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06/03/2014 06:58:37 PM · #1
Well, what do you think?
06/03/2014 07:06:22 PM · #2
I'd say he's done pretty well. How about you?
06/03/2014 07:23:28 PM · #3
I would have preferred single payer over Obamacare, and some action to restrict automatic weapons. But otherwise, he's been as good a president as we've had in many years.

It's nice to have someone who is educated and intelligent in office. Though Bill Clinton always impressed me with his knowledge when I've heard him speak off the cuff (during interviews and a TED conference.

And my son's A Capella group got to sing for him (briefly) at the white house:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152004213229858&set=a.10150219234389858.326081.6824984857&type=1&theater

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06/03/2014 07:26:40 PM · #4
Not American, so staying out of this discussion. But will have fun following the thread :-)
06/03/2014 07:55:39 PM · #5
Up twinkles
06/03/2014 08:07:46 PM · #6
Add to that I think first lady is more public person and have been engage in lot of activities out side of white house and have no relationship with white house. At the same time I also felt that Mr. President is doing good and I hope things continue like this.
06/03/2014 09:19:48 PM · #7
are you just outing all of the obamaphiles and obamaphobes or what
06/03/2014 09:25:22 PM · #8
I love this president and I love America too! That should keep the drones away, right??
06/03/2014 09:53:59 PM · #9
Originally posted by yanko:

I love this president and I love America too! That should keep the drones away, right??


Btw NSA, I was being sarcastic. It's all good.
06/03/2014 10:28:23 PM · #10
Originally posted by yanko:

Btw NSA, I was being sarcastic.

No need to tell them -- I'm pretty sure they now have a way to analyze your posts, and from the stroke rate and the degree of impact of your fingers on the keys to deduce your state of mind for comparison with the textual content ...
06/04/2014 09:15:30 AM · #11
*I will be watching from the sidelines as well*

Due to military family in the services and overseas right now, its very touchy subject for me.. zippin mouth

or shall I say, duckt taping my fingers :-))

Message edited by author 2014-06-04 09:16:11.
06/09/2014 07:31:20 PM · #12
Nobody seems to be able to keep afloat in our political system for two terms. Obama is no exception. Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama all suffered in their second term with various scandals or bumbles which eroded their popularity in the eyes of our ADHD electorate.

I believe he will go down as an intellectual president whos weakness was overanalysis which sometimes had him compromise when he shouldn't have or held firm when he should have sought common ground.

I'm happy I voted for him, but he was not the second coming of Jesus some had foretold.

He is a better president than Hillary would be and I'm not sure I can think of a Republican that I have high hopes for doing better either.
06/10/2014 12:44:12 AM · #13
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Nobody seems to be able to keep afloat in our political system for two terms. Obama is no exception. Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama all suffered in their second term with various scandals or bumbles which eroded their popularity in the eyes of our ADHD electorate.


I don't think it has to do with ADHD, it is a much older concept; "Familiarity breeds contempt".

In a case like the AHCA ( Affordable Health Care Act if you like the idea, Obamacare if you don't) both sides are angry with Obama for different reasons. To the right it is an overreach of Federal power forcing us to buy products that we should be free to buy or not buy as we wish, and more reason for them to keep on hating him. To the left it is an institutionalization of the wasteful and corrupting influence of for profit insurance companies in health care when every other model in the first world is better, so they are very disappointed that Obama used so much political capital to fight for a plan from the Heritage Foundation designed to protect the profits of institutions that no one needs, to intermediate between us and our medical care.

Personally I am pissed that he hasn't been better, and things like making Tom Wheeler head of the FCC make me furious. For those who don't know him Wheeler worked as a venture capitalist and lobbyist for the cable and wireless industry before being appointed to watch over the public interest and protecting us from the very industry he has been so very well paid by. He is the man who will destroy net neutrality, and insure that profits are placed before the public good. And my "socialist" president put him in place to do it.
06/10/2014 08:22:00 AM · #14
really???? How well has Obama done????

I think that he will go down as one of the worst president this nation has ever seen. A president that has been plagued with scandal and controversy. In looking back at the things he has passed and the way he has passed them. The amount of laws he has broken. I have not yet found one of his policies that I like. I have never experienced a politician that I didn't agree with occasionally.

