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04/02/2013 09:05:31 AM · #1
And sorry i dont reread entire threads every time I post.. and i certainly dont remember previous discussions on duotones as this is the first I have ever entered......i just remember film days.....in the dark room....in the dark ages....back in the day....lolllol.....playing with chemicals......I just got "Silver FX-pro" and the duo tri quad multi tones and features are far out! ( The digital age just caught up to me a couple years ago.... ). Im more excited about getting my digital pix to look like old film....lololol... the film effects!!!!!... so laugh you nodding head....wobble wobble!!!! Lol....
04/02/2013 08:55:59 AM · #2
I have NEVER dnmc -ed anyone's entry and never will....just to clear up any paranoid fears.... I barely squeak through without breaking rules myself....stretching parameters and pushing the edges of a challenge description.... THAT'S the fun and creative side ......leave the stickling to the sticklers but technical terms should be just that...defined clearly...... with each newdpc description come obvious questions.....so one could say this challenge actually includes duotones, b&w and sepia. Thanks BrennanOB and GeneralE....... and this discussion should come up every time as there are plenty.of neodpcers and first time duotone entrants I am sure....who would and need clarification.... carry on GeneralE and BrennanOB! Just as I thought....and great examples! Thanks!
04/01/2013 05:33:02 PM · #3
Originally posted by glad2badad:

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Originally posted by glad2badad:

Ha! This is so funny. Can't generate much conversation now on tones, shades of, etc... now, but wait until the challenge starts and the scores thread will be full of what people think the photos should or should not be. :-) Guess it's not much fun to discuss ahead of time, eh?

+1
04/01/2013 05:04:05 PM · #4
Originally posted by gcoulson:

Everyone is looking for reasons to DNMC these days it seems.


IMHO it would be darned near impossible to DNMC any of the entrants, but there are a few who used the duotone technique to make a strong B&W image better by converting them into a duotone, and those few ought to be bumped up. Some of my favorites are beautifully informed by the additional colors, though on a quick glance them might look like B&W, the cooler or warmer tomes show off those greens and reds. Make sure you really give what might seem like a DMNC a long long look before you decide to hammer it.
04/01/2013 04:31:29 PM · #5
' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/30000-34999/30049/800/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_831514.gif', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/30000-34999/30049/800/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_831514.gif', '/') + 1) . ' From the first page of this thread ... a week ago. LOL!

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Ha! This is so funny. Can't generate much conversation now on tones, shades of, etc... now, but wait until the challenge starts and the scores thread will be full of what people think the photos should or should not be. :-) Guess it's not much fun to discuss ahead of time, eh?

04/01/2013 04:06:59 PM · #6
Everyone is looking for reasons to DNMC these days it seems.
04/01/2013 03:58:39 PM · #7
I was wondering why my score starting tanking, now I know. Anyway, quick note to self, don't use a light color that people can mistake for white.
04/01/2013 03:58:24 PM · #8
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by Alexkc:

If you check the duotone feature in Photoshop you can choose the light color and the dark color, so I guess that certainly black & white is a duotone.


If you are printing white ink on grey paper, that would be true. Printing black ink on white paper is a monotone, as in one ink color. If you could pass an image through one plate on a traditional printing press, and be done, then it is a monotone. 2 plates make a duotone, 3 plates make a tritone ect.

If you see B&W as duotone, what is monotone? A blank piece of paper?


There's surely truth is what you say, but are we starting from white paper creating our images? It seems that more and more we are searching something to say that an image DNMC and I have to say that this time black & white was even mentioned in the challenge description. Of course you are not a DNMC nazi but we have a lot of these discussions lately
04/01/2013 03:51:19 PM · #9
Brennan is right. A duotone refers to printing using separate "masters" for each ink color; the color of the substrate (paper) does not count. Photographically there is no such thing as a duotone, the equivalent (what a printed duotone tries to emulate) is a black and white print which then has the overall color altered chemically.

FWIW this is an old image which I made as a tri-tone using Black, Cyan, and Yellow as my "ink" colors:

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04/01/2013 03:48:11 PM · #10
For the purposes of this challenge, check the challenge description ;-)
And FWIW, we have this discussion every single time there is a duotone challenge - check this thread for example //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=910981&page=2#5533494 (and this link points specifically to an eloquent explanation from the Bear).

Message edited by author 2013-04-01 15:50:47.
04/01/2013 03:32:09 PM · #11
Originally posted by Alexkc:

If you check the duotone feature in Photoshop you can choose the light color and the dark color, so I guess that certainly black & white is a duotone.


