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09/27/2012 11:14:29 AM · #26
Originally posted by skewsme:

Sorry but I can't equate "being challenged by the topic" to "doing what's expected". Obviously I'm arguing for creative interpretation and not snap-showing.


Boy, I hope you vote soon, my score is being affected by the not "doing what's expected" vote. :)

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09/27/2012 11:17:08 AM · #27
Originally posted by skewsme:

Originally posted by h2:

Originally posted by skewsme:

Originally posted by h2:

some challenges should be taken literally.

yeah they're such a drag

Depends on whether you want to be challenged by the topic or just looking for a place to show your snaps.

Sorry but I can't equate "being challenged by the topic" to "doing what's expected". Obviously I'm arguing for creative interpretation and not snap-showing.


I'm always puzzled by this...

How, exactly, do you propose that someone is creative with their interpretation without just being a topic-ignoring-shoehorner?

I mean, if the description says banana, then use a freaking banana... I saw lots of creativity - especially SemperMarine's SP, loved that one, great laugh.

I suppose I kinda view the challenge description/topics as being analogous to an assignment in school, or a work assignment. If I'm asked for a paper on biology, and I turn in a paper on geology, while arguing that I'm being creative, I'd bet on a pretty piss poor grade, and a lecture about it. If it was one of my subordinates, and I asked them for a report detailing work orders for the last six months, and they delivered a crayon drawing of a guy with a wrench, I'd probably laugh and start the termination paperwork.

Why is this so different? We have assignments, we shoot for those assignments, and try to follow the spirit of the thing... Honestly, if you feel the need to go right every time someone says left, then you have some serious issues.
09/27/2012 11:17:53 AM · #28
Originally posted by skewsme:

Originally posted by h2:

Originally posted by skewsme:

Originally posted by h2:

some challenges should be taken literally.

yeah they're such a drag

Depends on whether you want to be challenged by the topic or just looking for a place to show your snaps.

Sorry but I can't equate "being challenged by the topic" to "doing what's expected". Obviously I'm arguing for creative interpretation and not snap-showing.


That's because you're so good at it! I tried to be creative, but my brain sees things as they are, and can't seem to think out of the box. So I work with what I can. Others are so far out of the box, you never knew there was a box to begin with. Yours works. Ben's works. It's an extremely difficult thing to do well, and I'm finding that it's not something you can force. So you have to work within your limitations.

The abstract, funky challenges give me a chance to explore and grow. But trying to be what I'm not on the regular challenges isn't a lot of fun. I've tried. So I do what I do and explore my world and show it as I see it.

That's why this challenge was fun to peruse. It looked like other people explored parts of their world that they hadn't previously explored. It was fun to see what they found.
09/27/2012 11:48:00 AM · #29
Originally posted by Cory:

Why is this so different?


Because this isn't business, it's art we do for fun.
09/27/2012 11:59:01 AM · #30
Originally posted by JamesDowning:

Originally posted by Cory:

Why is this so different?


Because this isn't business, it's art we do for fun.


But it's not. Art we do for fun goes into our portfolio, or on Facebook/flicr/1X etc.

This is a themed contest - following the theme is supposed to be part of the fun.
09/27/2012 12:08:38 PM · #31
Losing chunks at a time

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09/27/2012 12:11:27 PM · #32
Fairly stable around 6.3

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09/27/2012 12:35:38 PM · #33
Originally posted by Cory:

Fairly stable around 6.3

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Still staying ahead of me, hmmm? The week is young -- there's still time.... mwhwhahahahahah.. cough cough hahahah! (I have to work on my evil laugh...)
09/27/2012 12:50:34 PM · #34
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by Cory:

Fairly stable around 6.3

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Still staying ahead of me, hmmm? The week is young -- there's still time.... mwhwhahahahahah.. cough cough hahahah! (I have to work on my evil laugh...)


Juuuust barely! Looks like we can have a bit of a competition for 12th place between us. ;)

09/27/2012 01:18:18 PM · #35
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by Cory:

Fairly stable around 6.3

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Still staying ahead of me, hmmm? The week is young -- there's still time.... mwhwhahahahahah.. cough cough hahahah! (I have to work on my evil laugh...)


Juuuust barely! Looks like we can have a bit of a competition for 12th place between us. ;)


You're on! And I think we're going for 14th...
09/27/2012 03:10:41 PM · #36
Back to 6.30

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TY very much whoever just gave me that 10. :)

Message edited by author 2012-09-27 15:13:38.
09/27/2012 03:12:26 PM · #37
Originally posted by Cory:

Back to 6.30

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6.2687 losing ground on ya'.
09/27/2012 03:27:08 PM · #38
Originally posted by skewsme:


Sorry but I can't equate "being challenged by the topic" to "doing what's expected". Obviously I'm arguing for creative interpretation and not snap-showing.


Is there a single standard that ought to be used for all challenges?

It seems to me that the varied challenges ask us to stretch into new areas, sometimes that is towards gallery art shots, sometimes it is product shots. If you are hired to shoot something "doing what is expected" is the least you can do; you can be creative, but you have to do the assignment, get the required shots and hopefully be a bit creative.

