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11/04/2004 08:38:28 PM · #1
I can't wait any longer, I gotta have a DSLR!

Here is my shopping list:
*Canon 20D
*Canon 18-55mm EF-S kit lens
*Canon 70-200mm f/4 L USM lens
*Tamrac 5277 (M.A.S.) Expedition 7 Photo Backpack - Black
*Tripod Mount Ring A for 70-200mm f/4L (this one hurts a bit, it's 120$ extra)
*Tiffen 67mm UV Haze1 Glass filter
*Sandisk 1GB Ultra II CF card
*Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens

Amounts to just under 3000$ with shipping to Iceland

What do you think about this kit? (I have 2 batteries that will work and two 256MB CF cards and a tripod)
11/04/2004 08:57:33 PM · #2
It looks like a nice starter package. I'd replace the Tiffen filter with one made by B + W or Heliopan. The EF 70-200mm is very good glass, even at f/4. It would only make sense to match the filter quality.
11/04/2004 08:59:56 PM · #3
Do it! The 20D is sweeter than a Georgia peach!! Course I'm partial because my new love just arrived today and I've been happily oogling it since. That and devouring the manual...

Sounds like a good kit but hold off on the tripod collar/mount ring thing. I asked about the 70-200mm lens in another thread and many folks said it just wasn't necessary. Allocate those funds to the battery grip instead.

Have fun :-)
11/04/2004 09:08:16 PM · #4
wooooot wooooot! welcome onboard.

Hint: don't get the tripod collar tripod ring ... the F4 lens only weighs 1.5 pounds.
11/04/2004 09:27:02 PM · #5
If you can afford it I would go for the 17-85 EFs lens, and not the 18-55.

I got an 18-55 for free with mine (ordered a 17-85 kit, they ran out, so they gave me the 18-55 kit and added the other lens etc, for the same price).

Admittedly, as I have the 17-85 so would not use the 18-55 but I can not say I was impressed with the one play I had with it. Very plasticy feeling indeed.
11/04/2004 09:38:07 PM · #6
I just impactient to recieve mine! i have ordered it and now i'm just sitting down and waiting! seems like next week i'll have mine! :)
11/05/2004 02:05:59 AM · #7
Originally posted by Discraft:

I just impactient to recieve mine! i have ordered it and now i'm just sitting down and waiting! seems like next week i'll have mine! :)


Spend time now with the wife and kids/girlfriend/parents because once you get it, they won't see you anymore. It consumes all your free time. Gotta love it.
11/05/2004 02:15:41 AM · #8
I ordered mine too and the 580ex flash. Now the waiting game. I'll have the flash and grip on Monday but the camera has to wait till they get them in stock again. I guess that I will just have to plug away on the 10D still... :(
11/05/2004 05:40:03 AM · #9
but does anybody know if the 70-200mm f/4 is usable mounted on a camera that is mounted on a tripod? (camera on the tripod, no lens ring)?
11/05/2004 05:45:29 AM · #10
Originally posted by tyrkinn:

but does anybody know if the 70-200mm f/4 is usable mounted on a camera that is mounted on a tripod? (camera on the tripod, no lens ring)?

The f4 version weighs 1.56 lb and is 6.8" long. That doesn't seem too heavy, but the weight is fairly far forward, so I'm not sure I'd try it.

How often do you expect to use your 70-200 on a tripid, is the question..

Edit: Figures from B&H.

Message edited by author 2004-11-05 05:46:26.
11/05/2004 07:15:56 AM · #11
I'd like to be able to use at least a monopod when shooting at the far end. I use my tripod a lot (especially when doing aurora shots and indoor setups). I guess I can use the low-grain high-iso to boost the speed a bit to skip the tripod.

Well, I went ahead and bought the kit, skipped the tripod ring and bought a B+W filter for the 70-200. Can't wait, no sleep this weekend....
11/05/2004 08:35:47 AM · #12
Welcome to the 20D club! That's a awesome package. I'd consider dropping the mount ring, change filter and re-evaluted if you want 18-55 or 17-44. :-)

Good luck, and happy shootin'!
11/05/2004 09:28:01 AM · #13
sorry folks that this is on Icelandic, it´s more easier for me to write it on icelandic :D

Tyrkinn,, flottur listi, en ég verð að benda þér á að taskan kostar þarna 200$ + vaskur og tollur, ef að töskur séu í tollflokki 0. Þá ertu komin með 20þús kall í tösku. Ég keypti samskonar tösku, miðað við myndina, frá Lowepro í beco á 11900 ISK þannig þú ættir að skoða það. Ég hef mikið verið að skoða verðmun og þegar kemur að hlutum sem kosta um 20þús kall og minna hér heima eru þeir oft ódýrari hér heima en að fá þá senda heim.

