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09/15/2015 04:50:50 PM · #1
But much more fun. More of a chance to develop your photographers eye. More practice with photography. Why we are all here.
09/15/2015 04:37:56 PM · #2
I was also suggesting that if the OP wanted to specify a list of "available" textures, they could pick a few from that library, rather than gathering/posting new ones. The current suggestion to shoot one's own is even less limiting ...
09/15/2015 02:06:13 PM · #3
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

What about providing us with 4 or 5 "interesting" textures and requiring us to do something with one of them?

You could also specify using something from the DPC Textures Library if you want some kind of limitation -- texture used could be easily referenced in the notes ...


"Limitation"? you call that "limitation"? have you seen the number of textures in there?
I'm sure that anyone will find at least 1 texture which works with his/her image.
09/15/2015 01:44:43 PM · #4
how about an in camera double exposure? for me this is easier - more athletic and less cerebral - than post melding.
09/15/2015 01:24:50 PM · #5
Yes. I agree. Second wording. :D Only keep in the "lenient" part. Images will NOT be DQd for how the texture is applied to the image.
09/15/2015 01:21:21 PM · #6
I vote for the second wording -- let's not add to what's already a gray area. As that version says, the editing should follow the Advanced rules as written regarding the use of textures, with the special rule being that you must shoot the texture yourself during the challenge submission, and you MUST use a texture.
09/15/2015 01:05:34 PM · #7
Originally posted by pixelpig:

Use another photograph taken during the challenge to add texture to your original.


Title: Texture Overlay

Description: as above.

Ruleset: Advanced

FLAGGED Special Rule: Your image MUST contain a texture overlay, shot by you during the challenge time-frame. For this challenge only, we will be a little more lenient on how aggressive your texture may be.

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Does this work?

Alternatively: You MUST find and photograph your own texture overlay during the challenge period, your image MUST use the overlay, and you MUST provide the original if validation is requested by SC.

Message edited by author 2015-09-15 13:07:04.
09/15/2015 12:39:52 PM · #8
I'd honestly need to see the individual images to understand what is and isn't composited/overlaid - which like I said, gets confusing when you want it to exist in Advanced.
09/15/2015 11:28:33 AM · #9
as opposed to an overlay that was used to add new elements to the image (that are not texture, but additional items of interest.

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Not a pseudo-composite.
09/15/2015 10:53:00 AM · #10
' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/60000-64999/63218/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_918581.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/60000-64999/63218/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_918581.jpg', '/') + 1) . '

a pseudo-composite

Message edited by author 2015-09-15 11:28:59.
09/15/2015 10:21:50 AM · #11
And here's where it gets difficult - it's either a composite or it's not, and if it's a composite in Advanced then there needs to be specific wording as to what that means without making so complicated to understand that we debate it more than we shoot for it. If the goal is to create an overlay that could add what would be considered new elements to the shot I would keep it along those lines without going as far as composite. Perhaps the special rule could read something like,

"Your overlay texture may add what would normally be considered new elements to the photo provided they do not fully obscure/replace content from the primary image as in a composite."
09/15/2015 09:47:28 AM · #12
' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/60000-64999/63218/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_702319.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/60000-64999/63218/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_702319.jpg', '/') + 1) . '
09/15/2015 09:36:15 AM · #13
So, then shall I ask Bear to change the title to "Pseudo-composite with Overlay"? I like it. No description needed.
09/15/2015 09:09:58 AM · #14
Originally posted by jomari:

Originally posted by pixelpig:

Use another photograph taken during the challenge to add texture to your original. It should be perfectly legal under Advanced rules.

We could all use a little practice doing this, right?


This was the OP suggestion. How about we do this first. Then, with all due respect, throw the other idea in as a different challenge later on.


I have no problem with that. All I'd ask, as I read through this, is that however this gets written up it's done in such a way that we don't run into the stuff we did during the side-by-side adventure. With the "so, can we also have a litte more leeway in this one to ALLOW the texture to become a (more) prominent feature?" suggestion we're now running the razors edge between simply adding textures and making pseudo-composites in an Advanced Editing challenge.
09/15/2015 08:46:32 AM · #15
Originally posted by pixelpig:

Use another photograph taken during the challenge to add texture to your original. It should be perfectly legal under Advanced rules.

We could all use a little practice doing this, right?


This was the OP suggestion. How about we do this first. Then, with all due respect, throw the other idea in as a different challenge later on.
09/15/2015 08:36:41 AM · #16
Found this site in no time offering "Totally free textures for everyone!"

I'd be happy to choose 5, or better yet have the OP choose 5.
09/15/2015 08:32:55 AM · #17
Originally posted by jomari:

I still prefer to have people find their own overlays for once, and can't, for the life of me, see why that should be a problem.


I don't think it would be a problem, I think it would be interesting to see how a group of photographers pick from and use a limited number of shared images. Is there one that appeals to more folks than others? Is there one that no one wants to bother with? How differently are the same textures utilized? Which uses are most creative.

I think having a common element across the group of photos allows for the viewer to judge not just the photograph but the photographer's use of a common element. If 10 chose the same texture and 9 used it the same way, do I want to reward the 10th?

There are a million textures out there, so this becomes yet another free study challenge. Narrowing the scope forces the photographer to think ahead since they have to use one of these textures in a photograph instead of having to find one that works with a photograph they've already taken.

09/14/2015 10:48:14 PM · #18
Originally posted by jomari:

I still prefer to have people find their own overlays for once, and can't, for the life of me, see why that should be a problem.

Or maybe I could provide my own overlay and 'borrow' a main photo.


haha! the idea that "any old texture" will do is a way of discounting the technique, limiting it to a "trick" in photoshop.
09/14/2015 08:34:14 PM · #19
Originally posted by jomari:

I still prefer to have people find their own overlays for once, and can't, for the life of me, see why that should be a problem.

Or maybe I could provide my own overlay and 'borrow' a main photo.


ha! good one!
09/14/2015 08:32:52 PM · #20
Originally posted by jomari:

I still prefer to have people find their own overlays for once, and can't, for the life of me, see why that should be a problem.

Or maybe I could provide my own overlay and 'borrow' a main photo.


ha.
09/14/2015 08:11:48 PM · #21
I still prefer to have people find their own overlays for once, and can't, for the life of me, see why that should be a problem.

Or maybe I could provide my own overlay and 'borrow' a main photo.

Message edited by author 2015-09-14 20:13:35.
09/14/2015 06:47:17 PM · #22
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

What about providing us with 4 or 5 "interesting" textures and requiring us to do something with one of them?

THAT's an interesting idea. Any of you folks wanna get together and find those 5 textures?

We already have 420 textures available in the Library -- why not pick from those?


Because there some really cool ones out there. :)
09/14/2015 06:42:19 PM · #23
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

What about providing us with 4 or 5 "interesting" textures and requiring us to do something with one of them?

THAT's an interesting idea. Any of you folks wanna get together and find those 5 textures?

We already have 420 textures available in the Library -- why not pick from those?
09/14/2015 06:00:38 PM · #24
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

What about providing us with 4 or 5 "interesting" textures and requiring us to do something with one of them?

THAT's an interesting idea. Any of you folks wanna get together and find those 5 textures?


I haven't been around much lately, but this would be fun. Second eye surgery is on thursday, though, so I'd have a bit of time when I'm not around (it took a bit of time for the eye to adjust, and the other is still rather glarey)
09/14/2015 05:55:45 PM · #25
Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

What about providing us with 4 or 5 "interesting" textures and requiring us to do something with one of them?

THAT's an interesting idea. Any of you folks wanna get together and find those 5 textures?
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