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07/15/2002 09:49:40 AM · #1
Well, since no one else has put this up, I figured why not me.

I am thinking this might be an interesting thing to score, considering how I have read people score a lot based on if it fits the challenge. What is going to qualify as texture to people, what is not? Are the abstracts going to rule the day, or otherwise?

Thoughts?
07/15/2002 10:04:00 AM · #2
I think you post a good question... texture could be construed as any sufrace finish on just about any object. for some reason, in my own mind, I think of texture as some surface where you can actually see the coarseness or non-smooth features of the object.

I'm sure there are plenty of abstract definitions of texture though :)
07/15/2002 10:10:34 AM · #3
I'd add to the coarseness and non-smooth things that are known for their smooth qualities -- like silk. But not necessarily something like glass. Does that make sense?
07/15/2002 10:41:42 AM · #4
tex·ture Pronunciation Key (tkschr)
n.
A structure of interwoven fibers or other elements.

The distinctive physical composition or structure of something, especially with respect to the size, shape, and arrangment of its parts: the texture of sandy soil; the texture of cooked fish.

The appearance and feel of a surface: the smooth texture of soap.

A rough or grainy surface quality: Brick walls give a room texture.

Distinctive or identifying quality or character: “an intensely meditative poet [who] conveys the religious and cultural texture of time spent in a Benedictine monastery” (New York Times).

The quality given to a piece of art, literature, or music by the interrelationship of its elements: “The baroque influence in his music is clear here, with the harmonic complexity and texture” (Rachelle Roe).

... from dictionary.com

This is what I call 'latitude' :)



07/15/2002 10:43:36 AM · #5
mag99's texture weather report:

i think abstracts are going to rule the day. . there will be the occasional alternative interpretation that will be scored poorly unless it's somehow both brilliant and obvious : )
07/15/2002 10:45:05 AM · #6
Dictionary definations... and I thought people would be picky =)
07/15/2002 11:29:24 AM · #7
Originally posted by Agamemnon:
Dictionary definations... and I thought people would be picky =)

The dictionary definition leaves it fairly wide open.. the voter definition is what kills :)


07/15/2002 01:28:52 PM · #8
Damn you just killed my idea. I was gonna go catch a fish down in the keys and take some macros of it. ;)

Originally posted by jmsetzler:
tex·ture Pronunciation Key (tkschr)
n.
the texture of cooked fish.



07/15/2002 01:59:07 PM · #9
Well, I didn't participate in the Free Study challenge (didn't go anywhere, and its been too hot for my brain to be creative this week).. but I am gonna submit this time around for sure!

What do you guys think that this picture would have gotten me in this challenge? I'm just curious. I'm obviously not going to use this photo or one like it (yeah, imagine me running back to the dorms "Hi, you don't know me but I used to live there, can I borrow your wall for a second?") ;) I just want some feedback.

thanks!
07/15/2002 02:00:59 PM · #10
Originally posted by Jenguin:
Well, I didn't participate in the Free Study challenge (didn't go anywhere, and its been too hot for my brain to be creative this week).. but I am gonna submit this time around for sure!

What do you guys think that this picture would have gotten me in this challenge? I'm just curious. I'm obviously not going to use this photo or one like it (yeah, imagine me running back to the dorms "Hi, you don't know me but I used to live there, can I borrow your wall for a second?") ;) I just want some feedback.

thanks!


I think it would make a neat texture photo :)
07/15/2002 02:04:51 PM · #11
ooooh, a bit Risky, maybe a touch cliche,not very creative:-)

*Grin*
07/15/2002 02:35:52 PM · #12
Thanks guys :)
07/16/2002 03:29:48 PM · #13
what about the titles for this week's challenge?

I expect to see a lot of pictures that might make you guess what they're of (abstracts) and judging by the comments (the "what's this" kind) left by some users, I wonder if it's more fun to let them guess (and get low scores because they don't figure things out) or to rub it in their face. will we see a lot of untitled shots?

what do you guys think?

the background for this question are the complaints I get for my title/shot combo in this week's challenge.
07/17/2002 12:45:23 PM · #14
On the one hand I like titles which don't try to explain the photo, but are more creative. On the other hand I experienced that something which is abvious to you might not be visible to others. So a more direct title will increase your score.

I think I'll cowardly use a more explaining title in the "textures" challenge. Somehow I have the desire to explain to the viewer what I did and why.

