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06/30/2011 09:29:50 PM · #1
High pass sharpening:

* With this new layer highlighted select Filter / Other / High Pass. Set the Radius to 10 and click OK.
* Zoom into your image to Actual Pixels level so you can better see what you're going to do next.
* Go back to the Layer Palette and select Hard Light from the left drop down.
* Now go to the Opacity Slider and select a level of sharpening that seems best to you. Usually something between 20% and 70% will be best.

Do we know for a certainty that this is legal? I really like my shot, and if no one is sure, I'll do sharpening in another way. But I think it helped a little bit, so if it is legal, I'd like to use it.
06/30/2011 09:40:16 PM · #2
it doesn't seem like its breaking any advanced rules. in fact how would that even be illegal in basic?

Message edited by author 2011-06-30 21:42:04.
06/30/2011 09:43:59 PM · #3
Originally posted by mike_311:

it doesn't seem like its breaking any advanced rules. in fact how would that even be illegal in basic?


It's legal in advanced, no problem. It's not legal in basic because it uses a pixel-containing layer, and one that's set to a layer mode other thannormal to boot.

R.

Message edited by author 2011-06-30 21:44:46.
06/30/2011 09:44:19 PM · #4
you're changing the blending mode, and it's not an adjustment layer.
06/30/2011 09:45:59 PM · #5
Thanks, Bear! I decided against it after all -- but the knowledge is definitely good to have. I just went to the computer to look at the free study one last time. I decided to make a wise move and stop second guessing and just leave it alone! I guess I'll find out in the morning whether it was a mistake. :)

Message edited by author 2011-06-30 21:51:59.
06/30/2011 09:46:58 PM · #6
Gawd, please edit that to get rid of my cAPS snafu :-)

R.
06/30/2011 09:51:13 PM · #7
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Gawd, please edit that to get rid of my cAPS snafu :-)

R.


Hahah!! I had the same problem! I had to retype half of the original post. Maybe caps are trying to take over the world?
06/30/2011 10:16:02 PM · #8
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by mike_311:

it doesn't seem like its breaking any advanced rules. in fact how would that even be illegal in basic?


It's legal in advanced, no problem. It's not legal in basic because it uses a pixel-containing layer, and one that's set to a layer mode other thannormal to boot.

R.


and this is why i dont photoshop basic editing entries....
06/30/2011 10:18:54 PM · #9
Originally posted by vawendy:

High pass sharpening:

* With this new layer highlighted select Filter / Other / High Pass. Set the Radius to 10 and click OK.
* Zoom into your image to Actual Pixels level so you can better see what you're going to do next.
* Go back to the Layer Palette and select Hard Light from the left drop down.
* Now go to the Opacity Slider and select a level of sharpening that seems best to you. Usually something between 20% and 70% will be best.

Do we know for a certainty that this is legal? I really like my shot, and if no one is sure, I'll do sharpening in another way. But I think it helped a little bit, so if it is legal, I'd like to use it.


I use high pass sharpening all the time on my advanced edit images. I prefer it to USM etc. I have a different technique, but it's similar in most aspects.

Dave
07/01/2011 08:25:24 AM · #10
i have just started experimenting with ps sharpening, does anyone prefer smart sharpen?
07/01/2011 09:16:33 AM · #11
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the high pass thing seemed to help - I tweaked a bit of USM on the background layer as well...

I don't think I've ever used smart sharpen
07/01/2011 10:57:58 AM · #12
The things you can do with High Pass are amazing, have you guys seen or used it for smoothing and blending for skin?
07/01/2011 11:00:26 AM · #13
I prefer soft light blending mode to hard light.
07/01/2011 02:15:52 PM · #14
Originally posted by cloudsme:

I prefer soft light blending mode to hard light.


I've never set it to hard light. 95 percent of the time I use it with the overlay blend mode, but I don't amp it up to 10 to start with. I normally find that on DPC size or web size files that .3 is sufficient when judging the preview window. If by chance it's a little more than I want I'll adjust the opacity down a bit. That is normally the procedure for me. If by chance....which is rare I find that it's still more than I want I'll change it back to full opacity, switch my blend mode to soft light and than adjust the opacity again if needed.

On full size prints I might use high pass and use a starting point normally between .9 to 1.2 depending on the actual content of the photo. If the photo is a bit soft to begin with I might go higher and then adjust the opacity and blend mode as described above.

Dave
07/01/2011 08:06:26 PM · #15
Is there an advantage to high pass sharpening over USM? Just been playing around with it a bit and love it, would like to know more.
07/01/2011 08:34:38 PM · #16
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Originally posted by DCNUTTER:

Originally posted by cloudsme:

I prefer soft light blending mode to hard light.


I've never set it to hard light. 95 percent of the time I use it with the overlay blend mode, but I don't amp it up to 10 to start with. I normally find that on DPC size or web size files that .3 is sufficient when judging the preview window. If by chance it's a little more than I want I'll adjust the opacity down a bit. That is normally the procedure for me. If by chance....which is rare I find that it's still more than I want I'll change it back to full opacity, switch my blend mode to soft light and than adjust the opacity again if needed.

On full size prints I might use high pass and use a starting point normally between .9 to 1.2 depending on the actual content of the photo. If the photo is a bit soft to begin with I might go higher and then adjust the opacity and blend mode as described above.

Dave


I use a similar procedure and settings for advanced editing.
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