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07/12/2013 10:35:33 AM · #51
Originally posted by fldave:

Stats: You have rated 81 of 81 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.6790.

I see some really great images in this challenge... whether mimicking or in the spirit of "New Happiness."
If you choose to create your own style for a "style" challenge, then be prepared for the fallout.


Yep. 2.8 and apparently falling. Now that I see the other entries I know why and I don't disagree. I still love the picture though. I may need to start second guessing my "oh this works" thought process though.
07/12/2013 10:49:22 AM · #52
Peaked at 6.5

Now

Votes: 15
Views: 49
Avg Vote: 5.8667
Comments: 2
07/12/2013 11:07:49 AM · #53
You have rated 80 of 80 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.8000.

I deserve a 4.5. Problem is I am on 4.1 LOL!
07/12/2013 01:06:13 PM · #54
Originally posted by mitalapo:

Originally posted by Cory:

Do take some time though to see if there is anything you can connect to the topic. Still, if you have to work that hard, then it didn't really meet the challenge did it?

No, no, no. It actually did meet the challenge, while challenging the voter, so an even higher score is due.


Nonsense. Explain yourself.
07/12/2013 01:28:52 PM · #55
Makes perfect sense to me.
07/12/2013 02:37:07 PM · #56
The challenge was a great idea Cory. I spent hours looking for a good subject (and I got a bad sunburn too, lol). Thank you! It was a lot of fun.
07/12/2013 02:43:43 PM · #57
Originally posted by beatabg:

The challenge was a great idea Cory. I spent hours looking for a good subject (and I got a bad sunburn too, lol). Thank you! It was a lot of fun.


Most welcome, of course, the real thanks goes to Pug-H for sharing this with us in the first place, and of course to Angus for having given us such a happy gift.

As for me? Quite Happy.

Votes: 21
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Avg Vote: 6.4762
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07/12/2013 02:45:34 PM · #58
Originally posted by skewsme:

Makes perfect sense to me.


Any chance you could translate it into something rational the rest of us could understand?

Perhaps I am wrong, but if an image doesn't meet the challenge, then it doesn't meet the challenge. To claim that by not meeting the challenge, you've somehow met the challenge better than anyone else is ludicrous.
07/12/2013 03:12:58 PM · #59
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by skewsme:

Makes perfect sense to me.


Any chance you could translate it into something rational the rest of us could understand?

Perhaps I am wrong, but if an image doesn't meet the challenge, then it doesn't meet the challenge. To claim that by not meeting the challenge, you've somehow met the challenge better than anyone else is ludicrous.


To me that's like trying to make a challenge a free study, but it's been said many times.
And thank you Pug-H, Angus and Cory!
07/12/2013 03:19:44 PM · #60
let me give you a sample
CHALLENGE monastery
i enter a pic with 2 monks drawing water from a well
in a forest no monastery in sight

you will give me a low score
if you would have gone a bit deeper than you would
have realized there is a monastery there
because where do you think those 2 monks come from?
so there is an invisible presence here what you have to grasp

Message edited by author 2013-07-12 15:21:01.
07/12/2013 03:36:31 PM · #61
Originally posted by cutout:

let me give you a sample
CHALLENGE monastery
i enter a pic with 2 monks drawing water from a well
in a forest no monastery in sight

you will give me a low score
if you would have gone a bit deeper than you would
have realized there is a monastery there
because where do you think those 2 monks come from?
so there is an invisible presence here what you have to grasp


In your example the connection seems clear to me, but there are images of animals and fields in the New Happiness challenge that do not appear to connect in any way to the MacDonald images.
07/12/2013 03:43:39 PM · #62
ah but you didnt know the reason he took those pic ,was that
his dog was so enchanted by those colours that he barked whenever he spotted them

and only stopped after macdonalds took a pic of it:-)
so the connection is as clear as glass
in fact you could argue that his beloved collie made the pic
i forgot the collies name,
i think it was google or something like that

Message edited by author 2013-07-12 15:49:37.
07/12/2013 03:45:34 PM · #63
Originally posted by cutout:

let me give you a sample
CHALLENGE monastery
i enter a pic with 2 monks drawing water from a well
in a forest no monastery in sight

you will give me a low score
if you would have gone a bit deeper than you would
have realized there is a monastery there
because where do you think those 2 monks come from?
so there is an invisible presence here what you have to grasp


I don't discount connections like that - in fact I look for them, and love them.

But, the more fair analogy would be a photo titled 'monks at the well' and instead showed me a picture of two utility workers going down a manhole.
07/12/2013 03:46:47 PM · #64
Originally posted by cutout:

ah but you didnt know the reason he took those pi ,was that
his dog was so enchanted by those colours that he barked whenever he spotted them

and only stopped after macdonalds took a pic of it:-)


ROFL, I do love your madness Jan.

Probably won't ever be able to vote on the images like you feel I should, but I do enjoy them very much.
07/12/2013 03:46:57 PM · #65
Originally posted by CBalck:

In your example the connection seems clear to me, but there are images of animals and fields in the New Happiness challenge that do not appear to connect in any way to the MacDonald images.


And that's exactly what I meant. I don't give low scores for something where I actually see a connection (like the monks example). Thanks for assuming though.

Message edited by author 2013-07-12 15:49:36.
07/12/2013 03:48:22 PM · #66
Originally posted by CBalck:

Originally posted by cutout:

let me give you a sample
CHALLENGE monastery
i enter a pic with 2 monks drawing water from a well
in a forest no monastery in sight

you will give me a low score
if you would have gone a bit deeper than you would
have realized there is a monastery there
because where do you think those 2 monks come from?
so there is an invisible presence here what you have to grasp


In your example the connection seems clear to me, but there are images of animals and fields in the New Happiness challenge that do not appear to connect in any way to the MacDonald images.


