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01/02/2005 08:53:27 PM · #1
comments/critiques welcome...

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edit: 100% crops, adjusted curves in both.

Message edited by author 2005-01-02 21:00:09.
01/02/2005 09:08:26 PM · #2
100% crop?
I thought 100% crop means the image is cropped to show the actual pixels, this doesn't seem to be the case here...
01/02/2005 09:09:21 PM · #3
Nice shots, great color in the city lights. Strangely enough, I like the light pollution you captured, makes it interesting.
01/02/2005 09:16:49 PM · #4
oh I guess that would be no crop just resized ;-) sorry
01/02/2005 09:20:23 PM · #5
Pittsburgh??

Very nice reflections and mood. I like it.

Edit: after a second look, I would have cropped the sky much closer to the skyscrapers. You'd lose that grey atmosphere and get a more balanced canvas. Just a thought.

Message edited by author 2005-01-02 21:29:28.
01/02/2005 09:25:47 PM · #6
thanks...yeah it's pittsburgh.
01/02/2005 09:32:51 PM · #7
Be nice if they were sharper. These hand-held? Good "atmosphere" though.

Robt.

01/02/2005 09:47:03 PM · #8
Originally posted by bear_music:

Be nice if they were sharper. These hand-held? Good "atmosphere" though.

Robt.


No, they weren't handheld, I used a tripod. I think maybe something was lost when I shrunk them down so small. Here's one that's 740 pixels...

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It was windy though but honestly, I don't see any shake at all.
01/02/2005 10:13:18 PM · #9
I think they look very nice.

I would try the shoot again on a clear night so you do not get all the lights reflecting on the clouds.
01/02/2005 10:40:03 PM · #10
Yeah...and next time I think I'll go for a longer exposure and maybe 100 ISO. The noise is pretty close to non existant to be honest, but there is *some* there. I'm sure neat image would fix what is there, but I haven't given it a shot.

My new camera bag is kind of a pain...but I guess that's the price you pay to lug around a DSLR -- I can't imagine what it's going to be like once I have a couple lenses and an external flash, extra battery, and all those other things that I need.
01/02/2005 10:40:12 PM · #11
I think they are very good. It is hard for this kind of photo to really look great at the scale we have to post here, I think your larger one on PBase looks much better.

Photos tend to loose a bit of sharpness when resized, you might try using the Unsharp Mask, after resizing, at something like 80% with a Rdius of .9, or there abouts, and see if you like what you see.
01/02/2005 10:41:34 PM · #12
Originally posted by scottwilson:

I think they are very good. It is hard for this kind of photo to really look great at the scale we have to post here, I think your larger one on PBase looks much better.

Photos tend to loose a bit of sharpness when resized, you might try using the Unsharp Mask, after resizing, at something like 80% with a Rdius of .9, or there abouts, and see if you like what you see.


Thanks for the tips...you're right, it's definately a photo best viewed at least a bit bigger anyway.
01/02/2005 10:59:17 PM · #13
Don't give up. Keep practicing and you will get the hang of it.

Just kidding ;)

They look great! Someday I hope to be able to take photo's as good as you do.

They both look great.
jp
01/02/2005 11:10:19 PM · #14
I really like both of these shots, the second one a little better because of the more dynamic composition. I think the "softness" really adds to the appeal of the shots for me, and the color is beautiful. Very, very nice photos.
01/02/2005 11:29:48 PM · #15
Something you might want to try next time you're up there... do a few shots in a row and try making a panorama out of 'em. That's a really good spot to do it from that overhang on Mt. Washington -- you can get everything from The Point over into Oakland and so forth. Nearly impossible to get all in one shot, but something that would make a cool panorama!
01/02/2005 11:41:59 PM · #16
i don't know enough about it to really comment and say if that's what's going on (esp. since i can't say i've personally noticed it yet) - but i've read that longer exposures can lead to more light diffraction and thus less sharp images. not sure how severe this may be, but i just remember reading about lens tests and how many lens peak in sharpness around f/8-f/11, because it lets just about the right amount of light in (but not necessarily the proper depth of field, which is why we sometimes would prefer to use f/32 or whatever else).. i assume this is related somehow to exposure time, but maybe i'm wrong and it's only related to aperture.. i slept too much through physics class to know! :p
01/02/2005 11:47:26 PM · #17
Originally posted by brianlh:

i don't know enough about it to really comment and say if that's what's going on (esp. since i can't say i've personally noticed it yet) - but i've read that longer exposures can lead to more light diffraction and thus less sharp images. not sure how severe this may be, but i just remember reading about lens tests and how many lens peak in sharpness around f/8-f/11, because it lets just about the right amount of light in (but not necessarily the proper depth of field, which is why we sometimes would prefer to use f/32 or whatever else).. i assume this is related somehow to exposure time, but maybe i'm wrong and it's only related to aperture.. i slept too much through physics class to know! :p


It is in fact just the aperture that effect diffraction, not the time for the exposure. The optimum F number depends on the lens, larger cameras (film sensor) tend to use large F numbers when shooting.
01/02/2005 11:53:42 PM · #18
Thanks for all the comments and tips everyone.

Alan, I was just randomly shooting...then I got the idea to do like 3 shots in a row for a panorama...shot number one and looked at my camera to catch the quick preview -- and noticed it had started raining a little more than I felt comfortable with so I packed up.

As far as the sharpness issue, I didn't feel it needed sharpened, but I do see what you mean on the 640 pixel photos. I think it musta lost something when I downsized it right before I saved.
01/03/2005 05:18:17 PM · #19
I like the shots...I would definitely shoot again on a cold clear night. There won't be light reflecting off the clouds. I would also try shooting early moring during sunrise as you are facing east.
01/03/2005 05:30:18 PM · #20
Originally posted by BADDBOYY21:

I like the shots...I would definitely shoot again on a cold clear night. There won't be light reflecting off the clouds. I would also try shooting early moring during sunrise as you are facing east.


I kinda like how the light reflects off the clouds, personally :)
01/03/2005 05:36:35 PM · #21
I liked the lights on the clouds too, personally.

Here's one from a clearer night taken with my s5100.

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01/03/2005 06:48:21 PM · #22
Nice exposures. My one nit with each is they both have a strong light source near the edge that pulls the eye out from the main point of focus. In the top one, it's the green light on the left, which could be cropped out, and in the bottom photo it's the blue light towrds the lefe, which could be desaturated or dodged.
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