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03/22/2020 08:33:38 AM · #26
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I did just find out that what I do, automotive service & repair, is considered an essential service, so my job is intact for a while yet anyway.

That also means I'm out here in the big, bad world....


In that case, be as careful as you can. Use those sanitizers on the cars you have to work on BEFORE you touch or get into them.

I did not mean my post to have been flippant. This is serious, but lets deal with it in a rational way, that was all I was trying to say.
03/22/2020 12:20:45 PM · #27
I would like to suggest we sprinkle in some archival Extended editing theme challenges. Given it is harder to get out and get creative with my camera, an Extended editing challenge using old images would give me a creative outlet while cooped up.
03/22/2020 12:37:23 PM · #28
Originally posted by markwiley:

I would like to suggest we sprinkle in some archival Extended editing theme challenges. Given it is harder to get out and get creative with my camera, an Extended editing challenge using old images would give me a creative outlet while cooped up.

+1
03/22/2020 12:53:12 PM · #29
+2

It is going to get worse before it gets better. And with so many restrictions now and more to come, I think this is a great idea.

P.S. Anyone want 2 teenage boys, they are free, but you have to home-school them for the rest of the year!!!! =P
03/22/2020 12:57:12 PM · #30
+3

(No to the boys, Juliet. :D Hang in there! I homeschooled our four for twelve years. You've got this! )

I suggest... even with the archivals... that we have topics that could be shot during this time. Folks are supposed to be staying home for at least 15 days. So, they can't go out and shoot boats if they don't have any in their archives... or landscapes, etc.

Maybe stuff like Glass or Metal or Liquid or Chair or...??
03/22/2020 01:32:25 PM · #31
+4

To late, already sent the boys your way!! The way James drives, should be there late afternoon for dinner! xox
03/22/2020 08:05:35 PM · #32
Since most ppl are under house arrest, why not make the archival one week instead of two, it doesn’t take that long to find a photo and edit it. Also extended editing for March April would be excellent in archival.
03/23/2020 11:14:57 AM · #33
Originally posted by Neat:

Since most ppl are under house arrest, why not make the archival one week instead of two, it doesn’t take that long to find a photo and edit it.

Because it gets totally confusing :-)
03/23/2020 05:44:01 PM · #34
Originally posted by marnet:

The flu is more difficult to control as the viruses mutate every year, that's why a new vaccine is need for each flu season. In many countries vaccines for flu are free for over 65 years old or are covered by health insurance for younger people. Why such small take up of vaccination? Probably a combination of laziness and anti-vaccine sentiment.

Once there is a vaccine for Covid-19 we will need it only once like for measles as the virus does not mutate according to the current scientific knowledge.

Last I heard (from Dr. Fauci of the CDC) it does mutate, as do all RNA viruses, though those mutations do not necessarily affect either the propensity to infect or severity of symptoms.

For some perspective:
Originally posted by U.S. Centers for Disease Control:


CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 38 million flu illnesses, 390,000 hospitalizations and 23,000 deaths from flu.

"Flu season" in the US began in October, so that averages out to over 125 deaths per day, and we have a flu vaccine. Where's the panic outrage about that?
03/23/2020 07:11:15 PM · #35
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by U.S. Centers for Disease Control:


CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 38 million flu illnesses, 390,000 hospitalizations and 23,000 deaths from flu.

"Flu season" in the US began in October, so that averages out to over 125 deaths per day, and we have a flu vaccine. Where's the panic outrage about that?


General, I went with the assumption that 500,000 people will die of the flu globally this year, and I took the average. Let's compare that to COVID-19:

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This is why we're talking about COVID-19 and not the flu.

Message edited by author 2020-03-23 19:12:13.
03/23/2020 07:15:02 PM · #36
You peeps sound like what's on my TV all day... every day.

03/23/2020 08:01:24 PM · #37
I don't have a TV and haven't watched it for 22 years.
03/24/2020 12:33:08 AM · #38
Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by U.S. Centers for Disease Control:


CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 38 million flu illnesses, 390,000 hospitalizations and 23,000 deaths from flu.

"Flu season" in the US began in October, so that averages out to over 125 deaths per day, and we have a flu vaccine. Where's the panic outrage about that?


General, I went with the assumption that 500,000 people will die of the flu globally this year, and I took the average. Let's compare that to COVID-19:

' . substr('https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET1GZV4XQAc2_m3?format=png&name=small', strrpos('https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET1GZV4XQAc2_m3?format=png&name=small', '/') + 1) . '

This is why we're talking about COVID-19 and not the flu.


Someone grab this man a hammer... Because he just nailed it.
03/24/2020 01:13:10 AM · #39


Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Neat:

Since most ppl are under house arrest, why not make the archival one week instead of two, it doesn’t take that long to find a photo and edit it.

Because it gets totally confusing :-)


I am sorry, I love you Bear, you know I do. I lost your dog, you forgave me, I support 92% of everything you say.

But you are behind in all of this. This is a rapidly changing time, a beyond fluid time for everyone. (As the woke people say)

This is going to get so much worse, before it get's better.

I have been watching this since December, and as soon as it hit England, one of the largest hubs of international travel, I knew this was beyond serious. America right now, is going to go into free fall, it is showing up all ready. And with Trump saying he is going to going to open up business ASAP. Basically No.

It might be confusing for some, but the reality is, this shit is going to get bad. Already, there is a lock downs on whole country's across the world. It will happen in here, or let's hope it happens here.

If you want this site to remain functional, then you will allow archival to happen more.