Actually, I don't feel the connection is that clear at all. If there was no further clarification in the notes, and if the challenge was Monastery, and not Monastery Life, I would say it was a rather tangential connection and would be likely receive DNMC feedback, with matching scores. I'm all for pushing the boundaries of interpretation, but we can't ALSO complain about low scores if our experiment doesn't go over as planned. In other news, challenges have been won by an image that did not strictly comply to the challenge description because they were outstanding images on their own.

But back to this challenge. I like a challenge where you take something that is potentially mundane and boring and make art of it. So thank you Cory et al.
07/12/2013 03:48:27 PM · #67
Originally posted by Cory:



But, the more fair analogy would be a photo titled 'monks at the well' and instead showed me a picture of two utility workers going down a manhole.


That would be a great interpretation. Very witty. I wouldn't see it as a dnmc at all.
07/12/2013 03:48:30 PM · #68
You have rated 80 of 80 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 80 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.9000.

Done with that now.. I think that's at least near the highest average score I've ever given out.

Enjoyed the images very much everyone, thanks for creating such a happy challenge - we needed it!

I'm quite ecstatic about my score.

Votes: 22
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Avg Vote: 6.5000
Comments: 3
07/12/2013 03:59:52 PM · #69
i clearly see the connection of my shot to the challenge but it appears most others don't. oh well.
07/12/2013 05:41:14 PM · #70
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by mitalapo:

Originally posted by Cory:

Do take some time though to see if there is anything you can connect to the topic. Still, if you have to work that hard, then it didn't really meet the challenge did it?

No, no, no. It actually did meet the challenge, while challenging the voter, so an even higher score is due.


Nonsense. Explain yourself.

"...if you have to work that hard..." implies that after all the voter did find the connection. Hence, the photo really did meet the challenge in a non obvious way. In my book, an extra pointage is due.
07/12/2013 05:46:40 PM · #71
Originally posted by cutout:

ah but you didnt know the reason he took those pic ,was that
his dog was so enchanted by those colours that he barked whenever he spotted them

and only stopped after macdonalds took a pic of it:-)
so the connection is as clear as glass
in fact you could argue that his beloved collie made the pic
i forgot the collies name,
i think it was google or something like that

Now this is nonsense - aren't dogs color blind?
07/12/2013 05:48:58 PM · #72
Originally posted by mitalapo:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by mitalapo:

Originally posted by Cory:

Do take some time though to see if there is anything you can connect to the topic. Still, if you have to work that hard, then it didn't really meet the challenge did it?

No, no, no. It actually did meet the challenge, while challenging the voter, so an even higher score is due.


Nonsense. Explain yourself.

"...if you have to work that hard..." implies that after all the voter did find the connection. Hence, the photo really did meet the challenge in a non obvious way. In my book, an extra pointage is due.


I do understand what you're saying a little better now, but let me ask you this:

If a client asked you to create an image for him, and the assignment was described as the challenge was, would the client be pleased with the result?

It's fun to have a subtle connection, and it's honestly a wonderful thing if done correctly - but it has to be obvious enough to immediately conjure up the ideas that are associated closely with the challenge's nature.

If I have to look really, really hard, and guess that maybe you have a connection because I can imagine that maybe this thing that you did has some deeper meaning that tangentially is connected to the challenge description, then you really didn't achieve your objective IMO.
07/12/2013 05:50:09 PM · #73
Originally posted by mitalapo:

Originally posted by cutout:

ah but you didnt know the reason he took those pic ,was that
his dog was so enchanted by those colours that he barked whenever he spotted them

and only stopped after macdonalds took a pic of it:-)
so the connection is as clear as glass
in fact you could argue that his beloved collie made the pic
i forgot the collies name,
i think it was google or something like that

Now this is nonsense - aren't dogs color blind?


ROFL, sure. But of course Jan's a mad genius, so we expect that from him. ;)

I think Jan's dogs see in extra-color. :D

Message edited by author 2013-07-12 23:38:27.
07/12/2013 05:58:45 PM · #74
No, dogs are not colorblind in the sense that they see more than just black, white, and gray. However, the color range they perceive is limited compared to the spectrum we see.

To put it in very basic terms, the canine color field consists mostly of yellows, blues, and violets. "Human" reds, greens, and oranges are not distinguishable to dogs and instead appear somewhere on their yellow to blue spectrum.

The reason? The retina of both species contains two types of photoreceptors, rods and cones. The human eye, however, contains more types of cones while the canine eye has more rods and no fovea, which is responsible for sharp visual detail in humans. The result is that dogs have superior night vision and are better at tracking movement than we are, but see fewer colors and shapes and objects appear in much less detail.

The bottom line is that tossing an orange ball onto green grass may look like yellow against yellow to your dog, but his acute motion-detection ability will help him fetch it anyway.

NOTE: Above text was copied from a dog site of some kind.

Message edited by author 2013-07-12 18:00:02.
07/12/2013 06:09:21 PM · #75
Originally posted by Cory:

... but let me ask you this: If a client asked you to create an image for him, and the assignment was described as the challenge was, would the client be pleased with the result?

let me ask back then: If you were at the museum, where the walls are covered with obvious, trivially deciphered images you breeze through in 10 minutes, would you be happy knowing you just payed $15 for the ticket?
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