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04/09/2003 11:52:55 PM · #1
A LESSON TO MY SON
by A PROUD AMERICAN
Irma S. Chambers

The other day, my nine year old son wanted to know why we were at war. My husband looked at our son and then looked at me. My husband and I were in the Army during the Gulf War and we would be honored to serve and defend our country again today. I knew that my husband would give him a good explanation.

My husband thought for a few minutes and then told my son to go stand in our front living room window. He told him:

"Son, stand there and tell me what you see?"

"I see trees and cars and our neighbors houses," he replied.

"OK, now I want you to pretend that our house and our yard is the United States of America and you are President Bush."

Our son giggled and said "OK."

"Now son, I want you to look out the window and pretend that every house and yard on this block is a different country," my husband said.

"OK Dad, I'm pretending."

"Now I want you to stand there and look out the window and see that man come out of his house with his wife and he has her by the hair and is hitting her. You see her bleeding and crying. He hits her in the face, he throws her on the ground, then he starts to kick her to death. Their children run out and are afraid to stop him, they are crying, they are watching this but do nothing because they are kids and afraid of their father. You see all of this son....what do you do?"

"Dad?"

"What do you do son?!"

"I call the police, Dad."

"OK. Pretend that the police are the United Nations and they take your call, listen to what you know and saw but they refuse to help. What do you do then son?!"

"Dad, but the police are supposed to help!" My son starts to whine.

"They don't want to son, because they say that it is not their place or your place to get involved and that you should stay out of it," my husband says.

"But Dad...he killed her!!" my son exclaims.

"I know he did...but the police tell you to stay out of it. Now I want you to look out that window and pretend you see our neighbor who you're pretending is Saddam turn around and do the same thing to his children."

"Daddy...he kills them?"

"Yes son, he does. What do you do?"

"Well, if the police don't want to help, I will go and ask my next door neighbor to help me stop him," our son says.

"Son, our next door neighbor sees what is happening and refuses to get involved as well. He refuses to open the door and help you stop him," my husband says.

"But Dad, I NEED help!!! I can't stop him by myself!!"

"WHAT DO YOU DO SON?"

Our son starts to cry.

"OK, no one wants to help you, the man across the street saw you ask for help and saw that no one would help you stop him. He stands taller and puffs out his chest. Guess what he does next son?"

"What Daddy?"

"He walks across the street to the old ladies house and breaks down her door and drags her out, steals all her stuff and sets her house on fire and then...he kills her. He turns around and sees you standing in he window and laughs at you. WHAT DO YOU DO?!!!"

"Daddy..."

"WHAT DO YOU DO?!!!"

Our son is crying and he looks down and he whispers, "I close the blinds, Daddy."

My husband looks at our son with tears in his eyes and asks him... "Why?"

"Because Daddy.....the police are supposed to help...people who needs it....and they won't help....You always say that neighbors are supposed to HELP neighbors, but they won't help either...they won't help me stop him...I'm afraid....I can't do it by myself...Daddy.....I can't look out my window and just watch him do all these terrible things and...and.....do nothing...so....I'm just going to close the blinds....so I can't see what he's doing........and I'm going to pretend that it is not happening."

I start to cry.

My husband looks at our nine year old son standing in the window, looking pitiful and ashamed at his answers to my husbands questions and he tells him...."Son"

"Yes, Daddy."

"Open the blinds because that man....he's at your front door..."WHAT DO YOU DO?!!!!"

My son looks at his father, anger and defiance in his eyes. He balls up this tiny fists and looks his father square in the eyes, without hesitation he says: "I DEFEND MY FAMILY DAD!! I'M NOT GONNA LET HIM HURT MOMMY OR MY SISTER, DAD!!! I'M GONNA FIGHT HIM, DAD, I'M GONNA FIGHT HIM!!!!!"

I see a tear roll down my husband's cheek and he grabs my son to his chest and hugs him tight, and cries..."It's too late to fight him, he's too strong and he's already at YOUR front door son.....you should have stopped him BEFORE he killed his wife. You have to do what's right, even if you have to do it alone, before......it's too late," my husband whispers.

THAT scenario I just gave you is WHY we are at war with Iraq. When good men stand by and let evil happen is the greatest EVIL of all. Our President is doing what is right. We, as a free nation, must understand that this war is a war of humanity. WE must remove this evil man from power so that we can continue to live in a free world where we are not afraid to look out our window and see crimes on humanity. So that my
nine year old son won't grow up in a world where he feels that if he just "closes" that blinds the atrocities in the world won't affect him. Today the second day of "WAR on IRAQ" I felt compelled to write this and pass it along. Hopefully, you will understand the lesson my husband tried to teach our son.

