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09/17/2012 01:10:05 AM · #1
Looks pretty sweet for just under $2000 for a FF sensor.. The 11 AF points might be a bit limiting, but who knows until you use it.

Canon 6D
09/17/2012 01:11:33 AM · #2
Yeah saw those leaks... but why not buy a 5D2 instead?? What am I missing?
09/17/2012 01:19:49 AM · #3
Besides a little better fps at 4.5, better ISO which everthing should have that is newly released, and built in gps.....there is really no major difference from the 5D2. Missing nothing. Just bought the 5D2 and I couldnt be happier.
09/17/2012 01:25:26 AM · #4
Maybe I'm just crazy, but I would have been happier if it was a 12-15MP body with crazy low noise.

Still, nice body, I'm just not sure a $2000 body is really that great of a positioning. Seems like a $1500 FF body would have FLOWN from the shelves, but $2099 is just high enough to move it out of reach for the casual users.

*shrug* I still can't wait to try one of these out, fairly exciting stuff overall.
09/17/2012 01:25:39 AM · #5
I've been waiting on this since the rumors. To decide between this n the mkii. I like the built in wifi idea for tethering. But outside of that, does the AF issue on the MKii suck as bad as people complain? Because I may still pull the trigger on the mkii. Don't think I can wait till December. And the 6D just may suck.
09/17/2012 01:28:49 AM · #6
Originally posted by dmadden:

I've been waiting on this since the rumors. To decide between this n the mkii. I like the built in wifi idea for tethering. But outside of that, does the AF issue on the MKii suck as bad as people complain? Because I may still pull the trigger on the mkii. Don't think I can wait till December. And the 6D just may suck.


LOL, I think the AF on my 5Dc is pretty good in truth, and the MkII is supposed to be a little better.

I don't have any real measure, other than to say my 5D will still AF with a 2x tele and a 5.6 lens, meaning f/11 will still focus, and that's pretty darn impressive to me.
09/17/2012 01:36:26 AM · #7
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by dmadden:

I've been waiting on this since the rumors. To decide between this n the mkii. I like the built in wifi idea for tethering. But outside of that, does the AF issue on the MKii suck as bad as people complain? Because I may still pull the trigger on the mkii. Don't think I can wait till December. And the 6D just may suck.


LOL, I think the AF on my 5Dc is pretty good in truth, and the MkII is supposed to be a little better.

I don't have any real measure, other than to say my 5D will still AF with a 2x tele and a 5.6 lens, meaning f/11 will still focus, and that's pretty darn impressive to me.


Well that's good to hear. Considering most of what I normally shoot is close to 1.4 :]
09/17/2012 02:32:47 AM · #8
Originally posted by dmadden:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by dmadden:

I've been waiting on this since the rumors. To decide between this n the mkii. I like the built in wifi idea for tethering. But outside of that, does the AF issue on the MKii suck as bad as people complain? Because I may still pull the trigger on the mkii. Don't think I can wait till December. And the 6D just may suck.


LOL, I think the AF on my 5Dc is pretty good in truth, and the MkII is supposed to be a little better.

I don't have any real measure, other than to say my 5D will still AF with a 2x tele and a 5.6 lens, meaning f/11 will still focus, and that's pretty darn impressive to me.


Well that's good to hear. Considering most of what I normally shoot is close to 1.4 :]


i would think the AF on the MK2 would not be an issue unless you are doing sport/action shots
09/17/2012 02:33:26 AM · #9
Originally posted by dmadden:

I've been waiting on this since the rumors. To decide between this n the mkii. I like the built in wifi idea for tethering. But outside of that, does the AF issue on the MKii suck as bad as people complain? Because I may still pull the trigger on the mkii. Don't think I can wait till December. And the 6D just may suck.


