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10/07/2005 11:54:46 AM · #1
I'm narrowing down which site to use to create a photo book wedding album for my friend.

Shortlist as follows:

www.pixbook.co.uk
Excellent prices
Not hardback - cover = semi-transparent plastic
does offer full bleed

www.mypublisher.com
Hardback covers
Full bleed available
Extra thick and heavy, archival quality, acid-free paper
Prices not as good but still reasonable

www.shutterfly.com
Prices similar to mypublisher
Good choices on covers
Archival quality paper etc.

BUT I CAN'T FIND OUT ON THEIR SITE IF THEY ALLOW FULL BLEED PRINTING!

I haven't had any response from their support centre yet either.

If anyone knows, especially if anyone has had books printed by any of these, please let me know.

THANKS


10/07/2005 12:11:31 PM · #2
Scratch the question, I finally got through to their help line some and they do NOT offer full bleed printing.

SC please feel free to lock or delete this thread.
10/07/2005 12:35:08 PM · #3
Most of these services seem to have a very limited set of options for individual page layout. Does anyone know of a service that allows more page layout flexibility?
10/07/2005 12:54:27 PM · #4
Originally posted by joezl:

Most of these services seem to have a very limited set of options for individual page layout. Does anyone know of a service that allows more page layout flexibility?


Joezl
Mypublisher is the one I'm thinking of going with. Their layouts are reasonably diverse but, more importantly, they do seem to have one that uses the specified image over the entire page - that gives me the most flexibility as it allows me to create all my pages, with any layouts I choose, in Photoshop, and simply drop each page in as a single jpeg.

I'm currently awaiting their response on printing dpi, optimim colour profile and how much of the full page layout image I can expect to lose in order for them to ensure full bleed printing? Most softwares set up for this allow you to place the image so that a margin of it falls outside the page edge but I don't know how it works with their software - doesn't seem to give me that option - I definitely don't want thin white edges around any of the pages.
10/07/2005 01:44:14 PM · #5
I have looked into several books. asuka is a higher level book with some nice features that does offer full bleed and PS templates.

basically, take the page size, add 1/8 to 1/4 inch on all sides, set it at 300DPI and make your image or collage. save it as a jpg, although some will take a PDF.

//asukabook.com/index.html
//www.apollo-imagizing.com/illbooks_pricing.php is the one i was gonna try (first..i'd like to try asuka as well)

I just need to get off my butt and do it. i have been choosing to spend my time painting my house and getting ready for winter, which is taking a long time to get here (which is fine by me)
10/07/2005 02:04:28 PM · #6
Thanks,
I'll need to check prices too as that's a major factor for me.

Re mypublisher, getting proper response on colour profile to use is challenging. Here's a portion of their email!

~ Use sRGB or RGB when enhancing photos.
~ Use sRGB or RGB for black and white photos also
~ Our color profile is closest to Adobe 98
~ Our press prints 175 lpi (lines per inch)

So why am I being told to use sRGB when their printer is closer to Adobe RGB 1998?

Also they said:

Please allow 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch around all sides of your jpeg image to allow for the cropping. Without this allowance, any text or image placed at the edges of the jpeg will be cut off when the book is printed.

So I'll just drop in jpegs slightly larger than the page size and see what happens in the preview.
10/07/2005 02:08:53 PM · #7
There is a big difference in a book being printed on an offset press or high-speed color printer (like MyPublisher and Shutterfly do) compared to a book made up of images made on a real, chemically-developed photographic paper. Just something to consider.

Also check out Cornerstone Albums fine-art coffee-table style albums as well as Zookbinders.

Message edited by author 2005-10-07 14:10:10.
10/07/2005 02:20:57 PM · #8
I'm not sure what caliber of book you're wanting but I've done one through kodak.com and am working on another for a christmas gift. They are nice quality books & the color printing is true for the most part. I had one image that didn't reproduce well, it had lots of soft grey tones but aside from that one, it made a wonderful book. I thought the price wasn't too bad for the quality.
10/07/2005 03:01:44 PM · #9
Go Kavey Go! I have a printing project of my own to do, and better get on it to have it done by Christmas time.
10/07/2005 03:37:53 PM · #10
Eddy
I have a budget of around $50 for this book so top end solutions aren't really suitable. Thanks though.

Thanks Tuffy, Carol!

Message edited by author 2005-10-07 15:38:42.
10/07/2005 04:51:18 PM · #11
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

//asukabook.com/index.html


Did you create a login to get prices?
If so can I either borrow it or can you share prices?
THANKS!
10/07/2005 05:41:07 PM · #12
I have an account with Asuka; their cheapest option is a 7x7 stich-bound hard cover with 6 pages (12 sides) for $48. 10x10 book-bound hard covers start at $139 for 20 pages (40 sides).
10/07/2005 06:12:59 PM · #13
Originally posted by EddyG:

I have an account with Asuka; their cheapest option is a 7x7 stich-bound hard cover with 6 pages (12 sides) for $48. 10x10 book-bound hard covers start at $139 for 20 pages (40 sides).

Thanks, not suitable for me then.
I'm looking for a book that's roughly A4 and would want around 20-30 pages.
Thanks for checking into it for me.
Looks like I'll stick with mypublisher, if not I can fall back on some of the others in my longer list (other thread) or perhaps check out kodak.
THANKS
10/07/2005 06:43:08 PM · #14
I've looked at Asuka Books before and I seem to remember a lot of guff that they only deal with pros and that they'll check out your business before dealing with you, yada, yada, yada. For us hobbyists do you think they're viable?

