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01/10/2012 12:01:38 AM · #1
Didn't see this posted here, it looks pretty cool
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgBl0ejQ8c0
01/16/2012 01:51:46 PM · #2
wow that's crazy, wireless camera lens connected to an iphone.
01/16/2012 01:59:01 PM · #3
Cool concept. Even better when his mother was calling him!
01/16/2012 02:05:07 PM · #4
Very cool concept camera. More on their website: //www.artefactgroup.com/wvil/

They also came up with this awesome printer concept: SWYP
01/16/2012 02:33:26 PM · #5
thats a really well done publicity stunt hats off to them hehe
01/16/2012 03:05:47 PM · #6
Originally posted by Giles_uk:

thats a really well done publicity stunt hats off to them hehe


Possibly quite a bit more than that.
It is true that anybody can toss out a futuristic concept; usually these ad-hoc concepts can be easily shown to rely on technology that does not exist and will not in the near future. This concept is probably very workable. The two technology hurdles would be:
1.) The data transfer rate between the lens/sensor module and the display module
2.) Battery performance of the lens/sensor module
Other than these two items, there are no real impediments to building such a device. There may be cost issues. A FF sensor is not going to be cheap, and packing all the readout and processing into the lens/sensor module would likely be costly to implement, though technically doable.
Notice on their website that the design is "Patent Pending." This shows that the design is much more than a back-of-the-envelope concept.
01/16/2012 03:26:17 PM · #7
Here's there own write-up on it. This is a fascinating company...

//www.artefactgroup.com/#/content/camera-futura-a-concept-for-the-future-of-digital-photography
01/16/2012 04:10:08 PM · #8
I also noticed that one picture shows a lens I haven't seen before and in another picture it shows a Canon 24-70L lens attached. Can an array of lens from different manufactures be attached or would you have to purchase a specific unit for specific lens.

01/16/2012 04:19:13 PM · #9
Originally posted by SDW:

I also noticed that one picture shows a lens I haven't seen before and in another picture it shows a Canon 24-70L lens attached. Can an array of lens from different manufactures be attached or would you have to purchase a specific unit for specific lens.


If they design their mount with a very short "register distance" (the distance from the flange to the sensor) then in theory various adapters could be mounted to the camera module that would allow the physical mounting of pretty much any SLR lens. The trick would be enabling things like aperture control or AF. We know it is possible to reverse-engineer the EOS communication protocol; the existence of 3rd-party lenses is direct evidence of this.

ETA: There is no technical reason why they could not use a short register distance; they don't need space for a mirror.

Message edited by author 2012-01-16 16:20:07.
01/16/2012 04:35:08 PM · #10
I have to say it is a nice concept. I remember a thread a year or so ago where we were discussing what we though would be the next advancement in cameras. I don't think anyone of us considered the sensor connected to the lens.

01/16/2012 04:41:50 PM · #11
Originally posted by SDW:

I also noticed that one picture shows a lens I haven't seen before and in another picture it shows a Canon 24-70L lens attached. Can an array of lens from different manufactures be attached or would you have to purchase a specific unit for specific lens.


In their own write-up, they specifically refer to a universal mount, so this can be used with legacy dSLR lenses from multiple manufacturers...

R.

Message edited by author 2012-01-16 16:46:02.
01/16/2012 04:46:42 PM · #12
With all the new designs in current DSLR cameras, mirrorless design come closest to what I like. The one thing I don't like is the lack of a conventional view finder. I'm waiting on the 2-way mirror design that would allow the sensor to see though the back of the mirror and not allowing the view finder to see through the front. In theory having a fixed mirror with no actions. I know they would have to design a mirror that could achieve this without absorbing to much light but, with some cameras ISO hitting 100K, I think it's possible.

01/16/2012 05:00:02 PM · #13
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by SDW:

I also noticed that one picture shows a lens I haven't seen before and in another picture it shows a Canon 24-70L lens attached. Can an array of lens from different manufactures be attached or would you have to purchase a specific unit for specific lens.


In their own write-up, they specifically refer to a universal mount, so this can be used with legacy dSLR lenses from multiple manufacturers...

R.


in the video they refer to the sensor being in the backof the lens so unless that fitted onto the lens then the lens on to the body like a 1.4 teleconverter etc then old lens wouldnt work would they, they live streaming and buffering in hd would be immense amount of data to transmit at mo.
01/16/2012 05:08:32 PM · #14
This warps my brain. A lens that doesn't need a camera...
01/16/2012 05:14:55 PM · #15
Originally posted by tanguera:

This warps my brain. A lens that doesn't need a camera...


Of course it needs a "camera", it's just that the SENSOR becomes part of the lens, and the "camera" is connected wirelessly.

R.
01/16/2012 05:28:05 PM · #16
With a special mount hooked to the wireless lens, one could come up with some special point of view shots. Could you see putting the lens on on 30' pole for an over head view, while remotely controlling the shot from the camera/phone?
01/16/2012 09:02:20 PM · #17
I thought these cameras have some interesting new technology in them.

https://www.lytro.com/mobile/camera
01/16/2012 09:22:18 PM · #18
Originally posted by nstevens85:

I thought these cameras have some interesting new technology in them.

https://www.lytro.com/mobile/camera


I think there are a few threads somewhere about that technology.
It should be at retail stage already.
01/16/2012 10:02:17 PM · #19
Earlier video on WVIL from May 2011.
01/16/2012 10:18:35 PM · #20
oh thats cool I want one
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