"YOU MUST NEVER BE AFRAID TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT! EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALONE!" BE PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN! BE PROUD OF OUR PRESIDENT! BE PROUD OF OUR TROOPS!! SUPPORT THEM!!! SUPPORT AMERICA!! SO THAT IN THE FUTURE OUR CHILDREN WILL NEVER HAVE TO CLOSE THEIR BLINDS...."
04/10/2003 12:07:02 AM · #2
-sniffles-
04/10/2003 12:10:01 AM · #3
that one made me cry :(
04/10/2003 12:11:32 AM · #4
Jesus, I'd hate to be around when those lunatic parents try to explain where babies come from.


I think a simple "We're helping to free the Iraqi citizens form their psycho president" would suffice for a 9 year old..
04/10/2003 12:16:28 AM · #5
see kids? this is called propoganda.

stupid stories like these would not change my mind. even though my mind has changed a little recently. what made me change my mind?

the fact that the majority of iraq wants this war. normally i'd be of the position that we should help if they ask for help. but in this situation, that may not be possible.

i just hope the us handles the post-war period better than previously. saddam needs to be removed from power yes. we need to not set them up a system, but help them set up their own system. remember, we put saddam in power. and we need to find someway for their economy to recover. a good portion of their schools for instance were funded by the *ahem* nuclear weapons program.
04/10/2003 12:43:39 AM · #6
Propoganda? Sounds like a pretty damn good analogy. I am not sure it is a "stupid" story to change minds, either. Just to make a point...and I think that point was very well made.
Now I am pretty sure this WAS a story and total fiction, because it does seem a little intense to tell a 9 year old.
If we would not have started this, we would never have known that the majority of Iraq wanted this. Oh yeah, because the ones that did speak out were executed.
04/10/2003 01:19:37 AM · #7
You forgot one important phrase.

"And son the usa wants to control the oil of that country so it can improve our economy, but we pretend its for noble reasons"

;-)

Message edited by author 2003-04-10 01:20:09.
04/10/2003 01:45:39 AM · #8
Originally posted by Hoogie:

"And son the usa wants to control the oil of that country so it can improve our economy, but we pretend its for noble reasons"


Oh Hoogie, you are angry because Ronald Reagan "spanked" your cowardly nation (New Zeland) in the 80's and ever since the only export you have is Butter and Lamb droppings. :D

Do you think that the Iraqi people were benefiting from Iraqi oil sales before Saddam? Or are you just an angry New Zelander? Get over it otherwise we will sanction your butter also. :p
04/10/2003 01:54:00 AM · #9
Originally posted by ChrisW123:

Originally posted by Hoogie:

"And son the usa wants to control the oil of that country so it can improve our economy, but we pretend its for noble reasons"


Oh Hoogie, you are angry because Ronald Reagan "spanked" your cowardly nation (New Zeland) in the 80's and ever since the only export you have is Butter and Lamb droppings. :D

Do you think that the Iraqi people were benefiting from Iraqi oil sales before Saddam? Or are you just an angry New Zelander? Get over it otherwise we will sanction your butter also. :p


Ok chris i dont want another argument we obviously disagree and you are obviosly seeing a different picture of the war than i am.

NZ cowardly ....LOL LOL

All i can say is there are a lot of angry people because of certain things that have happened in the past week so i will not voice my opinion on this any more .

In fact ill try to avoid the rant forum so im not tempted :)...congrats it is at least good to see that the end may be near eh!

p.s

"total merchandise exports for NZ were $31.06 billion for year ended june 2002"

SOME OF OUR EXPORTS....
Fruit and Vegetables:
Vegetables
Apples & Pears
Kiwifruit
Other Fruit & Nuts
Fruit & Vegetable Preparations
Primary Products:
Live Animals
Plants/ Flowers
Grass Seeds/ Misc. Seeds
Wool
Raw Hides & Skins
Wood/ Pulp
Other Primary Products
Industrial Raw Materials:
Mineral Fuels and Oils
Other Industrial Raw Materials
Metals:
Aluminium
Iron, Steel & Other Metals
Manufactured Products:
Organic Chemicals
Pharmaceutical Products
Essential Oils/ Cosmetics
Other Chemical Products
Plastic Products
Rubber Products
Leather & Manufactures
Wood Sheets/ Panels
Wood Products/ Furniture
Paper & Paperboard
Printed Products
Textiles
Carpets/ Floor Coverings
Apparel/ Footwear
Other Furniture
Agricultural and Horticultural Machinery
Domestic Electrical Equipment
Industrial and Electrical Machinery
Marine Equipment
Metal Products
Land/ Air Transport
Toys, Games and Sporting Equipment
Other Manufactured Products
Beef
Lamb
Mutton & Hogget
Meal Preparations
Other Meats
Dairy Products:
Milk Powders
Butter
Cheese
Casein
Other Dairy Products
Fish
Fish Preparations

