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05/08/2011 12:27:06 AM · #1
I know this was discussed in detail before. I did a forum search with no luck. Topaz in basic is OK now....right?
05/08/2011 12:39:41 AM · #2
Yes. Just no selective editing and the way the ruling of the site council read is that it cannot be used to the point that it becomes a treatment. I think that would have to push it pretty hard, though. I've seen some heavy use of it in basic without getting a DQ.
05/08/2011 12:44:55 AM · #3
You're not entering that one of ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/31.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/31.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Rugman1969 scratching his butt are you?

Originally posted by SEG:

I know this was discussed in detail before. I did a forum search with no luck. Topaz in basic is OK now....right?
05/09/2011 11:17:58 PM · #4
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Yes. Just no selective editing and the way the ruling of the site council read is that it cannot be used to the point that it becomes a treatment. I think that would have to push it pretty hard, though. I've seen some heavy use of it in basic without getting a DQ.


Got specific examples of non DQ'ed top scorers in Basic with obvious Topaz use? I searched but could not find any.
05/09/2011 11:25:52 PM · #5
Well I found this one by ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Nikonjebthat seems to be "Topazed" quite a bit in basic.

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But do you think something like this would fly in basic?

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BTW I put in a ticket with SC also. Just wanting to see what the general public's idea of non DQable image that's been treated with Topaz is?

Message edited by author 2011-05-09 23:29:25.
05/09/2011 11:32:58 PM · #6
Here's some examples of my own basic editing entries that used a fair amount of Topaz Adjust. I use it in most of my entries, but my usage of it has become more subtle over time.
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Message edited by author 2011-05-09 23:41:59.
05/10/2011 02:03:43 AM · #7
Never even got a validation request for this one, which surprised me. Topazed the heck out of it, I did... So I guess it's OK... :-)

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05/10/2011 11:19:54 AM · #8
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Here's some examples of my own basic editing entries that used a fair amount of Topaz Adjust. I use it in most of my entries, but my usage of it has become more subtle over time.
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Yes I did, and I did it all on the background layer. (So no duplicate layers here.) I think a lot of it was using the denoise, and then topaz Adjust to bring out the detail. And if I remember correctly, it got a validation request and passed :)
07/21/2011 09:32:52 AM · #9
I was hoping to find a definitive answer here, too. There's a terrific image in the "ROT in Blue" Challenge, but as a Topaz user, I recognized the treatment immediately. IMO, it's past the Basic level of use, and way over into Digital Art. I won't ask for a possible disqualification, but how does one know where the cut-off point is? The Site Council seems to have left a lot of leeway regarding the degree of universal application(the no spot-editing part was easy!)

In Nikon D70's examples, I'd say the top one is Digital Art, and the bottom one is just good basic editing (like most of Yo Spiff's images.) The little girl with the bear is on the "iffy line" and would give me pause, too.
07/21/2011 10:16:25 AM · #10
I use topaz adjust frequently. Mostly the photo pop and clarity settings. These have been validated.

However, I use these setting because I don't think they look too topazed, so I'm not sure if this will help.

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