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09/12/2005 12:24:29 AM · #1
Sorry...I am prepared to get slammed big time for this BUT...the blue IS NOT a high contrast shot. Yes, it is an excellent photograph. There is no question on that. But where is the high contrast?

The second place is also a great photo, but where is the high contrast?

09/12/2005 12:25:37 AM · #2
It's very high contrast to me...
09/12/2005 12:25:52 AM · #3
sorry for the mis-spelled title...
09/12/2005 12:26:31 AM · #4
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

It's very high contrast to me...


Where?
09/12/2005 12:28:07 AM · #5
I have to admit, I was VERY shocked to see the top three myself.
09/12/2005 12:29:06 AM · #6
Originally posted by Alienyst:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

It's very high contrast to me...


Where?


All over the entire image. There are a lot of lows and a lot of highlights. I would consider this high contrast very simply.
09/12/2005 12:34:16 AM · #7
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

All over the entire image. There are a lot of lows and a lot of highlights. I would consider this high contrast very simply.


Again, I ask where? All over where? What is high contrast? Be specific please.
09/12/2005 12:36:01 AM · #8
Looks high contrast to me. You all need to expand your minds.
09/12/2005 12:36:17 AM · #9
Originally posted by Alienyst:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

All over the entire image. There are a lot of lows and a lot of highlights. I would consider this high contrast very simply.


Again, I ask where? All over where? What is high contrast? Be specific please.


High contrast is an image that exhibits a majority of lows or highs without a majority of mids while maintaining a decent exposure level.
09/12/2005 12:37:44 AM · #10
And the blue image is mids all over and nothing else...where is the high contrast...again, please be specific!
09/12/2005 12:38:47 AM · #11
Originally posted by Alienyst:

And the blue image is mids all over and nothing else...where is the high contrast...again, please be specific!


No thanks.. It's high contrast in my mind and i'm not gonna try to convince you that it is. We already know what you think :)
09/12/2005 12:39:22 AM · #12
Originally posted by Alienyst:

And the blue image is mids all over and nothing else...where is the high contrast...again, please be specific!


Mids all over, huh? Get you a Spyder. Look at the beard.
09/12/2005 12:39:59 AM · #13
the red is not high contrast either - in fact it is a perfect example of the opposite of high contrast, it is a beutiful blend of tonal greys.
I am extremely dissapointed with A LOT of the images placements (not mine, i knew mine sucked haha)

Bears i understand but quite frankely the brown represent high contrast to me more that the blue and red.
09/12/2005 12:40:15 AM · #14
I have to agree. It's an excellent picture, but doesn't fit my idea of high contrast. Check the histogram. Once you crop out the white border you have a very gradual sloping from a majority dark to light...
09/12/2005 12:42:15 AM · #15
I see plenty of contrast, thought i would call it somewhat oversharpened.
09/12/2005 12:43:17 AM · #16
It is a contrasty picture but not HIGH contrast in my eyes also.
09/12/2005 12:44:12 AM · #17
You folks need to calibrate your monitors or re-evaluate your definition of high contrast.

The challenge wasn't for the highest contrast image. It was for the best image that was also high contrast.
09/12/2005 12:44:40 AM · #18
three main areas of high contrast

1. on his right ear it is pure black, right next to a sunny spot in the background that is pure white

2. highlights on his face - contrast is about 1 (almost black) against 8 (almost white)

3. beard - contrast is as high as 0/7

Message edited by author 2005-09-12 00:45:40.
09/12/2005 12:45:36 AM · #19
There were just other pictures I expected to win, not mine, just many others I expected to be in the top ten that never made it.
09/12/2005 12:45:39 AM · #20
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by Alienyst:

And the blue image is mids all over and nothing else...where is the high contrast...again, please be specific!


Mids all over, huh? Get you a Spyder. Look at the beard.

or... just look at the histogram... it's almost completely lows and mids. There is a small amount of peaking at the far right. About half that peak comes from the white boarder i'd imagine. Also IMO, the image looks much better with more contrast added. I'm not fighting for either side here, but I am stating the facts.
09/12/2005 12:45:41 AM · #21
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Mids all over, huh? Get you a Spyder. Look at the beard.


I have a Spyder and all three of my monitors are calibrated...thank you very much.
09/12/2005 12:46:18 AM · #22
Not a biased opinion here, but I really think that some monitors need calibrating.
There is also more to contrats than JUST the amount of light/dark pixels.
Contrast can have a bazillion examples.
Contrast in height, size, social stature, value, lifestyles, etc etc etc..

Ribbons are well-deserved in my opinion.

Edit to add:

Crap - relax folks.
This is what is undermining this site and making it someplace I am slowly wanting to be less a part of more & more, as I don't feel we should have to seek a law firm to make sure we have a picture that fits, title is spelled right, is perfect in every aspect, will not offend anyone, will not be mis-construed as something else, is mathmatically computed to determine is light/dark ratios.

UGH

Message edited by author 2005-09-12 00:54:51.
09/12/2005 12:46:21 AM · #23
Originally posted by nsbca7:


The challenge wasn't for the highest contrast image. It was for the best image that was also high contrast.


Excellent :)

It's always about the image itself. There are always way too many images that do nothing but meet the challenge.
09/12/2005 12:50:51 AM · #24
I dont think a few white beard hairs and a dark ear with a spot of sunlight next to it deserves a ribbon in the *High Contrast* challenge.

I agree this is an awesome photo, but it got carried in this challenge by the shallow voting of many people on here. I am quite disappointed with this, there were photos with a much better sense of high contrast.. photos that were *meant* for this challenge, not just photos that happened to barely meet the criteria for high contrast.

And I'm not trying be a jerk to the taker of this photo, it could have easily been a "well-earned" ribbon winner in some other challenges I can think of.
09/12/2005 12:55:57 AM · #25
Originally posted by Atropos:

I dont think a few white beard hairs and a dark ear with a spot of sunlight next to it deserves a ribbon in the *High Contrast* challenge.


that's the beauty of peer voting on this site. you are welcome to your opinion, but the results of 253 other voters apparently don't agree with you.

Dave
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