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09/13/2005 02:47:43 AM · #1
I noticed LaCie's site no longer lists CRT Monitors:

'Displays' page
'CRT' page

I can still find them for sale on the net, but found it odd they were not listed on website. Anyone know if they are stopped production on CRTs and gone completely LCD?

David
09/13/2005 02:52:58 AM · #2
I think so. The superiority of the CRT has gone the way of film and now rests in the realm of myth.

Originally posted by Britannica:

I noticed LaCie's site no longer lists CRT Monitors:

'Displays' page
'CRT' page

I can still find them for sale on the net, but found it odd they were not listed on website. Anyone know if they are stopped production on CRTs and gone completely LCD?

David

09/13/2005 02:54:12 AM · #3
But Eizo CRT's are still the only ones capable of handling Adobe gamut, right?
09/13/2005 03:00:07 AM · #4
Originally posted by Didymus:

But Eizo CRT's are still the only ones capable of handling Adobe gamut, right?


Can you see it? That's beyond the spectrum of my eyes. Whats not beyond my eyes is fluctuations in a CRT image that are not present in a LCD. That is what causes the fatigued vision associated with CRTs.
09/13/2005 03:56:11 AM · #5
Originally posted by Didymus:

But Eizo CRT's are still the only ones capable of handling Adobe gamut, right?


I think the point is moot. I'm pretty sure Eizo stopped making CRTs and went over completely to LCDs.
09/13/2005 03:58:56 AM · #6
thos lacie screens look good no?
09/13/2005 04:19:06 AM · #7
Originally posted by leaf:

thos lacie screens look good no?


I'm pretty sure they stopped making CRTs also. But they make great LCDs.
09/13/2005 04:31:06 AM · #8
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by leaf:

thos lacie screens look good no?


I'm pretty sure they stopped making CRTs also. But they make great LCDs.


yeah that is what i meant. I was drooling over a new crt a few weeks ago and though the lacie screens stood out.
09/13/2005 05:54:40 AM · #9
who wants CRT´s anyways?!?!?!?
09/13/2005 06:00:38 AM · #10
So is it at all possible that the LaCie LCDs are comparable or even exceed their own CRTs?
09/13/2005 06:11:51 AM · #11
Originally posted by Bran-O-Rama:

So is it at all possible that the LaCie LCDs are comparable or even exceed their own CRTs?


of course:D
09/13/2005 06:52:22 AM · #12
Originally posted by Nazgul:

who wants CRT´s anyways?!?!?!?

I do.

As I see it, the disadvantages of a CRT:
flicker - not a problem at the higher refresh rates a good CRT will have available at all but the highest resolutions.
size and weight -- not a problem as I don't plan on lugging it around, and the monitor stand on my desk is large enought to comfortably hold 2 21" CRTs.

and, the disadvantages of a LCD:
sensitive to viewing angle -- no real solution when there is more than one person using the system. Each will adjust the display for optimum viewing from their own sitting height.
cost -- LCDs have come a long ways, but I can still get a much better quality image from an CRT than I can from a comparably priced LCD, and I don't expect that to change in the next few years.

Having a sleek, stylish bezel is just not important to me, it's the image produced not what it comes from that matters -- and in that regard, CRTs still come out on top in a quality/cost/benefit analysis.

David
09/13/2005 08:37:41 AM · #13
Originally posted by Britannica:

Originally posted by Nazgul:

who wants CRT´s anyways?!?!?!?

I do.

As I see it, the disadvantages of a CRT:
flicker - not a problem at the higher refresh rates a good CRT will have available at all but the highest resolutions.
size and weight -- not a problem as I don't plan on lugging it around, and the monitor stand on my desk is large enought to comfortably hold 2 21" CRTs.

and, the disadvantages of a LCD:
sensitive to viewing angle -- no real solution when there is more than one person using the system. Each will adjust the display for optimum viewing from their own sitting height.
cost -- LCDs have come a long ways, but I can still get a much better quality image from an CRT than I can from a comparably priced LCD, and I don't expect that to change in the next few years.

Having a sleek, stylish bezel is just not important to me, it's the image produced not what it comes from that matters -- and in that regard, CRTs still come out on top in a quality/cost/benefit analysis.

David


The only LaCie CRT I have seen around lately is the 21", which is around $800 and weighs in at 60lb. They used to make a 19", but I don't see those for sale anymore.

Their 19" LCD is about the same price as the 21" CRT and their 21" LCD is in the $1600 range. LaCie claims that their LCDs have the same gamut as their CRTs.

Message edited by author 2005-09-13 08:38:37.
09/13/2005 09:01:23 AM · #14
If I recall correctly, the LaCie monitors were actually manufactured by NEC-Mitsubishi (who have their own Spectreview line), but NM stopped making them (this year I think). The big difference between the LaCie and the NM package offerings was the calibration device: LaCie's was purportedly more accurate.

Note that all of Adobe RGB's colours are real/visible; it just doesn't contain all of them.
09/13/2005 12:30:16 PM · #15
Originally posted by dwoolridge:



Note that all of Adobe RGB's colours are real/visible; it just doesn't contain all of them.


Colors Supported - 16,700,000

But once you get past a certain point are they noticable?
09/13/2005 12:33:25 PM · #16
Originally posted by dwoolridge:

If I recall correctly, the LaCie monitors were actually manufactured by NEC-Mitsubishi (who have their own Spectreview line), but NM stopped making them (this year I think). The big difference between the LaCie and the NM package offerings was the calibration device: LaCie's was purportedly more accurate.

Note that all of Adobe RGB's colours are real/visible; it just doesn't contain all of them.


You remember correctly, although I think LaCie bought their tubes/electronics from NEC and manufactured their own housings. Not sure though.

R.
09/13/2005 12:36:13 PM · #17
Originally posted by Britannica:

and, the disadvantages of a LCD:

sensitive to viewing angle -- no real solution when there is more than one person using the system. Each will adjust the display for optimum viewing from their own sitting height.

cost -- LCDs have come a long ways, but I can still get a much better quality image from an CRT than I can from a comparably priced LCD, and I don't expect that to change in the next few years.



The first point is not really a problem anymore if you are not worried about the second point.

$800 for a 20" ACD is really not that bad when you consider what the price of a high end flat screen CRT was 5 years ago.

New technology.
09/13/2005 12:40:40 PM · #18
Originally posted by Britannica:

Originally posted by Nazgul:

who wants CRT´s anyways?!?!?!?

I do.

As I see it, the disadvantages of a CRT:
flicker - not a problem at the higher refresh rates a good CRT will have available at all but the highest resolutions.
size and weight -- not a problem as I don't plan on lugging it around, and the monitor stand on my desk is large enought to comfortably hold 2 21" CRTs.

and, the disadvantages of a LCD:
sensitive to viewing angle -- no real solution when there is more than one person using the system. Each will adjust the display for optimum viewing from their own sitting height.
cost -- LCDs have come a long ways, but I can still get a much better quality image from an CRT than I can from a comparably priced LCD, and I don't expect that to change in the next few years.

Having a sleek, stylish bezel is just not important to me, it's the image produced not what it comes from that matters -- and in that regard, CRTs still come out on top in a quality/cost/benefit analysis.

David


Ditto. I just replaced my failed Viewsonic CRT (lightning strike) with another 19" CRT. The available LCDs are pretty good but still not quite comparable (IMO) to CRTs for photographic processing. Just a question of time though, before the LCDs compete in both quality and price.
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