This is not going away, it will get worse. The more test kits that are available, the higher the numbers will get. America will go into free-fall.

03/24/2020 05:40:49 AM · #40
"This is not going away, it will get worse. The more test kits that are available, the higher the numbers will get. America will go into free-fall". [/quote] JulietNN

I disagree with your reasoning Juliet. The more test kits that are available and the more tests that are run will certainly increase the KNOWN cases of COVID-19. That serves several statistical purposes. 1)It identifies the reality of how many actual cases are existing, expanding, or diminishing. 2)It allows for better isolation of the hotspots which will allow for better control through isolation, moving needed supplies, health professionals and attention to the areas of concern. 3) It will most definitely lower the ratio of deaths to total cases of COVID-19. This will prove that the virus is not as lethal as everyone feared. When people see that although it is highly contagious, it can be controlled and hopefully reduce the number of relative deaths everyone will RELAX, listen to advice and stop the unnecessary hysteria. 4) The USA is a step ahead in identifying medications that may help. If this turns out to be effective it would be a game changer.

There is a lot of misinformation being disseminated. I suggest listening to ALL the experts. This is a moving target and changes hourly. When we start seeing the incidence of recovered individuals increasing versus new cases it will indicate that we are getting things under control. Here is an article which I feel gives a good assessment of the actuality of COVID-19

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/why-this-nobel-laureate-predicts-a-quicker-coronavirus-recovery-were-going-to-be-fine/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_inset_1.1

Message edited by author 2020-03-24 06:06:32.
03/24/2020 07:07:03 AM · #41
Thank you Larry.

Most of you probably realise that more people die of influenza in the space of three months than have died of the corona virus, but that’s hardly mentioned.

An interesting read,
Italians dying of Covid

And especially take note of this;

On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says.

[i]But there are other factors that may have contributed to Italy’s fatality rates, experts say. This includes a high rate of smoking and pollution - the majority of deaths have been in the northern region Lombardy region, which is notorious for poor air quality.
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Message edited by author 2020-03-24 20:02:05.
03/24/2020 07:24:42 AM · #42
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Message edited by author 2020-03-24 07:28:06.
03/24/2020 07:38:44 AM · #43
Thanks, Larry, for the link. I hope all countries will follow China's approach and will get the Covid-19 infection under control in a similar time-frame. It will all come down to how disciplined people will be in slowing down the spread of infection.
03/24/2020 08:28:19 AM · #44
Lots of people are dying from the flue, lots of people are dying from poverty, lots of people die from trafic related accidents, they now estimate that over 8 million people die every year from air pollution related heath issues. Does this mean we shouldn’t try our best to protect as many people as we can from this virus? Should we also be trying to do more in other areas to try and save lives? Is profit more important than health? or is profit only more important when it’s not your own or loved ones heath?

There was a lady who lost her husband over here in France who said that this virus was a cruel and wicked thing, if we as humans were considered as being a virus to this earth, how cruel in a scale of ten do you think we are?
03/24/2020 09:35:21 AM · #45
Ran across this article in what appears a foodie web site. It seems comprehensive and well thought out though I am not familiar with this source.
03/24/2020 10:55:08 AM · #46
Originally posted by jagar:

Lots of people are dying from the flue, lots of people are dying from poverty, lots of people die from trafic related accidents, they now estimate that over 8 million people die every year from air pollution related heath issues. Does this mean we shouldn’t try our best to protect as many people as we can from this virus? Should we also be trying to do more in other areas to try and save lives? Is profit more important than health? or is profit only more important when it’s not your own or loved ones heath?

There was a lady who lost her husband over here in France who said that this virus was a cruel and wicked thing, if we as humans were considered as being a virus to this earth, how cruel in a scale of ten do you think we are?


The sincere goal of our leaders is to save lives. One must take into account other factors associated with the problem. If we don’t get this pandemic under control, but at the same time get the economy back in gear how many lives will be lost from an economic collapse as a result of a depression which would result in collateral damage. That being loss of life from malnutrition, suicide, stress related illnesses, homicides, etc. the goal is to minimize the negative by finding a formula that can neutralize both terrible outcomes. It is a statistical numbers game.
03/24/2020 01:23:05 PM · #47
Originally posted by JulietNN:



If you want this site to remain functional, then you will allow archival to happen more.


I rarely shoot out of my home or yard anyway. I've always done this.

So, nothing's changed for me, and I don't need archival. In fact, I can't reach any of my images from before January at present, anyway.

03/24/2020 01:38:29 PM · #48
Originally posted by GolferDDS:

It is a statistical numbers game.

But it's so confusing ... ;-)

"Statistics don't lie, but statistics don't die, either."
--Phil Ochs, Talking Plane Disaster

How To Lie With Statistics
03/24/2020 03:52:18 PM · #49
Originally posted by JulietNN:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Neat:

Since most ppl are under house arrest, why not make the archival one week instead of two, it doesn’t take that long to find a photo and edit it.

Because it gets totally confusing :-)

I am sorry, I love you Bear, you know I do. I lost your dog, you forgave me, I support 92% of everything you say.

But you are behind in all of this. This is a rapidly changing time, a beyond fluid time for everyone. (As the woke people say)

If you want this site to remain functional, then you will allow archival to happen more.

Oh, ARCHIVAL is gonna happen every week (next one is tonight). What's not changing is that all challenges currently run for a 2-week submission period, If we sprinkle 1-weekers amidst 2-weekers then people get confused and miss challenge deadlines sometimes.
03/24/2020 05:04:31 PM · #50
I am confused anyway, but I think that's because I am myself archival.
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