Actually I would like to see the photo details during voting. This would solve this dilemma.
07/18/2002 02:08:50 AM · #15
Went out today on breaks during work, then a long walk this evening, and took a LOT of pictures (at least until I ran out of memory card space... maybe 80 or so photos... a lot were of boats in the harbor and some sky pix (really neat clouds and lighting), and ended up with obout 30 images of what I'd consider "texture" shots. I'd say maybe half a dozen of those I'd consider submitting. I still have 4 more days though so hopefully I'll get something REALLY sweet.

Brian
07/18/2002 01:34:43 PM · #16
So fearful of wallpaper image overload am I, that I have submitted an anti-wallpaper photo. Great textures (plural) cool image (IMHO) but I expect to get LOTS o comments telling me I missed the point. Guess this also ties into the thread asking if you shot for yourself or the site. In this case, I shot for myself, lead by the site, to see differently and take a photo I'm quite pleased with. Time will tell!
07/18/2002 02:32:36 PM · #17
Well, if you get comments about missing the point, so will I. I had one last night that even got a "Cool" from my husband, but then he said, "You'll have a lot of people asking where the texture is." It is obvious to me, maybe I can title it "Look at the XXXXXXX stupid!" Just kidding. Still looking for THE picture.
07/18/2002 03:52:09 PM · #18
Maybe I'll standardize my comments for next week to cover your photo and mine:
"I see the texture!"
You'll know it's me!
07/18/2002 03:56:44 PM · #19
After much thought, reading what Webster has to say about "Texture," and reading the comments on this forum, I've come to the conclusion that it would be easy to confuse texture with pattern and design. As I vote this week the question I will ask myself is; "Is there both tactile and visual quality?" If not, then I won't be considering it "texture!" Could I be thinking too much???
07/18/2002 04:18:51 PM · #20
My 2 cents...

If an image lets me imagine what it would feel like to touch the subject, it meets the challenge for me :)

So I'm bracing myself for a week of "I don't see the texture here" comments attached to whatever I submit :)
07/18/2002 04:23:04 PM · #21
Originally posted by syamjonimi:
After much thought, reading what Webster has to say about "Texture," and reading the comments on this forum, I've come to the conclusion that it would be easy to confuse texture with pattern and design. As I vote this week the question I will ask myself is; "Is there both tactile and visual quality?" If not, then I won't be considering it "texture!" Could I be thinking too much???

Never -- maybe still limiting yourself. There are other qualities than tactile described as having texture -- see the last two examples posted by jmsetzler above. Since very single entry next week will feel like a sheet of glass or plastic, I'd say it's maybe the appearance of 3-dimensionality you'd want to capture. Also, why doesn't anyone think a sheet of glass doesn't have "texture?" It just has a smooth texture.

I generally consider that kind of technical "meeting the challenge" aspect as less important in my own evaluations, although I'll often give "extra credit" you a clearly-conveyed original interpretation or twist.
07/18/2002 04:39:32 PM · #22
ok

here's what's I envision happening:

the forum readers are going to rebel against conformity by doing anti-wallpaper texture pictures,, except for some of which who don't care and are just going to try to get the best score : )

meanwhile the non-forum readers and voters will go for the wallpaper pictures, which will end being what does well - except perhaps for one or 2 of the 'original-style' pics, one of which may make it as high as 3rd - or 4th, but a few will be in the top 10, and receive comments along the lines of 'should have scored higher' ..

anyone want to put down money? :)
07/18/2002 04:39:47 PM · #23
LOL I think thpose who go out on a limb are in trouble.
07/18/2002 04:59:04 PM · #24
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I think you post a good question... texture could be construed as any sufrace finish on just about any object. for some reason, in my own mind, I think of texture as some surface where you can actually see the coarseness or non-smooth features of the object.

I'm sure there are plenty of abstract definitions of texture though :)


I think that the textures that are interesting to look at/ photograph are the ones
that have more of a finish to them, that's all. Sure smooth, flat surfaces have a
texture, it is just boring - maybe making them interesting will be an interesting
challenge!

trees are a good bet
for interesting textures, and I personally like rust

07/18/2002 05:09:56 PM · #25
Originally posted by Agamemnon:
LOL I think those who "go out on a limb" are in trouble.

So... Yer saying trees might "not" be a good bet?
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