Líka ef þú notar réttu "tæknina" með kaupa e-h af þessu hér og annað úti. T.d. með að spara þér 50mm 1.8 linsuna (færð hana þér bara síðar að utan) ættiru að geta fengið þér 70-200mm f2.8 og verið að borga sama heildar verð. Þá þarftu ekki að kaupa Tripod-hringin þvi hann er innifalin og þú ert að fá linsu sem eru heilu ljósopi neðar sem getur verið þrælskemmtilegt.

Vildi bara benda á þetta því ég var í svipuðum pælingum og þú
11/05/2004 04:58:38 PM · #14
Originally posted by russi:

sorry folks that this is on Icelandic, it´s more easier for me to write it on icelandic :D

Tyrkinn,, flottur listi, en ég verð að benda þér á að taskan kostar þarna 200$ + vaskur og tollur, ef að töskur séu í tollflokki 0. Þá ertu komin með 20þús kall í tösku. Ég keypti samskonar tösku, miðað við myndina, frá Lowepro í beco á 11900 ISK þannig þú ættir að skoða það. Ég hef mikið verið að skoða verðmun og þegar kemur að hlutum sem kosta um 20þús kall og minna hér heima eru þeir oft ódýrari hér heima en að fá þá senda heim.

Líka ef þú notar réttu "tæknina" með kaupa e-h af þessu hér og annað úti. T.d. með að spara þér 50mm 1.8 linsuna (færð hana þér bara síðar að utan) ættiru að geta fengið þér 70-200mm f2.8 og verið að borga sama heildar verð. Þá þarftu ekki að kaupa Tripod-hringin þvi hann er innifalin og þú ert að fá linsu sem eru heilu ljósopi neðar sem getur verið þrælskemmtilegt.

Vildi bara benda á þetta því ég var í svipuðum pælingum og þú


That means the 20d is awesome. I speak icelandic, trust me.
11/05/2004 05:26:54 PM · #15
We've had ours a week now and love it!! Couldn't wait for the weekend to be here so we could spend some time using it. Kinda drives home the fact that working for a living takes up waaay too much time.
11/05/2004 05:32:00 PM · #16
Originally posted by tyrkinn:


*Sandisk 1GB Ultra II CF card

While the 20D is probably fast enough camera, I'd seriously consider 80x CF card. How fast is the Ultra II?
11/05/2004 05:33:57 PM · #17
Originally posted by Gauti:

Originally posted by tyrkinn:


*Sandisk 1GB Ultra II CF card

While the 20D is probably fast enough camera, I'd seriously consider 80x CF card. How fast is the Ultra II?

I can fire at 5fps till my 512 card is filled up.
11/05/2004 05:37:51 PM · #18
Originally posted by hsteg:

Originally posted by Gauti:

Originally posted by tyrkinn:


*Sandisk 1GB Ultra II CF card

While the 20D is probably fast enough camera, I'd seriously consider 80x CF card. How fast is the Ultra II?

I can fire at 5fps till my 512 card is filled up.


you are pure evil

:)

my 10D can only do about 9 at 3.3 fps before slowing (alot) down in RAW
11/05/2004 05:41:40 PM · #19
Just for the record I had the 70-200 f/4 for a while and the lens is light enough to mount the camera on a tripod and not worry about the tripod ring, no problem.
11/05/2004 05:58:07 PM · #20
Originally posted by Gauti:

Originally posted by tyrkinn:


*Sandisk 1GB Ultra II CF card

While the 20D is probably fast enough camera, I'd seriously consider 80x CF card. How fast is the Ultra II?


Ultra II is 65x, but that doesn't always count. The size of the card matters and there is a difference between brands, and also there is a difference between cards if you're shooting in JPEG or RAW. Here's a good link for CF speeds:
//www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-7303

As you can see, the Sandisk Ultra II card 1gb is one of the fastest, and the difference between the top 10 cards or so isn't noticeable. I have two 1gb and I'm very happy about the speed.

Congrats on your order, happy cliczzz!
11/05/2004 07:43:26 PM · #21
That is great to hear Dan, I just don't like spending 130$+shipping+24.5%tax on a what seems to be a very simple over priced item. Great to know I can still use it on a tripod.
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