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07/12/2005 03:44:51 PM · #1
I've given this link to a few people before, find it useful myself at times :

Google Cheat Sheet
07/12/2005 03:31:07 PM · #2
funny this came up...i love google btw, but i had to do a search for a school assignment to gather info....they told me type "Free Photography Services" and search for it on google to find photo sharing websites....but using those words gave me bad results. I used my own words "Photo Sharing" and BAM!!!!! there was everything i needed.
07/12/2005 03:22:41 PM · #3
Google is my encyclopedia, my shopping guide, my map (both topographic and road) and my home page. (and yes, I agree with Saracat & Madmordegon, sometimes it's just plain funny)

Something like DPChallenge. I guess I just like it.

Alice
07/12/2005 01:35:35 PM · #4
Originally posted by MadMordegon:

But google can be pretty smart too.. //www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Paris+Hilton+is%27nt+a+whore


That's just funny.
07/12/2005 01:29:29 PM · #5
But google can be pretty smart too.. //www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Paris+Hilton+is%27nt+a+whore
07/12/2005 01:09:05 PM · #6
Google is awesome. It's by far the best search engine I've ever used, plus they've been gradually adding a bunch of other services that also rock. Google images is super useful, as is froogle. Google scholar is great when I can't access more powerful academic databases when I'm out of the office. GMail in my opinion, is the best free e-mail available. Google Local is really sweet...like an electronic yellowpages, with links to maps. Google maps is going to oust mapquest pretty quick (same concept except the map display is 4x the size of mapquest and you can overlay it on satellite images). And after reading about it in another forum here last night, I have discovered google earth, which may be the coolest program I've been introduced to since photoshop.
07/12/2005 12:50:14 PM · #7
my frustration with google is this:

on many searches, almost the first 2 pages of results is full of "shadow" sites that people have set up. these sites are nothing but lists of sponsored links for which they get paid. so, instead of "organic" or "natural" search results coming up to the top, we instead get these pages that THEN show the same sponsored links available on the main Google page for the search.

if you're confused, i understand. it's a roundabout way. but what's happening is that sponsored links from google's adwords and adsense programs are slowly taking over the search features and making google a LOT less useful than it once was. it's a giant now, but many many people are getting more and more frustrated with it for reasons such as this.
07/12/2005 12:38:18 PM · #8
Google is so great because it offers many languages such as
Klingon

Pig Latin
and
Elmer Fudd

I'm Feewing Wucky...lmao
07/12/2005 11:58:04 AM · #9
I don't think I could live without google. Really.
07/12/2005 11:55:45 AM · #10
Originally posted by Delfeye:

Just in case someone isn't comfortable with using Boolean logic in searching, here is a great help page.

//www.googleguide.com/advanced_operators_reference.html


Very helpful page. Thanks for posting the link!
Sara

PS - I like Google 'cause it's EASY to use.
07/12/2005 11:52:29 AM · #11
Google rocks. It's the best for searching images, hands down, and its info searches have always worked well for me. Add to that the simplicity and the cleanliness, and I have no complaints!
07/12/2005 11:50:28 AM · #12
Just in case someone isn't comfortable with using Boolean logic in searching, here is a great help page.

//www.googleguide.com/advanced_operators_reference.html
07/12/2005 11:45:52 AM · #13
I'll tell you why

GMAIL!!
GOOGLE BAR!!
NO POP UPS!!
07/12/2005 11:44:17 AM · #14
Also they have clever pictures on holidays.
07/12/2005 11:33:27 AM · #15
I don't see that anyone has mentioned this yet, but the way Google works (more or less) is that it searches for the terms and then the top ranked pages are those with the most links TO them. The theory is that the more people who link to a page, the better the info must be. I think it's a pretty smart way to organize the pages and I've always had a high rate of success finding what I'm looking for on Google.
07/12/2005 11:25:50 AM · #16
Originally posted by dsa157:

...I'll offer up an additional option - Google has a beta service they are testing called Google Suggest which, as you type in your search query, returns related search terms and the number of results in the result set to help you refine your search. Pretty cool.

Dave


Hey this is pretty cool, thanks for the heads up dsa.
07/12/2005 09:07:23 AM · #17
Just going back to your original point, Chris.. Is there a search engine that's better?
07/12/2005 09:01:50 AM · #18
Originally posted by Alienyst:


Excuse me...I do know how to use Google, thank you very much!

I don't expect it to immediately answer any question. As a search engine I expect it to produce results that match the criteria I enter.


so what exactly were your expectations given the criteria that you entered? Since you didn't weight any of the terms more heavily you got many results for photoshop and plugins and the top ranked results in the set included PhotoImpact. What would you have preferred to see in the result set?


I didn't ask for help, I aksed for opinions why people thought Google was so great.


People have given you their opinions, but since they seem to disagree with your preconceived notion that Google doesn't work very well, you don't seem to want to hear what the rest of us like about it, so what was the point in starting this thread in the first place?

If it is a rant, fine, then move it into the Rant section. If it is truly a discussion about interesting features and capabilities in Google versus other search engines, then I'll offer up an additional option - Google has a beta service they are testing called Google Suggest which, as you type in your search query, returns related search terms and the number of results in the result set to help you refine your search. Pretty cool.