For me, in the last week, from going from a crop sensor to full frame has given me a lot to catch up on as far as lighting and go to settings in manual mode per lighting situation and new perspectives. And through all of that I seemed to have assumed that AF is just as easy as it is with a crop sensor. But its not. Ive learned its AF is more particular and that just means I have to make sure the camera knows what I want to focus on rather than it just somehow knowing like my t1i did. I think thats where the "focus problem" really comes from is people not knowing what they are dong with a more advanced and particular AF system but maybe thats just me. I think in another week or two of shooting and Ill be profficient with it, no problem. So id leave the so called AF problem out of your decision.
09/17/2012 04:03:11 AM · #10
Canon EOS 6D preview
09/17/2012 04:47:14 AM · #11
Originally posted by smardaz:

Originally posted by dmadden:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by dmadden:

I've been waiting on this since the rumors. To decide between this n the mkii. I like the built in wifi idea for tethering. But outside of that, does the AF issue on the MKii suck as bad as people complain? Because I may still pull the trigger on the mkii. Don't think I can wait till December. And the 6D just may suck.


LOL, I think the AF on my 5Dc is pretty good in truth, and the MkII is supposed to be a little better.

I don't have any real measure, other than to say my 5D will still AF with a 2x tele and a 5.6 lens, meaning f/11 will still focus, and that's pretty darn impressive to me.


Well that's good to hear. Considering most of what I normally shoot is close to 1.4 :]


i would think the AF on the MK2 would not be an issue unless you are doing sport/action shots


I find it's the low light stuff where it struggles - hunts like mad. I've read it's to do with how the light gets split between viewfinder and sensor. I believe changing the focussing screen can help.
09/17/2012 04:57:11 AM · #12
EOS 6d released today
"Canon EOS 6D: Now you can take it all in. Canon has today announced the new EOS 6D Digital SLR camera, a versatile and compact mid-range Full-Frame camera offering a level of image quality, performance and creative options that serious photographers crave, but many have regarded as out of their reach."
09/17/2012 07:40:37 AM · #13
so much for December...

hopefully this drives down the prices of the 5d2.
09/17/2012 08:21:14 AM · #14
Very interesting news, and my first impression is that it's pretty much a 5D2 clone with a slightly newer sensor, and this spec comparison shows very little between them. If I hadn't already made the leap to a 5D2, I'd be seriously pondering a 6D right now...
09/17/2012 10:28:15 AM · #15
My initial response is ho-hum, especially in comparison to the Nikon D600. Now, all that could change dramatically based on performance. It's a new sensor, so there's a chance that Canon has upped the image-quality ante in ways that are not apparent from the specs. Only time will tell. In general, it's just good to see that the cost-of-entry into the world of full-frame 35mm DLSRs is finally starting to come down.
09/17/2012 10:44:20 AM · #16
Originally posted by Manic:

Very interesting news, and my first impression is that it's pretty much a 5D2 clone with a slightly newer sensor, and this spec comparison shows very little between them. If I hadn't already made the leap to a 5D2, I'd be seriously pondering a 6D right now...


The spec I saw last night had 1/8000. Now it's 1/4000. That's an issue for how I mostly shoot in daylight, gunning for DOF control. Think I may have to take my chances with the mkii.
09/17/2012 10:58:58 AM · #17
Originally posted by dmadden:

The spec I saw last night had 1/8000. Now it's 1/4000. That's an issue for how I mostly shoot in daylight, gunning for DOF control. Think I may have to take my chances with the mkii.


It does potentially limit you (slightly) in very bright situations, though I'd hardly consider this a problem. It's an indicator that the shutter has been cheapened, which is a concern. The flash sync speed is also listed as 1/180, which is slightly slower than the 1/200 of the 5D family. Now, it may well be that it's really the same, and the spec is just listed more realistically.
09/17/2012 11:00:24 AM · #18
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by dmadden:

The spec I saw last night had 1/8000. Now it's 1/4000. That's an issue for how I mostly shoot in daylight, gunning for DOF control. Think I may have to take my chances with the mkii.


