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12/01/2005 11:48:32 PM · #26
Some people are genuinely beginners, and just want to improve. They post pictures because they want to learn. They want other photographers to see their stuff and give them feedback on how to improve. Some people have no aspirations of greatness, but they like to shoot and share.

Too bad there's not a website where they can indulge those desires.

Oh, there is. It's right here. DPC!!
12/01/2005 11:48:43 PM · #27
Can't forget we have some very young photographers who have only just recently picked up a camera
12/01/2005 11:57:27 PM · #28
Originally posted by keegbow:

Some of the members here are children who are just learning and having fun.


And I thought we were all children playing with our "toys".

MattO
12/02/2005 12:13:55 AM · #29
Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by keegbow:

Some of the members here are children who are just learning and having fun.


And I thought we were all children playing with our "toys".

MattO


very true..
12/02/2005 12:15:17 AM · #30
It takes a lot of skill and talent to make a truly BAAAAD photo. If you take a look at any given challenge results, the vast majority of shots are at least ok or good or very good. There are normally only a small handful of shots at the end of the results page that are truly and honestly very bad. So therefore, they are actually the rare and exceptional standouts. Something to aspire to.

Maybe we should have a BAD photo challenge. Then we could really see who has what it takes to take a truly bad photo!
12/02/2005 12:32:07 AM · #31
[quote=fotomann_forever] So, you don't want me to enter any more? :-( [/quote

That means i am banished from the site too!
12/02/2005 12:52:21 AM · #32
Originally posted by hokie:

Can you tell the difference between a person who INTENTIONALLY shot a photo out of focus for the effect and the person who may be new and just had a hard time with their photo?


While it is hard to differentiate between a purposely out of focus and an accidental one, it is easy to tell whether the out of focus works on the photo or not, dont you agree?
12/02/2005 01:06:33 AM · #33
So it's probably a good thing I didn't enter this?

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:)
12/02/2005 01:06:46 AM · #34
Originally posted by megatherian:

It seems in every challenge there are a few shots that are truley aweful. I mean TRUELY aweful. Extremely out of focus, extremely dark, and/or no mind for composition whatsoever.

I understand people are learning, however the shots I'm talking about would improve just by turning the camera on auto and using the flash. I know you all know what I'm talking about. So why do people bother posting them? This is digital photography, I find it hard to believe that a better shot couldn't have been had / posted.


Because they're learning probably. Care to post any of your photos? Better yet, enter the challenges?
12/02/2005 01:10:08 AM · #35
Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by hokie:

Can you tell the difference between a person who INTENTIONALLY shot a photo out of focus for the effect and the person who may be new and just had a hard time with their photo?


While it is hard to differentiate between a purposely out of focus and an accidental one, it is easy to tell whether the out of focus works on the photo or not, dont you agree?


Everything is subjective
12/02/2005 01:11:44 AM · #36
Originally posted by Rikki:

Originally posted by megatherian:

It seems in every challenge there are a few shots that are truley aweful. I mean TRUELY aweful. Extremely out of focus, extremely dark, and/or no mind for composition whatsoever.

I understand people are learning, however the shots I'm talking about would improve just by turning the camera on auto and using the flash. I know you all know what I'm talking about. So why do people bother posting them? This is digital photography, I find it hard to believe that a better shot couldn't have been had / posted.


Because they're learning probably. Care to post any of your photos? Better yet, enter the challenges?


Would you take it better if I said it? I think the same thing, I wouldn't string him up just because he's honest.

Message edited by author 2005-12-02 01:17:44.
12/02/2005 01:16:51 AM · #37
Originally posted by stormy:

Everything is subjective


even saying "Everything is subjective" is subjective
12/02/2005 01:22:25 AM · #38
There will always be bad phptos, I can bet that you would say that about mine. Problem is Ive showon most of my work to some pros and they generally like the photos I enter, while non of them have bn a "10" on my or their one scale they usually aren't terrible. I do say I get a good laugh out of some of the opinions I do get. Some times elements are in a shot because that is what is there. Other times the OOF issue isnt really an oof and is more a DOF or a subject that is bright on a dark background and to get any details the bright object looks fuzzy, try getting a picture of the moon and the stars at the same time. Heck some people might not be using equipment like a D20 and all they have is a 640x480 P&S. Point is some photos may seem bad but usually are honest attempts, making comments like the one you made pushes people away makes them feel bad for even trying. A person who has the potential to be the next AA could be lurking here trying to learn and get diterred by someone being hateful and rude. So instead of belitteling people why dont you do somthing like give the people with bad photos constructive critisim so they will learn not to make bad photos.
12/02/2005 01:22:53 AM · #39
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:


Would you take it better if I said it? I think the same thing, I wouldn't string her up just because he's honest.


Maybe but then again, you haven't really entered anything yet (although it's weird that your profile says you've netered one challenge so far).

I'm not "stringing" anyone up. However, there are people who are learning. I myself am learning as well. Do I post "bad" photos? Of course. Maybe it's because I'm trying something new. What better place to try it out than here right? The beauty of this group is that no matter how "bad" an image is, there's always an opportuinity after the challenge to seek out what mistakes you've made if comments aren't left in the challenge.

