013 03:54:21 PM · #9
That's a great start, David. I love the concept of simply dragging the photos into the slots on the package but I was only able to do so with the first image that I selected. Once I had the first one dragged over I was notified that I had not yet completed the assembly of the package but when I went back to shopping I couldn't display the "empty slots of the package" AND the other image choices. Once I finally figured out how to get back to the image gallery, I no longer had the package in front of me and I can't figure out how to complete it.

I would bet that this is simply because this is just a quick mock up of what you now have in mind and that it can be fine tuned to work for clients who need a simple way to assemble packages. Anyway, I see that it is possible to create it. I would need to make it work more smoothly for clients who are not very adept at using a computer (many of mine aren't).

Thanks for taking the time to create that sample for me. It appears that you are now quite interested in this feature. Let me know if you refine it to some point that it works a lot better.

edit to add: It might be necessary to have clients put the images that they are interested in into some sort of favorites folder and then drag images from there.

edit to add again: Yes, it worked by putting all of my potential selections into my favorites and then selecting the package product. It was fairly cumbersome and I'd like to make it more simple for "simple" clients, but you been very helpful in determining the answer to my question.

If you have some sort of referral code for which you can get credit from Zenfolio, send it to me and I'll be happy to use it.

Thanks a lot!

Message edited by author 2013-03-22 16:12:37.
03/22/2013 03:28:47 PM · #10
Originally posted by yakatme:

Thanks for creating that sample for me, David. The option that I would want to create in my pricing on Zenfolio is the ability for a client of my sports or dance studio photography to be able to choose a package of different images based on something like this:

Any (2) 5x7's
Any (1) 8x10
Any (4) 4x6's

Say the total for purchasing these separately would be $65, they would be able to purchase all of the prints in this package for something like $49.95.

My clients absolutely love the ability to create their own packages of different images of different sizes and save money. Actually, it makes them happy and results in significantly larger orders, making quite a bit for me.

Is it possible on Zenfolio to offer this option of clients assembling packages of different images?


I had never tried this, but I just did and it's pretty cool. The user can actually drag and drop individual images into their package. I put the package on the same smaple gallery so you can try it.
03/22/2013 03:08:03 PM · #11
Originally posted by MattO:

OK I've played around with it in between work trying to customize the site and I've watched a few of their recorded webinars. Site for now.

So far it's OK. I have to figure out the pricing, and the branding so I can use my own domain name. I may buy the package I need for now and upgrade once I am comfortable using it.

If you sell from MPIX or their other places how is the quality? How is the selection? How is the speed of processing.

I am still unsure about them not allowing me to upload low res files and having to essentially final edit all the files without being able to sell larger sizes.

Matt


Hey Matt,

I'm just now getting around to leaving EM for another site as well and Zenfolio has been recommended by several other photogs who have also left EM. I see that you are now at Zenfolio also. How is it working out for you?

I also like to upload a ton of pics and edit only the ones that are purchased like we can at EM. Have you found the solution at Zenfolio regarding this option that you were asking about?
03/22/2013 03:05:35 PM · #12
Thanks for creating that sample for me, David. The option that I would want to create in my pricing on Zenfolio is the ability for a client of my sports or dance studio photography to be able to choose a package of different images based on something like this:

Any (2) 5x7's
Any (1) 8x10
Any (4) 4x6's

Say the total for purchasing these separately would be $65, they would be able to purchase all of the prints in this package for something like $49.95.

My clients absolutely love the ability to create their own packages of different images of different sizes and save money. Actually, it makes them happy and results in significantly larger orders, making quite a bit for me.

Is it possible on Zenfolio to offer this option of clients assembling packages of different images?

Message edited by author 2013-03-22 15:09:36.
03/22/2013 02:41:33 PM · #13
You can create packages on Zenfolio and the prices can show up along with your individual print prices.