It does potentially limit you (slightly) in very bright situations, though I'd hardly consider this a problem. It's an indicator that the shutter has been cheapened, which is a concern. The flash sync speed is also listed as 1/180, which is slightly slower than the 1/200 of the 5D family. Now, it may well be that it's really the same, and the spec is just listed more realistically.


Nikon did the same thing with the D600 FF lens. And they are priced about the same. I suppose you want entry level FF cameras you have to give up something.
09/17/2012 11:23:46 AM · #19
Originally posted by dmadden:

Originally posted by Manic:

Very interesting news, and my first impression is that it's pretty much a 5D2 clone with a slightly newer sensor, and this spec comparison shows very little between them. If I hadn't already made the leap to a 5D2, I'd be seriously pondering a 6D right now...


The spec I saw last night had 1/8000. Now it's 1/4000. That's an issue for how I mostly shoot in daylight, gunning for DOF control. Think I may have to take my chances with the mkii.


how is it only 1/4000? my 60D has 1/8000, so why cant this new 6D do it. my 60D also has a flash sync at 1/250.

something isnt adding up.


Message edited by author 2012-09-17 11:24:51.
09/17/2012 11:30:32 AM · #20
Originally posted by mike_311:


something isnt adding up.


I think it adds up pretty clearly.

Canon isn't doing this to save money - frankly, the bits and bobs don't add up to much really, and using higher quality parts wouldn't increase cost radically for Canon.

The reason Canon seems to be doing this isn't to save money, but rather to keep this camera aligned with the amateur photographer crowd, those who want great IQ, but don't need that last stop of shutter speed, or fast flash sync, or ... etc.

In the end, it seems that they're doing this to ensure that the people who are serious about photography move towards the 5D/1D line. Of course, that's just my opinion.
09/17/2012 11:36:39 AM · #21
then they should should have made the price lower, so amateurs could justify the cost.

Message edited by author 2012-09-17 11:37:29.
09/17/2012 11:56:47 AM · #22
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by mike_311:


something isnt adding up.


In the end, it seems that they're doing this to ensure that the people who are serious about photography move towards the 5D/1D line. Of course, that's just my opinion.


You have a point. Their trying to keep from cannibalizing sales their pro models. The tradeoff's aren't a big deal for me. If i could wait till december, I'd prob go for the newer 6d and live with less bells. I really just need to just get into fullframe.

09/17/2012 12:49:31 PM · #23
FWIW, the shutter differences could very well relate to cost reductions. Remember that a shutter for a 35mm sensor is a *lot* bigger than one for an APS-C sensor. It contains more than twice the material, therefore moving it as quickly/accurately is not easy.
09/17/2012 01:18:56 PM · #24
Originally posted by kirbic:

FWIW, the shutter differences could very well relate to cost reductions. Remember that a shutter for a 35mm sensor is a *lot* bigger than one for an APS-C sensor. It contains more than twice the material, therefore moving it as quickly/accurately is not easy.


What the max you could imagine on this, in terms of parts cost?

I'm betting there's no way it's even close to a $100 difference. My guess is that they're saving about $20 per unit on the shutter, at most.
09/17/2012 01:39:54 PM · #25
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by kirbic:

FWIW, the shutter differences could very well relate to cost reductions. Remember that a shutter for a 35mm sensor is a *lot* bigger than one for an APS-C sensor. It contains more than twice the material, therefore moving it as quickly/accurately is not easy.


What the max you could imagine on this, in terms of parts cost?

I'm betting there's no way it's even close to a $100 difference. My guess is that they're saving about $20 per unit on the shutter, at most.


Sure, but remember that if they are saving $20 on the shutter, it's more like $60 on the cost of the body by the time it gets to the consumer. Not a huge difference, but when you consider they made multiple decisions like this, the price difference may be hundreds.
Or look at it from the other direction; if they recognize that the price point must be $1999 in order to be competitive, a cost difference of $20 might represent a good chunk of their margin.

Message edited by author 2012-09-17 14:46:24.
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