Not bad for a poulation of 3.9 million eh matey :) smaller than most of your cities its a bit more than butter and lambs droppings eh chris...HELL YOUR CLEVER

Message edited by author 2003-04-10 02:37:39.
04/10/2003 08:49:18 AM · #10
yea I noticed this morning at the grocery satore that the apples I was buying were from New Zealand... they made me think of you and I put them back on the shelf... :oP
04/10/2003 09:02:00 AM · #11
Well, I guess we're brave and strong enough to 'liberate' the people of a country with a weak military (i.e. Iraq), but not Cuba, not N. Korea, not Iran, and not China - heck, even tho they brutally suppress their citizens' rights (anyone remember Tianammen Square Massacre?), we granted them Most Favored Nation status :) ..

"So what's wrong with this picture?" .. Can someone explain?

P.S. The writer of the story below clearly doesn't know or understand or care about the history of the region (Iraq).


04/10/2003 09:05:24 AM · #12
Originally posted by Anachronite:

yea I noticed this morning at the grocery satore that the apples I was buying were from New Zealand... they made me think of you and I put them back on the shelf... :oP


lol good on ya anachronite i too picked up a pencil that was made in the usa and i promptly refused to use it.... ;)
04/10/2003 09:13:26 AM · #13
Originally posted by ChrisW123:



Ronald Reagan "spanked" your cowardly nation (New Zeland) in the 80's and ever since the only export you have is Butter and Lamb droppings. :D


Chris123,

I am a New Zealander and I feel very insulted by your remarks about my country. Would you mind keeping such comments to yourself please, thank you.
04/10/2003 10:26:19 AM · #14
Try that with North Korea, and see what happens.
04/10/2003 10:34:15 AM · #15
Originally posted by ChrisW123:

Originally posted by Hoogie:

"And son the usa wants to control the oil of that country so it can improve our economy, but we pretend its for noble reasons"


Oh Hoogie, you are angry because Ronald Reagan "spanked" your cowardly nation (New Zeland) in the 80's and ever since the only export you have is Butter and Lamb droppings. :D

Do you think that the Iraqi people were benefiting from Iraqi oil sales before Saddam? Or are you just an angry New Zelander? Get over it otherwise we will sanction your butter also. :p


Rednecks, my country is filled with arrogant rednecks.
04/10/2003 10:44:12 AM · #16
I can just see the family across the street.

"Daddy, why did the boy over the road spit on me?"

"Because, son, his father has this idea that the man a few doors down from us is about to kill his wife. I asked him to prove it, but he said he just knows it and I should shut up. He asked me to help knock the man's door down and drag him out and kill him. I refused, and now he's calling me a cheese-eating surrender monkey."

"I don't like that man daddy."

"No son, neither do I, but he has a mighty big gun."
04/10/2003 11:05:58 AM · #17
Stories are the only way to help young and old kids understand the whys. I love that story, but Mag. does have a point. Why don't we help the people in cuba? I'm not sure if the leader there is killing his people like Saddam was. I do think we did the right thing. It looks like the people over there are very happy.
04/10/2003 12:48:38 PM · #18
Johnny's in America, Ah-ah-ah-ah ah-ah ah-ah-ah
Johnny's in America, Ah-ah-ah-ah ah-ah ah-ah-ah

I'm afraid of Americans
I'm afraid of the world
I'm afraid I can't help it
I'm afraid I can't
I'm afraid of Americans
I'm afraid of the world
I'm afraid I can't help it
I'm afraid I can't
I'm afraid of Americans

God is an American
God is an American

I'm afraid of Americans
I'm afraid of the world
I'm afraid I can't help it
I'm afraid I can't
I'm afraid of Americans
I'm afraid of the world
I'm afraid I can't help it
I'm afraid I can't

Yeah, I'm afraid of Americans
I'm afraid of the words
I'm afraid I can't help it
I'm afraid I can't
I'm afraid of Americans

Johnny's an American
Johnny's an American

Johnny's an American, Ah-ah-ah-ah ah-ah ah-ah-ah
Johnny's an American, Ah-ah-ah-ah ah-ah ah-ah-ah
Johnny's an American, Ah-ah-ah-ah ah-ah ah-ah-ah
Johnny's an American, Ah-ah-ah-ah ah-ah ah-ah-ah

I'M AFRAID OF AMERICANS
- Album: Earthling
- Lyrics by Bowie Music by Bowie and Brian Eno
04/10/2003 12:50:57 PM · #19
Well is it a complicated situation, I suppose the question we must examine is: What lands to we(US) control and have the right to control.