Also, for anyone interested in top end stuff, this one here seems worth looking at. The parent company is Italian and Italian fine art printing is usually awesome.
10/07/2005 06:46:37 PM · #15
Pesky mypublisher needs an american credit card to buy >:|

Anyone know of any such things in the UK, or that take switch / maestro, or even paypal?
10/07/2005 06:53:24 PM · #16
Don't know for sure but I suspect Kodak will take anything from anywhere (they certainly need the money!) and the upscale one I linked to has a UK web site I think
10/07/2005 06:56:40 PM · #17
This may be too simplistic for you, but Apple makes some nice looking books. The prices are great ($39.95 for hardbound 20 pages), and they are full bleed. The downside is they ARE templated and probably require the files to be formatted with iPhoto. But if you're a Mac person, this could be a good option.

You can check it out at: //www.apple.com/ilife/iphoto/books/
10/10/2005 06:05:42 AM · #18
Originally posted by riot:

Pesky mypublisher needs an american credit card to buy >:|

Anyone know of any such things in the UK, or that take switch / maestro, or even paypal?

Crap... that's not something I even thought to check...
SIGH...

AI, I'm PC based but I'll check out the link, thanks...
10/18/2005 06:12:58 AM · #19
MyPublisher confirmed that they do (frequently) accept orders from customers in the UK using UK credit cards/ addresses.

EddyG emailed me with another potential service:

//www.sharedink.com

They look great BUT possibly don't do full bleed images, I'm waiting to hear. If not, looks like I'll go with My Publiser.
10/18/2005 09:57:45 AM · #20
Just for info for others.

I just got a PM from a DPC friend asking what I mean when I refer to full bleed.

My explanation was roughly as follows:

I want my images to cover the entire page, right to the edge. Because it's hard to cut the paper exactly where intended, this means I need to set the image to print outside the expected edges of the paper so that if the cutting is not exact, the picture will still go to the edge of the page without their being any white edges. Setting an image to bleed off the page simply means setting it to print past the expected edges of the paper, before that paper has been cut to size.

But I also then went and looked the term up and the much better definition I found on a brief search was this one:

Used when an image is meant to extend completely to all four edges of the finished sheet. Printing the image beyond the trim edge of a sheet to ensure that there is no white space at the edge after the substrate on which the image is printed is trimmed to finish size.

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BTW my understanding of bleed v. full bleed = bleed is when the image bleeds off the edge of the page on one side, or even 2. Full bleed is when it bleeds off all edges.

Message edited by author 2005-10-18 09:59:19.
10/18/2005 10:01:25 AM · #21
Originally posted by Kavey:

They look great BUT possibly don't do full bleed images, I'm waiting to hear. If not, looks like I'll go with My Publiser.

SharedInk does do full-bleed, but you have to be part of their Photographer's program -- it isn't something offered to the general public. The other benefit of being a member of their photographer's program is that they don't put any "SharedInk" branding on the books you create, you have access to several other book sizes and colors, and more storage space on their server.
10/18/2005 10:26:24 AM · #22
Eddy
Does it cost to join up or is it just a case of fibbing and claiming I'm a professional photographer?
Given that I only want to print this one book I don't want to have to pay extra for this stuff...

And heck, there's another consideration I hadn't thought of:

Do shutterfly, mypublisher et al include their own links and blurb somewhere in my finished books???

Message edited by author 2005-10-18 10:26:41.
10/18/2005 10:48:05 AM · #23
Originally posted by Kavey:

Does it cost to join up or is it just a case of fibbing and claiming I'm a professional photographer?

Yes, you do have to pay to take advantage of their special photographer's stuff. (It is a one-time fee though.) I don't know if they "check out your web site" and stuff to verify you're a pro or not; I was "approved" in less than 24 hours.

Originally posted by Kavey:

Do shutterfly, mypublisher et al include their own links and blurb somewhere in my finished books???

Yes, their books are heavily branded. Especially MyPublisher, which prints "My Publisher" on the front cover, prints a copyright notice and "designed by My Publisher" language on the back cover, and inserts an entire page in the back of the book about how this is a My Publisher product.

MyPublisher used to have a "Pro" offering which did not print all that stuff, but they discontinued it.

SharedInk's photographer-related offerings have no branding at all, and they even let you emboss 2 lines of foil-stamped text (in gold or silver) on the outside front cover of your book. (One line is centered right in the middle of the cover, presumably for you to title your book; the other line is right-justified near the bottom.) Or you can have an image for the cover, which is printed and securely attached to the cover into a recessed inset.

Message edited by author 2005-10-18 10:56:30.
10/18/2005 10:54:48 AM · #24
Watch out with mypublisher. I got a book from there and it's excellent quality but very saturated photos come out really dull and the colours all merge into an icky kinda grey. It's great for normal photos and B&W stuff tho.

The average colour photo is ok... an example of something that looked crap is this:

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It looks great on a monitor or when i got it printed thru truprint, but with mypublisher all the subtle changes in blue merged into 1 flat dull poopy area :(
10/18/2005 10:56:28 AM · #25
What colour profile did you use, Ben?
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