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09/17/2002 10:33:59 PM · #26
One thing is for SURE. I picked the wrong freakin' challenge to submit my very first entry!! Good timing? No, not me. ;)
09/17/2002 10:35:22 PM · #27
To me., this is illustrative photography. You would have two objects competing for your attention. I do not think this is the purpose of negative space. The description in on of the tutorials pointed out that for negative space, the subject, and the background both outline each other. This would not be the case here.

Originally posted by bamaster:
Overall, I've been grading kinda harshly. So many photos looked forced... negative space to show contrast. While the photo may look nice, I think it's cheating the challenge. I wish I could have submitted what I was thinking of submitting, so I'll tell you what it was and you can reply with your thoughts...

Photo in landscape mode, black and white. In the bottom left forground in sharp focus a bottle of prescription drugs. In the right background in sharp focus a girl, smeared makeup from crying, staring at the bottle, arms crossed. The two subjects seperated by more than 50% black space. The idea was to illustrate the turmoil the young lady has with drugs. The negative space represents the internal conflict.... to take the bottle or not.

Sounds good to me, but who knows if I was able to pull it off. I see the image pretty clearly in my head. Hmmm.


09/17/2002 11:06:47 PM · #28
OK, here it is...I'm gonna clear all this up for all of you:

Negative space is simply the flip side of the positive space. If the negative space can positively represent the neutrality of the positive space without negative consequences, you have achieved your goal. The positive space, in turn, needs to balance the negative but only if the negative is somewhat positive, otherwise the positive space becomes negative space, and then someone will leave a comment like "that sucks!" So, be positive when shooting your negative spaces, and the negative will only bring you postitives. Clear? Yeah, that's what I thought. :-)
09/23/2002 12:58:01 AM · #29
OK, I have put my comments on My picture, I would like to see others do the same as a means of learning more about NS.
09/23/2002 02:50:17 AM · #30
I've also put comments in mine too =) I've learn quite a lot through the comments and "debates" in the comment part.



* This message has been edited by the author on 9/23/2002 2:49:47 AM.
09/23/2002 03:16:12 AM · #31
Originally posted by Swashbuckler:
Then I must be a "middle" brainer. I often ask "What is it?" I don't care what it is, but I do desire understanding.
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I must be crazy. My left brain wants a clue to the artist's perspective. My right brain likes purdy pictures. I listen to the right side. (I'm right handed after all)


Sorry to get all technical at this late stage, but your right hand is controlled by the left hemisphere of your brain...

09/23/2002 03:19:21 AM · #32
Originally posted by Frank Beckman:
OK, I have put my comments on My picture, I would like to see others do the same as a means of learning more about NS.

Hey Frank,

I liked your photo, but I completely missed seeing the scale of the cross; thanks for the further explanation.
09/23/2002 03:24:52 AM · #33
Originally posted by roon2c:
I've also put comments in mine too =) I've learn quite a lot through the comments and "debates" in the comment part.


Also thanks for the additional info. The reference to the "Props" thread was made mostly in jest, but here is th link to that thread.
09/23/2002 03:37:09 AM · #34
OK -- I've added a further comment to my entry...
09/23/2002 07:33:10 AM · #35
I added a comment to mine as well.
09/23/2002 08:51:25 AM · #36
I added comments to mine ...
09/23/2002 09:00:38 AM · #37
Originally posted by pnicholls:
I added comments to mine ...


I added some to mine too
09/23/2002 09:30:54 AM · #38
Me too :-) Of course I appreciate comments to my comment.
I think it would be a good idea to make it a habit to explain the photo a bit more and reply to some of the comments you got after the challenge every week,
09/23/2002 11:02:02 AM · #39
Updated mine as well. Responded to some people who've updated theirs. I think it's easier to respond in each person's actual photo as Stephan suggested; keeps this thread from getting unwieldy. :-)

Dawn
09/23/2002 11:24:01 AM · #40
Me three - I'm updated....yes rubbery lightbulb thingy
09/23/2002 11:35:29 AM · #41
I left my comments. If you can't find my picture, keep going DOWN. If you still can't find it, keep going DOWN. It's there somewhere.
09/23/2002 11:53:04 AM · #42
I just noticed that I didn't get any 1 votes!!! - I can't believe it - didn't think it was even possible...LOL
09/23/2002 01:34:00 PM · #43
Originally posted by Frank Beckman:
I would like to see every one (after the challenge is over of course) comment on their entry and tell what you were trying to show...

My Negative Space entry "Running Out" was my first attempt to really convey a message and utilize some graphic concepts that I've learned. The title is the viewer’s clue to reading the image. Someone commented "Running out of water, or of time?" The answer is Yes, to both. The concept for this image results from reading an article in the National Geographic about our planet's shortage of clean water.