I may not like the way the house down the street is run, but does that give me the right to change that regeime? ...even if there is abuse going on.
04/10/2003 12:52:18 PM · #20
oooh...what profound lyrics! i'm stung.


04/10/2003 01:21:07 PM · #21
Sher9204, don't take it personally.

But to be honest, a lot of people are afraid of Americans. Now all short sighted people are thinking this war is a great success, what will stop the U.S. from bombing the hell out of the others that make up the "axis of evil"???
This action has taken away all the power form the "policeman" or united nations as we liked to call it. The nations are not so united anymore. And the U.S as only remaining superpower is supposed to tell the rest of the world what to do...
Too bad they fail to see that while the danger of the sovjet-union seems to be gone, there are still some major players left who are now equally free to do as they please.
Who is gonna stop China from attacking Taiwan? How will the other Arab nations react? What are the Russians going to do? Will India or Pakistan use their weapons of mass destruction? Can mainland Europe stay out of this mess?

04/10/2003 01:27:46 PM · #22
Most people in inner city's (non-rednecks) would close their blinds and turn up the volume on the TV, But seems to me that most people in the rural areas (red-neck types) would be climbing all over each other to get at the bastard next door.
You can turn away from evil or evil-doers, until they come knocking at your door then you can ask after youve been attacked ,abused ,robbed, raped or family members have been killed or taken away to be tortured , ask why know one came to save your butt.
Or you can stand up to bullies and thugs.


I have on occasion explained to my children the world in similar ways although not to the point of tears. This is not an easy lesson either. The decision to act or defend someone else requires courage and selflessness.

As to what right do we have to interfere? How insane a question is that?How can we as human beings, not just Americans, be so complacent to any evil that goes on any where in the world???

As to the Injustice in other countries ?Why not ask the people of your own country to pitch in and help your neighbor!!!Why do so few have to do the hard work???
04/10/2003 01:41:25 PM · #23
Originally posted by Geocide:

Well is it a complicated situation, I suppose the question we must examine is: What lands to we(US) control and have the right to control.

I may not like the way the house down the street is run, but does that give me the right to change that regeime? ...even if there is abuse going on.


definitely
04/10/2003 01:44:27 PM · #24
Originally posted by BadPigg:


As to what right do we have to interfere? How insane a question is that?How can we as human beings, not just Americans, be so complacent to any evil that goes on any where in the world???

As to the Injustice in other countries ?Why not ask the people of your own country to pitch in and help your neighbor!!!Why do so few have to do the hard work???


I heard that the US does not accept refugee's. I heard that the US does not pay it's contribution to the U.N. I know that the US is not going to do any thing for the Palastines. I think that the U.S. is not aktive in one of the many african nations where people are tortured everyday.

I know that at this same moment there are German and Dutch soldiers in Afghanistan to keep peace. I know they tried to do the same in former Yugoslavia and Libanon. I know that two 5 minute drives from my home are 2 refugeecamps where Turks and kurds, and Serbs and moslims are still fighting eachother.

So what is the hard work? Dropping the bomb or cleaning the mess???

Message edited by author 2003-04-10 13:45:48.
04/10/2003 02:14:06 PM · #25




Originally posted by Damitriel:

Originally posted by BadPigg:


As to what right do we have to interfere? How insane a question is that?How can we as human beings, not just Americans, be so complacent to any evil that goes on any where in the world???

As to the Injustice in other countries ?Why not ask the people of your own country to pitch in and help your neighbor!!!Why do so few have to do the hard work???


I heard that the US does not accept refugee's. I heard that the US does not pay it's contribution to the U.N. I know that the US is not going to do any thing for the Palastines. I think that the U.S. is not aktive in one of the many african nations where people are tortured everyday.

I know that at this same moment there are German and Dutch soldiers in Afghanistan to keep peace. I know they tried to do the same in former Yugoslavia and Libanon. I know that two 5 minute drives from my home are 2 refugeecamps where Turks and kurds, and Serbs and moslims are still fighting eachother.

So what is the hard work? Dropping the bomb or cleaning the mess???



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