I am not a socialist.....and we have a socialist president that likes to spend my money on programs that I am against while openly lying to the American people about it.

ok I am off my soapbox.
06/10/2014 08:56:04 AM · #15
Obama is not socialist. America is absolutely not "socialist."

By no means is Obama perfect, not defensible always, nor is anyone. The Congress, is a pathetic, do nothing group that is scared to be "primaried" by the tea party. We waste our time on useless trivial "scandals,"(in the context of the political right gainsaying anything the president does, simply because the name "Obama" is attached to it- instead of focusing on real problems- controlling gun deaths, immigration, global warming/climate change, the affordability of college as well as education reform, among many other topics. Wow- there is a great deal to do-

The real question is- who will America choose as the next president, someone to push the issues forward, or go backwards?

06/10/2014 09:36:30 AM · #16
I understand that nobody is perfect. Obama is no exception. However I have struggled to find just one thing this man has done as president that I agree with
06/10/2014 10:18:36 AM · #17
Originally posted by cowboy221977:

I understand that nobody is perfect. Obama is no exception. However I have struggled to find just one thing this man has done as president that I agree with


Really? Not ONE thing?

125. Along with Congressional Democrats, not only reauthorized families of fallen soldiers to be able to visit when the body arrives at Dover AFB, but also provided funding for it. Ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers. //nyti.ms/glqN66 //bbc.in/gWSSkA

126. Funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. //1.usa.gov/huhqfo

127. Provided active combat troops with better body armor. //bit.ly/hzSv2h

128. Created Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order to improve the quality of their medical care. //1.usa.gov/f4yaxW

129. Put an end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one.) //nyti.ms/e2YQ7Q

130. Along with Congressional Democrats, supported and signed Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better medical care for veterans. //1.usa.gov/fN4ur1

131. Along with Congressional Democrats, ushered through largest spending increase in 30 years for Department of Veterans Affairs, with money to go to improved medical facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. //1.usa.gov/gY8O3x

132. Created the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs. //bit.ly/epwUQY

133. Initiated and signed a recruitment and employment plan to get more veterans into government jobs. //bit.ly/b48coi

134. Oversaw a $4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more mental health professionals. //bit.ly/gjzTxX

135. Signed the Military Spouses Residency Relief Act, which ensures that spouses of military personnel who are forced to move because their spouse is posted for military duty will be able to avoid state taxes in their temporary residence. //bit.ly/1Gh0NX

136. Issued an Executive Order to improve access to mental health care for veterans, military personnel and their families. //1.usa.gov/TP7PVZ125. Along with Congressional Democrats, not only reauthorized families of fallen soldiers to be able to visit when the body arrives at Dover AFB, but also provided funding for it. Ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers. //nyti.ms/glqN66 //bbc.in/gWSSkA

126. Funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. //1.usa.gov/huhqfo

127. Provided active combat troops with better body armor. //bit.ly/hzSv2h

128. Created Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order to improve the quality of their medical care. //1.usa.gov/f4yaxW

129. Put an end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one.) //nyti.ms/e2YQ7Q

130. Along with Congressional Democrats, supported and signed Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better medical care for veterans. //1.usa.gov/fN4ur1

131. Along with Congressional Democrats, ushered through largest spending increase in 30 years for Department of Veterans Affairs, with money to go to improved medical facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. //1.usa.gov/gY8O3x

132. Created the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs. //bit.ly/epwUQY

133. Initiated and signed a recruitment and employment plan to get more veterans into government jobs. //bit.ly/b48coi

134. Oversaw a $4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more mental health professionals. //bit.ly/gjzTxX

135. Signed the Military Spouses Residency Relief Act, which ensures that spouses of military personnel who are forced to move because their spouse is posted for military duty will be able to avoid state taxes in their temporary residence. //bit.ly/1Gh0NX

136. Issued an Executive Order to improve access to mental health care for veterans, military personnel and their families. //1.usa.gov/TP7PVZ

//pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/
06/10/2014 10:26:25 AM · #18
Originally posted by cowboy221977:

