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05/11/2011 10:15:58 PM · #1
I'm calling it shattersmoke. And here's a gallery:

A Shattersmoke Gallery

The basic idea is to reveal a bit of a temporal element in your standard smoke photography, by using a rapid succession of strobing flashes. You end up with really biological, skeletal, and deep-sea looking forms and shapes as the smoke drifts and curls. It's rather lovely if you ask me! You be the judge:

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Shattersmoke Crayfish 7395 by PKMousie, on Flickr

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Shattersmoke 7473 by PKMousie, on Flickr

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Shattersmoke 7645 by PKMousie, on Flickr

So there you have it. Too bad there's no challenge for me to shoehorn these pix into!
05/11/2011 10:21:51 PM · #2
Wow!!! Love these!
05/11/2011 10:21:56 PM · #3
Very cool, I especially like the first two!
05/11/2011 10:37:40 PM · #4
Wow awesome, I really like them.. tho I don not understand for the life of me how you did it :)
05/11/2011 10:42:32 PM · #5
I guess someone tried it before you, but in any case these shots are wonderful!
05/11/2011 11:41:44 PM · #6
You did this in camera using strobes?
05/11/2011 11:46:33 PM · #7
these are really cool :) i especially like the first one :) very pretty! did you edit the colors in? (sorry if that sounds like a dum question... i just dont know)
05/11/2011 11:46:50 PM · #8
i'm curious, is it only the high-end strobes that can flash this quickly? I know my recharge time is like 2seconds, so to fire 10 flashes in a row like this makes me wonder.
05/11/2011 11:59:59 PM · #9
Originally posted by ScooterMcNutty:

these are really cool :) i especially like the first one :) very pretty! did you edit the colors in? (sorry if that sounds like a dum question... i just dont know)


the way the colors intertwine that would be some pretty talented photoshopping imo
05/12/2011 12:00:50 AM · #10
Originally posted by jamesgoss:

i'm curious, is it only the high-end strobes that can flash this quickly? I know my recharge time is like 2seconds, so to fire 10 flashes in a row like this makes me wonder.


Lower the intensity and you'll increase your recycle time dramatically. Batteries are a BIG variable here, as well.
The repeating function on the flash is something I've only messed with a tiny bit, but there are a lot of cool possibilities, this one obviously being one of them. Cool results.
05/12/2011 12:02:51 AM · #11
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by jamesgoss:

i'm curious, is it only the high-end strobes that can flash this quickly? I know my recharge time is like 2seconds, so to fire 10 flashes in a row like this makes me wonder.


Lower the intensity and you'll increase your recycle time dramatically. Batteries are a BIG variable here, as well.
The repeating function on the flash is something I've only messed with a tiny bit, but there are a lot of cool possibilities, this one obviously being one of them. Cool results.

I've seen a Sunpak 555 flash at 8fps at 1/64 power.
05/12/2011 12:06:03 AM · #12
Originally posted by jamesgoss:

i'm curious, is it only the high-end strobes that can flash this quickly? I know my recharge time is like 2seconds, so to fire 10 flashes in a row like this makes me wonder.


small on camera flashes usually have a strobic effect in hz. push the button and it puts off small flashed pulses

Matt
05/12/2011 12:09:18 AM · #13
Cool!
05/12/2011 12:19:06 AM · #14
Originally posted by jamesgoss:

i'm curious, is it only the high-end strobes that can flash this quickly? I know my recharge time is like 2seconds, so to fire 10 flashes in a row like this makes me wonder.


//www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4-Ex9nS880
05/12/2011 12:23:32 AM · #15
Great stuff Peter ,love these images. I have to try smoke , right now i'm hooked on bouncing paint off speakers, lol
05/12/2011 10:13:55 AM · #16
Originally posted by Socom:

Wow awesome, I really like them.. tho I don not understand for the life of me how you did it :)


The setup is very simple.

- Find something that generates smoke. I was burning a cotton string then snuffing it back to an ember. Incense is easier.
- Place it some distance in front of a black background
- Position a light (or lights) to the side of the smoke, maybe slightly behind it, making sure to control any spill on the background and camera

This will get you nice smoke pictures with a little patience. Then, to shatter the results...

- Set the lights to slightly underexpose the smoke each time they flash, to preserve a little detail in the brightest areas if they overlap while drifting around
- Set your lights to strobe rapidly, either using a flash with a built-in strobe setting, or rapidly triggering a series of non-strobing flashes in sequence

Now, with even more patience, you'll be able to capture something like what I linked.

Tips:

- Let the air clear out once in a while, the more smoke in the air the less contrast you'll have
- Use TONS of light, small apertures really help keep details in focus, and low ISO helps smoke look nicer
- Conversely, use low output power to speed recharge time. Boost light by placing it closer, not adding more power.
- Wait for a smooth stream of smoke to turn chaotic and capture the moment of transition for a more controlled looking image

The post-processing I'll leave up as an exercise for you guys, there's many ways to do it. :)
05/12/2011 10:17:38 AM · #17
Originally posted by smardaz:

Originally posted by ScooterMcNutty:

these are really cool :) i especially like the first one :) very pretty! did you edit the colors in? (sorry if that sounds like a dum question... i just dont know)


the way the colors intertwine that would be some pretty talented photoshopping imo


I did edit the colors in, but with a giant, sloppy color adjustment brush. Though I did start over a couple times on certain images to improve the color after I was done trying stuff out, it's not that hard. The black background makes it simple to just drop in colors where I wanted. I used Lightroom, but you could definitely get better, more saturated results in Photoshop.
05/12/2011 10:18:29 AM · #18
Nice idea,thanks for the info.
05/12/2011 10:57:34 AM · #19
I think the results are absolutely beautiful. Bet you stunk up the place doing it though!
05/12/2011 11:11:05 AM · #20
Some results from Photoshop where you get a lot more control over post-processing effects:

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Shattersmoke 7743 by PKMousie, on Flickr

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Shattersmoke 7710 by PKMousie, on Flickr

Thanks for the feedback, folks! I'm looking forward to seeing what other people can come up with. :)
05/12/2011 11:25:47 AM · #21
Can I ask what you use for the smoke?
05/12/2011 11:51:15 AM · #22
Cotton string with an ember at the tip. :)
05/12/2011 12:32:24 PM · #23
Really cool stuff Mousie! It's awesome when you stumble across something that's new to you and produces a creative result.
05/12/2011 12:47:20 PM · #24
I think it might be new to the world... I have yet to dig up a smoke picture that's been obviously strobed. :D
05/12/2011 12:55:22 PM · #25
Originally posted by Mousie:

I think it might be new to the world... I have yet to dig up a smoke picture that's been obviously strobed. :D

challenge accepted..

..1 Google search later //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr0aroOKieQ

Message edited by author 2011-05-12 12:55:37.
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