I think some people create PDF price lists because the Zenfolio price list shows up after a customer has an item in their cart. There are featured prices that show up without using the cart, but as soon as the user select the option to see all of the prices they will need to pick an image to add to their cart. The PDF makes it easier if you want to show a user all of the prices before they are working with their cart. I tossed out a quick sample gallery with one image and an old price list that includes a package of wallet sized prints. In the example I show product categories before select the products, but you can chose to just show a full list without the category selection first. Hope it helps, didn't have time to do more than just toss together a couple things.
03/22/2013 02:12:17 PM · #14
Originally posted by tryals15:

I am on Zenfolio as well. (www.ryalsphotography.com) I really like it. I think I've been there for almost 3 years now. I am a huge fan of Mpix, so when it came time to build a site, it seemed like a pretty obvious choice.


Hi Trey (or anybody else who can help me out with my question)

Since I am considering switching from Exposure Manager to Zenfolio for my website, I have been reading through the DPC ZenFolio User's Group thread here.

While looking at your website I noticed that you have links to PDFs which contain package pricing. Sales of packages and the option to do so is a huge part of my overall sales and is important to my business. I was wondering if you employed the link to those PDFs because you were unable to incorporate packages into your available products directly through Zenfolio. I would like to be able to list my packages on the same price list that individual prints and products are listed and if that is not possible then I will have to reconsider going to Zenfolio.

To see exactly the product list including my packages CLICK HERE and click on the Packages of Single Images Only tab.

10/21/2012 05:00:12 PM · #15
Hey Ozzie,

Double check the jpegs you are upload and make sure they are still in sRGB. I realize that you edit in sRGB, but that doesn't mean that they are not being converted on export. The only time I have experienced this problem was when I accidentally uploading photos in AdobeRGB and the browser assumed sRGB.

I'm curious why you edit in sRGB? I think it's consider a best practice to edit and the wider color space, such as AdobeRGB, and then convert when preparing the downsized imaged for web use.
10/21/2012 04:15:11 PM · #16
Originally posted by Ozzie:

I'm encountering a problem I haven't had before. I just calibrated my monitor yesterday, to update it.

What I have now noticed is that for any photo I edit in LR4, it looks more saturated on the zenfolio site. I am trying to figure out why this is so, when I haven't had that problem before.

Also, whenever I sit down to do some work, the desktop screen looks a little bright, so I think it's ok. Then a few seconds later, the screen seems to dim a bit. I don't know if I have inadvertently bumped a setting which has caused this?

The desktop is set on sRGB. Should it be in Adobe RGB and I always edit my photos in sRGB.

This is bothering me!

PS ( I did move my desk around, which means my back is towards the window, but on an angle. I thought perhaps the light coming in was affecting it. So I did an experiment just now, I put down the blinds, yet the screen still darkened slightly after about 20 seconds)


I've not noticed that on mine.

That's going to be tough to figure out! When you download the jpg back from ZF or look at the JPEG that was uploaded, does it look any more saturated on your monitor? Hsve you tried a different browser?

Perhaps now you are embedding the color profile, and before you weren't? Or vice versa?

10/21/2012 02:38:12 PM · #17
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10/21/2012 03:00:17 AM · #18
I'm encountering a problem I haven't had before. I just calibrated my monitor yesterday, to update it.

What I have now noticed is that for any photo I edit in LR4, it looks more saturated on the zenfolio site. I am trying to figure out why this is so, when I haven't had that problem before.

Also, whenever I sit down to do some work, the desktop screen looks a little bright, so I think it's ok. Then a few seconds later, the screen seems to dim a bit. I don't know if I have inadvertently bumped a setting which has caused this?

The desktop is set on sRGB. Should it be in Adobe RGB and I always edit my photos in sRGB.

This is bothering me!

PS ( I did move my desk around, which means my back is towards the window, but on an angle. I thought perhaps the light coming in was affecting it. So I did an experiment just now, I put down the blinds, yet the screen still darkened slightly after about 20 seconds)

Message edited by author 2012-10-21 14:39:38.
09/25/2012 08:26:41 PM · #19
OK I've played around with it in between work trying to customize the site and I've watched a few of their recorded webinars. Site for now.

So far it's OK. I have to figure out the pricing, and the branding so I can use my own domain name. I may buy the package I need for now and upgrade once I am comfortable using it.

If you sell from MPIX or their other places how is the quality? How is the selection? How is the speed of processing.