This is how I've learned. From a measely 4.4 average I managed to bring it up to what it is now. Why? Simple. The people on this website make it happen. I owe a debt of gratitude to those who had helped push me along the way. I truly appreciate the comments, good or bad, because it helps me better my photography skills.

I agree with taterbug that there are a handful of truly bad shots but most of these are often found in the open challenges. Maybe duplicate accounts. Who knows but the fact is that the idea of "bad" is subjective. You might be an accomplished photographer and your idea of "bad" differs from those who submit them. For them, maybe it's a "better" shot than what they would normally do. They're happy about their entry. I'm guilty of entering bad photos, the Free Study as a matter of fact and it shows in my score and my comments. However, for me it was an experiment... a gauge if you will that I use to get the pulse that is DPC.

Again, my comment was not to "string" him up. It was more of a coax to submit photos in challenges and see where the cards fall.

Rikki
12/02/2005 01:30:35 AM · #40
I'm talking about really bad photos, not photos that could be better. I mean really, really bad. My version of really bad isn't subjective either.
12/02/2005 01:56:15 AM · #41
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

I'm talking about really bad photos, not photos that could be better. I mean really, really bad. My version of really bad isn't subjective either.

Hate to break it to you but Good and bad in photography are opinions and thus subjective.
12/02/2005 02:00:09 AM · #42
I knew this thread may come across wrong without examples, but I certainly don't want to point any out because this was never intended to put people down. For all I know some of the shots I'm talking about are posted by the best photographers on the site.

I certainly am not referring to the 3-4 rated photos, heck I'm not even talking about the 2 rated photos, and you are right, they are not in every challenge.

I do aim to start posting some pictures and entering the challenges but that's not the point. I wasn't trying to say I'm better than everyone, just asking if there was a reason why some people post photos so bad even they know they are awful. Perhaps I'll post some brown ribbon photos so you can all bash on me and feel better ;)

Then again maybe if you bash on my spelling and grammar enough you won't need to get your aggression out on me any other way :þ
12/02/2005 02:11:34 AM · #43
So what I'm hearing here is that many here like those pixelated cellphone type shots and consider them worthy adversaries in the challenges.

Come to think of it if those shots were not in challenges then those of us who take average shots would be on the bottom rung. I say keep em coming.

The funny thing is over and over these threads pop-up about the less than average shots; the posse shows up and beats the OP down, but meanwhile who is helping those that might need it?

We can candy coat it however we see fit, but you can't polish a turd.

Edit: Use of than instead of then...my bad

Message edited by author 2005-12-02 02:19:51.
12/02/2005 02:19:12 AM · #44
Originally posted by awpollard:

... but you can't polish a turd.



it might look kind of cool bronzed though :-P
12/02/2005 02:21:01 AM · #45
Originally posted by taterbug:

Originally posted by awpollard:

... but you can't polish a turd.



it might look kind of cool bronzed though :-P


I was thinking a nice polyurethane coating and grind off the corn chunks, a turd would shine quite nicely.
12/02/2005 02:22:09 AM · #46
maybe the next challenge can be "turd" and we can end this debate.
12/02/2005 02:23:47 AM · #47
good and bad are relative things, what is bad and awful to you may be great for the person who took it. If you don't like it give it one and go ahead. I guess lot of people are just learning (me included). I entered a useless shot in last challenge and i plan to do so again, its my way of learning, i am not born stud like you., And there are lot of people like me, i am afraid.

Originally posted by megatherian:

It seems in every challenge there are a few shots that are truley aweful. I mean TRUELY aweful. Extremely out of focus, extremely dark, and/or no mind for composition whatsoever.

I understand people are learning, however the shots I'm talking about would improve just by turning the camera on auto and using the flash. I know you all know what I'm talking about. So why do people bother posting them? This is digital photography, I find it hard to believe that a better shot couldn't have been had / posted.
12/02/2005 02:24:17 AM · #48
Originally posted by nemesise1977:

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

I'm talking about really bad photos, not photos that could be better. I mean really, really bad. My version of really bad isn't subjective either.

Hate to break it to you but Good and bad in photography are opinions and thus subjective.


Break it to me all you want, when it's so bad, it's not subjective anymore.

Message edited by author 2005-12-02 13:12:23.
12/02/2005 02:27:50 AM · #49
Originally posted by taterbug:



Maybe we should have a BAD photo challenge. Then we could really see who has what it takes to take a truly bad photo!


Now that could be a REALLY tough competition.
12/02/2005 03:23:16 AM · #50
Originally posted by megatherian:

It seems in every challenge there are a few shots that are truley aweful. I mean TRUELY aweful. Extremely out of focus, extremely dark, and/or no mind for composition whatsoever.

I understand people are learning, however the shots I'm talking about would improve just by turning the camera on auto and using the flash. I know you all know what I'm talking about. So why do people bother posting them? This is digital photography, I find it hard to believe that a better shot couldn't have been had / posted.


I'd like to see what you can come up with, mate.

Everyone has to start somewhere. Heres my very first attempt on DP with virtually no real camera experience. (My first digital)

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Cringe ... !

Whats other peoples first attempt like?
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