Dave
07/12/2005 08:25:41 AM · #19
Originally posted by Alienyst:

Excuse me...I do know how to use Google, thank you very much!

My apologies.

Your assertion that it "never produced" results for you, and the fact that for me (and, it would appear, lots of other people) it reliably DOES produce results, made me ASSume otherwise.
07/12/2005 07:46:39 AM · #20
Originally posted by Alienyst:

Originally posted by ganders:

The fact that "it has NEVER produced results" for you suggests that actually you DON'T know how to use Google to produce results for you - so I wouldn't be too sniffy about people trying to help.

Perhaps your mistake is assuming that Google will immediately answer your question; all it does it point the way to the websites that will help. And in that, it still outclasses every other search engine I've tried.


Excuse me...I do know how to use Google, thank you very much!

I don't expect it to immediately answer any question. As a search engine I expect it to produce results that match the criteria I enter. I try to use Google since it is easy and available, but I find that every time I do I am disappointed with the results and go back to using Ferret - which when using the same search criteria always produces results that are relevant.

I didn't ask for help, I aksed for opinions why people thought Google was so great. I may not know how to use my camera to all its advantages and produce stunning pictures with it, but computers is one thing I know.

Perhaps their opinions are based on knowing how to use it effectively and therefore being able to find what they are looking for.

I'm an IT Trainer and, in the early days of the web, used to run a course on accessing the information on the web, much of which focused on using available search engines and directories effectively. None of the options were that great so I'd cover several, including tools such as dogpile that listed results from more than one search engine or directory.

When Google came out it blew the other search tools out of the water again and again and again.

I still check out alternative search tools regularly but find google is still blowing them out of the water.

I do make sure I'm aware too of which listings are commercially elevated in the ranks and which are genuinely the top matches.
07/12/2005 07:44:24 AM · #21
Originally posted by ganders:

(all, sadly, which seem to suggest the it doesn't support them...) In fact, the very first link is to the manufacturers website, and that leads you nicely into their support forums:

(relevant thread on RAW files)


Ya beat me ganders, I looked all over their site and read about the program and nothing says anything about supporting RAW files, even in the latest patch 10 nothing is mentioned.

I like google because it is clean, fast to load and I don't have to "search" for the search option, plus there is the tons of other stuff like the maps and foogle that you can access IF you want to, it isn't thrown down your throat like most do. I agree that the more you pay the more your links will come up but I know that other non-paying sites do come up also, it took me a long time to figure it out but I finally got my name and website to show up without paying.

Message edited by author 2005-07-12 07:45:02.
07/12/2005 07:34:21 AM · #22
Originally posted by ganders:

The fact that "it has NEVER produced results" for you suggests that actually you DON'T know how to use Google to produce results for you - so I wouldn't be too sniffy about people trying to help.

Perhaps your mistake is assuming that Google will immediately answer your question; all it does it point the way to the websites that will help. And in that, it still outclasses every other search engine I've tried.


Excuse me...I do know how to use Google, thank you very much!

I don't expect it to immediately answer any question. As a search engine I expect it to produce results that match the criteria I enter. I try to use Google since it is easy and available, but I find that every time I do I am disappointed with the results and go back to using Ferret - which when using the same search criteria always produces results that are relevant.

I didn't ask for help, I aksed for opinions why people thought Google was so great. I may not know how to use my camera to all its advantages and produce stunning pictures with it, but computers is one thing I know.

Message edited by author 2005-07-12 07:36:54.
07/12/2005 07:33:24 AM · #23
Firstly they do not search the pages. they build and index and search that, hence the speed.

It depends on the web page maker and what they pur in their tags. ALL search engines see the same stuff(Meta tags).

The problem is most developers realise that to get a hit they need to include catch words, "Photoshop" is certainly one.

Make use of the " (Quotes) to enter exact words. Otherwise raw might return rawlings,rawhide etc.

try the following

+"photoimpact" +"raw" +"plug-in"
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,970 for +"photoimpact" +"raw" +"plug-in". (0.03 seconds)
ULEAD BECOMES PROMINENT IN THE RETURNS.

instead of

photoimpact raw plug-in
Results 1 - 10 of about 9,220 for photoimpact raw plug-in. (0.21 seconds)
PHOTOSHOP IS PROMINENT IN THE RETURNS.

Hope this is helps.
07/12/2005 07:20:46 AM · #24
Originally posted by Alienyst:

I didn't ask people to do the search for me - I know how to use Google. I asked WHY people thought it was so great.

Because it's the best search engine out there, in my experience.

It's pretty rare that I ever need to find something out when Google hasn't led me to the information I needed. The fact that "it has NEVER produced results" for you suggests that actually you DON'T know how to use Google to produce results for you - so I wouldn't be too sniffy about people trying to help.

With the specific search, your main problem would seem to be the term "plugin"; if you were after information about RAW files in PhotoImpact, then a search on "PhotoImpact RAW" pulls up oodles of pages (all, sadly, which seem to suggest the it doesn't support them...) In fact, the very first link is to the manufacturers website, and that leads you nicely into their support forums:

(relevant thread on RAW files)

Perhaps your mistake is assuming that Google will immediately answer your question; all it does it point the way to the websites that will help. And in that, it still outclasses every other search engine I've tried.
07/12/2005 07:17:40 AM · #25
Have they got you snowed...they don't search all those pages every time you enter a search term.
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