I am still unsure about them not allowing me to upload low res files and having to essentially final edit all the files without being able to sell larger sizes.

Matt
09/23/2012 02:40:49 PM · #20
Originally posted by MattO:

. . .
OK Exposuremanager by default allows me to put up every gallery as display only and to add watermarks to them. I haven't found that option with Zenfolio yet. I may be sticking with EM just for the simplistic features it allows.
. . .
Matt


Go to your edit page and click on the name of a gallery. On the right side of the screen, you will see all your options for this gallery. 1) general owner information; 2) friendly URL and client access code; 3) gallery description; 4) thumbnail and cover photo option; 5) print ordering options; 6) visitor sign in options; 7) access control options (this is where you can control the size of the image displayed); 8) watermark options.

I don't see why you can't disable print ordering (5th box down) and add a watermark (last box) to the entire gallery and get what you want.
09/23/2012 02:07:05 PM · #21
Originally posted by Venser:

Originally posted by MattO:

I don't want to final edit every photo that I upload until a print is bought. So I don't want anything sold off an unedited photo. I want the order to be placed and then let me do the final editing and cropping. Do they allow this?
Yes, they allow it. It's more cumbersome, but there is that option.


OK Exposuremanager by default allows me to put up every gallery as display only and to add watermarks to them. I haven't found that option with Zenfolio yet. I may be sticking with EM just for the simplistic features it allows.

What I like about Zenfolio is the simple Website it allows me to have. I don't like some of the other "features" just yet though.

Matt
09/23/2012 01:39:33 PM · #22
Originally posted by MattO:

I don't want to final edit every photo that I upload until a print is bought. So I don't want anything sold off an unedited photo. I want the order to be placed and then let me do the final editing and cropping. Do they allow this?
Yes, they allow it. It's more cumbersome, but there is that option.
09/23/2012 01:38:02 PM · #23
Originally posted by MattO:

. . . I did play with the crop tool, however if I don't upload high res photos it won't allow me to purchase anything larger.

I don't want to final edit every photo that I upload until a print is bought. So I don't want anything sold off an unedited photo. I want the order to be placed and then let me do the final editing and cropping. Do they allow this?


If I am understanding your first (implicit) question correctly, you can upload a full resolution image but restrict the size/resolution the viewer sees (therefore what anyone could screen copy). And you can disallow downloads (that may even be the default setting, I forget)

For the second question, I would say no. What I do in this situation is put up a first client access only gallery with the unedited photos in it. I do not allow ordering from this gallery and I make sure the quality is pretty low (but still high enough for them to get a good look at the images). I ask the client to make the selections, mark them as favorites, and send them to me through email (this is all very easy for the client to do). Now I do the edits and either create a second gallery they can order from or empty the first gallery and put the edited versions in it, activating the buy option at this time.

09/23/2012 12:55:32 PM · #24
Thanks do they have tutorials on how to set everything up? I've started a free trial just to get a feel for it, and it doesn't seem too intuitive right off the bat. I did play with the crop tool, however if I don't upload high res photos it won't allow me to purchase anything larger.

I don't want to final edit every photo that I upload until a print is bought. So I don't want anything sold off an unedited photo. I want the order to be placed and then let me do the final editing and cropping. Do they allow this?

09/23/2012 12:22:30 PM · #25
Originally posted by MattO:

Can you put up low resolution images only as proofs and then when an order is made they inform you so you can upload properly edited and cropped images?
You can upload full resolution images, and in the gallery restrict the size the public would see. Then you don't have to do things twice. Here are the sizes you can choose for the public viewings. Most of my images underneath are 4200x2800. I try to compose my images so in post I do minimal cropping.
XX-Large (1550 x 960)
X-Large (1100 x 850)
Large (800 x 630)
Medium (580 x 450)
Small (400 x 400)

Originally posted by MattO:

Do they allow your client to preview what different crop ratios would look like?
Yes. You can also restrict the crop ratios potential clients can see. So if you have a square image, and are adamant it must stay square, you can set that up.


Message edited by author 2012-09-23 12:24:27.
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