If your style is emotive, black and white with artfully blurring, doing a catalog shot for a watch advertisement may not scratch your creative itch, but it will certainly be challenging considering how far into unfamiliar territory it will take you. If all the challenges allow me to create a cohesive portfolio, I has been over creative in my interpretation of the challenges. Disparate challenges call for disparate approaches and results.
09/27/2012 03:30:22 PM · #39
Hey Brennan! Long time no see!
09/27/2012 03:59:01 PM · #40
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by JamesDowning:

Originally posted by Cory:

Why is this so different?


Because this isn't business, it's art we do for fun.


But it's not. Art we do for fun goes into our portfolio, or on Facebook/flicr/1X etc.

This is a themed contest - following the theme is supposed to be part of the fun.


Well, I do it for fun.
09/27/2012 09:54:34 PM · #41
If art is on the same level and in the same category as bananas, then Oliver and Cory's arguments make perfect sense.

Don't put art in your photo if it's not explicitly part of the challenge.

Don't leave art on the counter for a week or it will attract fruit flies.

I can't hear you, there's art in my ear.
09/27/2012 10:48:46 PM · #42
I thought this thread was about Metal on Metal entries LOL Mine is exactly what the challenge asked for - quite literally metal on metal - and my score is 5.2 :(
09/27/2012 10:58:22 PM · #43
Originally posted by JamesDowning:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by JamesDowning:

Originally posted by Cory:

Why is this so different?


Because this isn't business, it's art we do for fun.


But it's not. Art we do for fun goes into our portfolio, or on Facebook/flicr/1X etc.

This is a themed contest - following the theme is supposed to be part of the fun.


Well, I do it for fun.


so, basically, we all all a bunch of masochists! (pain = fun) ;-)

i'm a bit over 6, so i am pleased to be performing above my average (that's my ongoing goal)

oh, and a fav!

-m

Message edited by author 2012-09-27 22:59:22.
09/28/2012 03:04:17 AM · #44
Originally posted by posthumous:

If art is on the same level and in the same category as bananas, then Oliver and Cory's arguments make perfect sense.

Don't put art in your photo if it's not explicitly part of the challenge.


That's rhetorical and doesn't make any sense. The argumentum e contrario is not valid in this case. As you well know, art is not something that can be placed in a photograph. But feel free to make your photo artistic, as long as there's a banana (two metal objects, negative space, a candid portrait - you get the point) visible. Some tried, but either they failed or there's simply not the public on dpc that honors it.
09/28/2012 03:31:41 AM · #45
Originally posted by skewsme:



Sorry but I can't equate "being challenged by the topic" to "doing what's expected". Obviously I'm arguing for creative interpretation and not snap-showing.


Sadly, on occasion the creative interpretation resides solely in the mind of the creator, with the ensuing results that the efforts do not garner the expected score.

I have no problem with creativity, but when I send my subordinates out to garner information about a specific situation, I would get miffed if they brought back a goat.

No one is dissuading you from your interpretation of the challenge topic...the problem lies in the understanding of same by the masses and how receptive they are to it.

Ray

Message edited by author 2012-09-28 03:33:01.
09/28/2012 08:59:09 AM · #46
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by skewsme:



Sorry but I can't equate "being challenged by the topic" to "doing what's expected". Obviously I'm arguing for creative interpretation and not snap-showing.


Sadly, on occasion the creative interpretation resides solely in the mind of the creator, with the ensuing results that the efforts do not garner the expected score.

I have no problem with creativity, but when I send my subordinates out to garner information about a specific situation, I would get miffed if they brought back a goat.

No one is dissuading you from your interpretation of the challenge topic...the problem lies in the understanding of same by the masses and how receptive they are to it.

Ray


Hey look at the bright side. At least you got a goat.
09/28/2012 09:23:56 AM · #47
Originally posted by JamesDowning:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by JamesDowning:

Originally posted by Cory:

Why is this so different?


Because this isn't business, it's art we do for fun.


But it's not. Art we do for fun goes into our portfolio, or on Facebook/flicr/1X etc.

This is a themed contest - following the theme is supposed to be part of the fun.


Well, I do it for fun.


Ahhh.. the eternal DPC question. Always asked but never able to be answered to everyone's satifaction. My take is to imagine asking a random stranger to guess the challenge topic from looking at just the photo. After 2-3 guesses, I'd give them the answer. If they smile and nod, then it meets the challenge, if they frown or look perplexed than it doesn't. I give out a lot of 1's for DNMC. That is my method, but I have been here long enough to know people's opinions vary greatly on the subject.

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Probabably a little less metal in my main subject than the challenge calls for :)
09/28/2012 10:25:26 AM · #48
Originally posted by Cory:

Man! It's hard to be clever within the character limit for Metal on Metal...

Hope this is a clear enough title.

Show us your Metal on Metal scores!


I would have gone with "Do you have the mettle to medal with metal?" But yours is good too!

Message edited by author 2012-09-28 10:29:23.
09/28/2012 10:25:55 AM · #49
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09/28/2012 02:17:46 PM · #50
Originally posted by Cory:

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You're really starting to pull away -- I was at 6.24 when you posted.

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