If you are printing white ink on grey paper, that would be true. Printing black ink on white paper is a monotone, as in one ink color. If you could pass an image through one plate on a traditional printing press, and be done, then it is a monotone. 2 plates make a duotone, 3 plates make a tritone ect.

If you see B&W as duotone, what is monotone? A blank piece of paper?
04/01/2013 03:06:14 PM · #12
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

I have always thought that B&W was a mono-tone. That is a single color of ink, on white paper. Duo-tone uses 2 colored inks (yes, black is a color in printing) on white paper. If you use black ink and white paper and add in 2 more colors of ink, that would be a tri-tone. The white of the paper is not counted since it is the base on which the ink is applied.


If you check the duotone feature in Photoshop you can choose the light color and the dark color, so I guess that certainly black & white is a duotone.
04/01/2013 02:43:27 PM · #13
I have always thought that B&W was a mono-tone. That is a single color of ink, on white paper. Duo-tone uses 2 colored inks (yes, black is a color in printing) on white paper. If you use black ink and white paper and add in 2 more colors of ink, that would be a tri-tone. The white of the paper is not counted since it is the base on which the ink is applied.

Message edited by author 2013-04-01 14:45:53.
04/01/2013 02:37:06 PM · #14
b/w is a duotone
but yes - rest of conversation probably best to let lie because it will turn into a discussion of current entries/voting before long
04/01/2013 02:33:46 PM · #15
or did I just do something wrong.....lololo we dont talk about this now? or can we talk about technique without talking about the pictures in the challenge..... if I faux pas I am tre
desole!!!!! That's why I hesitate to "forum".....not good with reading rules.......:-)
04/01/2013 02:22:15 PM · #16
This one is hard to judge....I think...this challenge.......so many that are clearly not duotone but are beautiful shots....some are tritone, quadtone and some just black and white.

I think part of the interesting thing in viewing these one after the other is to see that I am developing a personal taste for some of the tones and quite a slight distaste for some of the others.

Didn't think it was going to be like that just looking at the thumbs. Once again though, the processing does not necessarily make for a good photo....can't take a half decent shot thinking it will improve with a duotone process....... and not everyone or everything looks good duotoned......

again, I am NOT concerned with scores and numbers I look for the overall effect

any one else have an opinion?
03/31/2013 11:53:53 PM · #17
Originally posted by pixelpig:

It's hard to say, without seeing it, but probably not. A BW image with a splash of color is not a duotone, IMHO.


That would be a tritone no? So yes, agreed.
03/31/2013 10:11:06 PM · #18
Thank you. Agreed.
03/31/2013 09:59:30 PM · #19
It's hard to say, without seeing it, but probably not. A BW image with a splash of color is not a duotone, IMHO.
03/31/2013 09:31:17 PM · #20
No one?
03/31/2013 01:51:33 PM · #21
It's not the same...

Was more like thinking loudly

Very tempting though!
03/31/2013 01:48:29 PM · #22
Originally posted by Tiberius:

Quick question.

If desaturate all the colors and keep one green, let's say, will the final image be a duotone?

I'm also thinking of this one

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I'm waiting on an answer to this also, but I'm thinking it's not the same thing. Here's something I found while searching, although it's not from DPC:
//www.flickr.com/groups/duotoned/

03/31/2013 11:56:11 AM · #23
Quick question.

If desaturate all the colors and keep one green, let's say, will the final image be a duotone?

I'm also thinking of this one

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03/30/2013 05:47:47 PM · #24
I,m finding it so hard to make it not look flat
03/30/2013 01:02:15 PM · #25
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

I also agree that duotones tend to make things flat. This one has fixed all that.

Actually the whole point of using duotones (in printing) is that the second color helps add depth and texture to what would otherwise be a somewhat flat halftone (black and white) image. If your duotone looks "flatter" than the grayscale image you started with then something doesn't sound right.


It might be because in printing it's additive color, while on the monitor screen it's subtractive color. The light is doing different things. If you wanted to emulate the 4 colors of grey printing process used on AA's work on your monitor screen, you can't. You're not starting out with a clean sheet of white paper, you're starting with a BW conversion. With paint or ink, black is never real true black, if it reflected no light then you couldn't see it, haha. IMHO trying to emulate the result of a printing process on the screen is a lot of work for nothing. Maybe I just don't get it.

That doesn't mean I'm not trying it, I am. It just makes me grumpy.
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