The negative space in the image creates two distinct subjects. We are running out of clean water and running out of time to do something about it. When viewing the image, one's attention tends to bounce back and forth between the two subjects. This is intentional to create visual motion, which also mimics the passage of time, tick, tick, tick...

The full goblet will soon run over, which represents excess consumption of the world’s resources by wealthy nations. The watch obviously represents time. If one looks closely it can be seen that the hands are set to just before midnight, which represents the shortness of time remaining.

I enjoyed reading the comments on this one and thank you everyone who commented.

09/23/2002 01:39:49 PM · #44
I would like some more comments on my image, to help me understand how others perceive it.

The image 149, is my photograph.

During voting I’ve gotten a lot of comments saying, the image is too dark.

The reasoning behind the choice of tonal structure was to make the sky representing freedom look not completely worry-less. The choice of clear sky in the middle and clouds encroaching on it from the sides was to depict that our understanding of freedom is not necessarily what is of those who are watching us (tone plays a role here too). And the choice of making the camera somewhat obscure was to illustrate the fact that we don’t know when our ‘big brothers’ are watching us or our enemies, and for what purpose.

Any thoughts ?

Thanks.
Dimitrii
Freedom ...
09/23/2002 02:24:16 PM · #45
Originally posted by dimitrii:
I would like some more comments on my image, to help me understand how others perceive it.

The image 149, is my photograph.

During voting I’ve gotten a lot of comments saying, the image is too dark.

The reasoning behind the choice of tonal structure was to make the sky representing freedom look not completely worry-less. The choice of clear sky in the middle and clouds encroaching on it from the sides was to depict that our understanding of freedom is not necessarily what is of those who are watching us (tone plays a role here too). And the choice of making the camera somewhat obscure was to illustrate the fact that we don’t know when our ‘big brothers’ are watching us or our enemies, and for what purpose.

Any thoughts ?

Thanks.
Dimitrii
Freedom ...


I think the connection gets lost with the blue sky. You can make it darker, but it's still a blue sky. I think that this plot would be more effective with a sinister sky (couldn't order a pending storm huh?). A colored filter might have gotten the effect you were after, but maybe not as those clouds don't look all that foreboding to me. I think this left people looking at it more on technical merit in that the security camera and sky are a bit underexposed. I really like the concept of this photo and appreciate the thought that went into it.

09/23/2002 02:51:16 PM · #46
Originally posted by Gene L.:
Originally posted by dimitrii:
[i]I would like some more comments on my image, to help me understand how others perceive it.

The image 149, is my photograph.

During voting I’ve gotten a lot of comments saying, the image is too dark.

The reasoning behind the choice of tonal structure was to make the sky representing freedom look not completely worry-less. The choice of clear sky in the middle and clouds encroaching on it from the sides was to depict that our understanding of freedom is not necessarily what is of those who are watching us (tone plays a role here too). And the choice of making the camera somewhat obscure was to illustrate the fact that we don’t know when our ‘big brothers’ are watching us or our enemies, and for what purpose.

Any thoughts ?

Thanks.
Dimitrii
Freedom ...


I think the connection gets lost with the blue sky. You can make it darker, but it's still a blue sky. I think that this plot would be more effective with a sinister sky (couldn't order a pending storm huh?). A colored filter might have gotten the effect you were after, but maybe not as those clouds don't look all that foreboding to me. I think this left people looking at it more on technical merit in that the security camera and sky are a bit underexposed. I really like the concept of this photo and appreciate the thought that went into it.

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Thanks for the comments, very interesting point of view.
It is an interesting question, to what degree a concept should be understated to still be understood.

By the way very beautiful (Dali'ish) image.

Thanks.
Dimitrii
09/23/2002 03:36:16 PM · #47
I updated mine... I kind of like this idea, as it made me revisit my intention after hearing others impressions... I think I might just go back through the rest of the challenges and add "last thoughts" to them...

Thanks for suggesting this Frank!
09/23/2002 04:08:16 PM · #48
My idea with this photograph was to make as much of the glass disappear as possible... I setup this glass on black posterboard with black posterboard as a bakcdrop as well. I filled the glass with water and added one drop of red food coloring. I made about 75 shots with the light at different positions, and this is the result that I liked best.

The theme on the "Blood Sport" photo is one of the gambles/risks involved with drinking. The dice are symbolic of the gamble and the blood red liquid is symbolic of the alcohol and tragedies that are sometimes caused by it.

This photo scored ok but it didn't stir up many comments...

09/23/2002 04:46:56 PM · #49
My comments are updated.
09/23/2002 04:53:01 PM · #50
Same here - comment updated on my NegSpc entry.

Linda
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