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02/11/2012 01:46:03 PM · #1
so, which way are are people leaning on this one? i know it says create letters from props, but will it be more interesting to most to "find" letters in the props and use them?

reference Accidental Letters

Message edited by author 2012-02-11 13:46:58.
02/11/2012 02:11:30 PM · #2
I think that distinction is splitting hairs. I'm probably not entering, but both found and created letters will be ok with me when I vote.
02/11/2012 07:20:26 PM · #3
I am planning on entering and it is an "accidental" letter
02/11/2012 07:35:20 PM · #4
I would have thought I'd agree with spiff, but now looking at the link, I don't see how Sandy's gorgeous egret shot would fit the definition of creating a letter...

I'm so disappointed in myself! Usually I'm quite open minded about challenges, and rarely find DNMCs.... but I just don't see this type fitting.

Message edited by author 2012-02-11 19:36:33.
02/11/2012 08:21:55 PM · #5
I`m planning not entering, but If I understood the propose, maybe this can help
02/11/2012 08:43:36 PM · #6
I'm pretty disappointed in myself because I can usually figure out acronyms but DNMC has me stumped.
02/11/2012 08:48:19 PM · #7
Originally posted by deeby:

I'm pretty disappointed in myself because I can usually figure out acronyms but DNMC has me stumped.


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02/11/2012 08:49:44 PM · #8
thank you!
02/14/2012 02:19:12 AM · #9
hmmm, I'll post an entry today, at last the idea clicked :)
02/14/2012 10:38:41 AM · #10
Originally posted by mefnj:

so, which way are are people leaning on this one? i know it says create letters from props, but will it be more interesting to most to "find" letters in the props and use them?

reference Accidental Letters

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Just for fun, I'll use any props I want to "create" a letter. This won't be a shoehorn. It's an "artistic" interpretation of the challenge. And, it's much more interesting to find an accidental letter, than say.... oh, never mind. I can't stop strict constructionists from voting low on my image. But, that's true of EVERY challenge.
02/14/2012 01:17:02 PM · #11
im drinking lots of tea and coffee, making the most of the snow while its here :)
02/14/2012 01:23:03 PM · #12
Originally posted by Giles_uk:

im drinking lots of tea and coffee, making the most of the snow while its here :)

Do you know the song by Frank Zappa?
02/16/2012 09:56:29 AM · #13
I'm new to the site, signed up yesterday, but I'm killing the scores on many of these photos. When I read create one or more letters using any props you like and photograph your creation I assume one needs to do exactly that. Photos of non-prop letters have been eliciting extremely negative scores on my part.

The question I have being new to the site, should I take the descriptions so literal?

CS

Message edited by author 2012-02-16 09:57:09.
02/16/2012 10:00:19 AM · #14
Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

I'm new to the site, signed up yesterday, but I'm killing the scores on many of these photos. When I read create one or more letters using any props you like and photograph your creation I assume one needs to do exactly that. Photos of non-prop letters have been eliciting extremely negative scores on my part.

The question I have being new to the site, should I take the descriptions so literal?

CS


Depends on whether you want to take pictures you like, or take pictures for high scores. ;D
02/16/2012 10:07:11 AM · #15
Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

...The question I have being new to the site, should I take the descriptions so literal?

CS

Welcome to the site, Mr. Smith. Congratulations on your very specific and detailed question... considering you are brand new to the site. Here are the voting rules. This will answer the question you asked and the one you didn't ask.
02/16/2012 10:10:46 AM · #16
Originally posted by Kelli:

Depends on whether you want to take pictures you like, or take pictures for high scores. ;D


I meant on voting. Very few photos elicited a high score, from me, because I felt they didn't adhere to the description of the challenge. I was simply wondering what's the norm? Am I being too literal with respect to the challenge description?

CS
02/16/2012 10:15:34 AM · #17
If you read a certain book and I and many others read the same book, we will all have a slightly different vision of that book, it's the same with the challenges, just stay open minded.
02/16/2012 10:15:41 AM · #18
Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

Originally posted by Kelli:

Depends on whether you want to take pictures you like, or take pictures for high scores. ;D


I meant on voting. Very few photos elicited a high score, from me, because I felt they didn't adhere to the description of the challenge. I was simply wondering what's the norm? Am I being too literal with respect to the challenge description?

CS


Yes, I can see that. It shows on your profile page. Here's the thing, if you plan on becoming part of the site, entering shots and what not, then the old "do unto others" thing isn't a bad way to go. Some people are very literal. Literal can make for very boring. So follow your heart.
02/16/2012 10:16:20 AM · #19
Looking through for me it was about 50/50 between props and found did you not think so?
02/16/2012 10:17:42 AM · #20
Originally posted by Giles_uk:

Looking through for me it was about 50/50 between props and found did you not think so?


So if 50% of the people interpreted it one way, and 50% the other, does it really make either one wrong?
02/16/2012 10:17:44 AM · #21
Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

Originally posted by Kelli:

Depends on whether you want to take pictures you like, or take pictures for high scores. ;D


I meant on voting. Very few photos elicited a high score, from me, because I felt they didn't adhere to the description of the challenge. I was simply wondering what's the norm? Am I being too literal with respect to the challenge description?

CS


The interpretation is up for debate, from what I've seen around the site. I (personally) don't take the description SO literal. Only because it's all in how you define the word "creation" (for this particular challenge).

I think that if a photographer finds a prop, whether it's out in the field or hand made, the composition is still "their creation". They create the photograph, played off the lighting, etc.

And as for what Kelli said, that's something you need to think about when entering challenges. If you want high scores, FOLLOW THE RULES TO THE "T" (no pun intended with the letter challenge). Be completely literal about them. But, I think most of us shoot what we "like" rather than for the score. At least that's what I would do.

Good luck here, I am sure you will like it, as I am also relatively new to the site. I LOVE it here!
02/16/2012 10:20:35 AM · #22
Originally posted by Kelli:

Originally posted by Giles_uk:

Looking through for me it was about 50/50 between props and found did you not think so?


So if 50% of the people interpreted it one way, and 50% the other, does it really make either one wrong?


No but if he's taken a literal stance on creted vs found I was wondering if he'd thought they all didn't fit, and your post in the scores thread about influencing voters, your post about keeping a open mind and do unto others seemed very much like you were steering him.....

Vote as you see fit and By the rules
02/16/2012 10:20:35 AM · #23
Thanks ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' hahn23, I thought I looked most aspects of the website, but must have overlooked the one on voting. I've been surfing around here for about three weeks before signing up.

What if it's a good photo, in general, and bad photo in relation to the challenge at hand? Under the you should category it recommends you take this into consideration, but I don't want to be that person who crucifies the scores because of my literalness.

When I read the challenges, I like seeing what people come up with in relation to the literal interpretation of the challenge, rather than someone shoehorning in their favorite photo of the week, coming up with a caption trying to tie the two, and hoping for the best.

CS
02/16/2012 10:21:27 AM · #24
Also there are a number of people here that try and influence the voting by mentioning the vast number of entries that in their opinion don't meet the challenge, this happens all the time and it's usualy born out of high expectations on their own entries that are not doing as expected, it's best just to vote and participate in the current challenge thread by leaving your score ect.
02/16/2012 10:23:09 AM · #25
Originally posted by jagar:

Also there are a number of people here that try and influence the voting by mentioning the vast number of entries that in their opinion don't meet the challenge, this happens all the time and it's usualy born out of high expectations on their own entries that are not doing as expected, it's best just to vote and participate in the current challenge thread by leaving your score ect.

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