I have struggled to find just one thing this man has done as president that I agree with

Then you've never tried. Bin Laden and Gaddafi dead, GM and Chrysler are not. Obama ended the worst recession of our lifetime, got us out of Iraq, offered tuition assistance to soldiers and tax credits for hiring veterans, barred credit card companies from raising rates without notice, stopped insurance companies from dropping coverage if you get sick, required tobacco companies to disclose ingredients, only signed laws that expand gun rights (disappointingly), created an independent board of inspectors general to look for waste and fraud in government spending, and by November 2011 had already served longer than any president in decades WITHOUT a scandal.
06/10/2014 12:36:25 PM · #19
Nobody cares about Benghazi?
06/10/2014 12:54:56 PM · #20
Originally posted by Mike:

Nobody cares about Benghazi?


Fox News does.

They did not seem to care about the 39 attacks or attempted attacks on U.S. embassies and embassy personnel during Bush's term that resulted in a total death toll of 87. But they care deeply about Benghazi. Chris Stevens was a classmate of mine, and a good guy and I'm sorry he was killed but he knew the risks when he signed up for the job, and I fail to see how his death was greatly different from the other 87, or for that matter much different from the 31,000 uniformed service members and military contractors who have died Arabia since 9-11.

Fox News' coverage of Benghazi is one of the purest fabrications of disinformational propaganda since Goebbles left the job. It serves as a book end to the Whitewater/Vince Foster investigations.
06/10/2014 12:59:03 PM · #21
Originally posted by Mike:

Nobody cares about Benghazi?

I'm more concerned about Iran-Contra ...
06/10/2014 01:16:19 PM · #22
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1st off I was / am against the pullout of Iraq. I think that is a huge mistake that is going to encourage the Taliban etc. to rebuild stronger than before.

I was against all of the bailouts. This too big to fail thing was wrong. I was against the bank bailouts under bush and the car bailouts under Obama. It is not the govmts place to get involved in private business.

As far as controversies and scandals...lets se if I can name a few. Benghazi, IRS, NSA, Refusing to produce a birth certificate....the list goes on.

OK and then there is OBAMACARE. An absolute fiasco. I have watched my insurance deductible triple and my premiums skyrocket. Yes there are a few lines out of that 2000+ page law that are good like not getting dropped if you get sick.

On gun rights he fought to get an assault weapons ban (thankfully he lost) However states like New York have gone through with their own bans. I find it funny that there is now a SAFE act compliant ar-15. The only thing different is the way it looks.
06/10/2014 01:17:46 PM · #23
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Mike:

Nobody cares about Benghazi?

I'm more concerned about Iran-Contra ...


Did you catch Oliver North (author of the deal that sent Missiles to Iran in exchange for the hostages) talking about how Obama should be investigated for this Bergdahl prisoner exchange business? The irony gets so deep you could drown in it when he demanded a Congressional investigation, asking “Was there a ransom paid? Did the government of the United States, either directly or indirectly, finance a terrorist organization?”

Have you no shame Mr. North? Have you no shame?
06/10/2014 01:35:00 PM · #24
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Did you catch Oliver North ...

No one did ... though I do remember how, even after being convicted, he managed to get off on one of those much-decried "legal technicalities" ... I also wonder how much his various government pensions pay -- no doubt more than I make ...

BTW, I don't think the missles were exchanged for the hostages (that was a separate, secret deal to swing the election), but for a secret stash of cash which could be used to fund the Nicaraguan Contras, which Congress had specifically prohibited.

Message edited by author 2014-06-10 13:47:03.
06/10/2014 01:35:05 PM · #25
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Mike:

Nobody cares about Benghazi?

I'm more concerned about Iran-Contra ...


Did you catch Oliver North (author of the deal that sent Missiles to Iran in exchange for the hostages) talking about how Obama should be investigated for this Bergdahl prisoner exchange business? The irony gets so deep you could drown in it when he demanded a Congressional investigation, asking “Was there a ransom paid? Did the government of the United States, either directly or indirectly, finance a terrorist organization?”

Have you no shame Mr. North? Have you no shame?


+1

Yes, that made me "laugh out loud". :D
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