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12/05/2005 07:47:41 AM · #126
Originally posted by KaDi:

Originally posted by jsas:

Those threads that are about to die.... I salute you.


The thread thanks you....and so do I. =)


lol by the looks of it your trying for another thread kill. :D
12/05/2005 08:32:58 AM · #127
Originally posted by notonline:

lol by the looks of it your trying for another thread kill. :D


=) Fun, isn't it?
12/05/2005 08:46:27 AM · #128
[quote=megatherian] I mean TRULY awful...extremely dark...

Look up Rembrandt in Google Images.
12/05/2005 09:10:10 AM · #129
Originally posted by ThomLee:

I've also struggled with the thought that anyone driving faster than me is a maniac and anyone driving slower than me is an idiot.


How true.
12/05/2005 09:17:45 AM · #130
Originally posted by Flash:

Originally posted by ThomLee:

I've also struggled with the thought that anyone driving faster than me is a maniac and anyone driving slower than me is an idiot.


How true.


Anybody that agrees with me is an a-- kisser and anyone who does not agree with me is a moron :-D ( I stole that from somebody...)
12/05/2005 09:33:55 AM · #131
Originally posted by megatherian:

It seems in every challenge there are a few shots that are truly awful. I mean TRULY awful. Extremely out of focus, extremely dark, and/or no mind for composition whatsoever.

I understand people are learning, however the shots I'm talking about would improve just by turning the camera on auto and using the flash. I know you all know what I'm talking about. So why do people bother posting them? This is digital photography, I find it hard to believe that a better shot couldn't have been had / posted.


After having read through this thread and only read a couple of actual attempts to answer the question (I believe MK posted some answers and Bear Music posted an example), I offer my 2 cents.

Below is an example of an entry that was an attempt to do several things. 1 it was an experiment with a 50mm 1.8, an indoor shot of the outdoors at night, a selection of f/1.8 to increase shutter speed, without the resultant realization that out of focus would result, an attempt to get too cute, by having a rule of thirds framed inside window frames as another rule of thirds (which got edited out) and an attempt to "correct/fix" the other errors by photoshopping (read sharpen/USM etc.) In all it was a miserable failure that was actually just the beginning of a 3 challenge run (each with a 50mm) that produced my lowest scores to date. The reason I entered it was because I though I could get a way with it. I thought that because it met the "rule of thirds" (although at least one commenter dis-agreed), it would score ok and give me the learning/editing experience. It only succeeded in the experience category. The voters were brutally honest, as they should be. My mental lapse (aka "brain fart") in selecting a wide open f/1.8 indoors at night was foolish in hindsight. To try and think that I could fix it in photoshop was even foolisher. And then to enter it thinking I could "slide" through with an average score was the foolishest. The lessons learned however, will last a lifetime, and I hope to not repeat this mistake again.

Flash

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12/05/2005 09:48:01 AM · #132
Honestly I've asked myself the same question as this thread - but what I've even asked myself even more is ....WHY so many people score a 1 or 2 on photos that are OBVIOUSLY a 6 or more? And around and round we go.LOL
12/05/2005 09:58:51 AM · #133
Originally posted by Flash:

[quote=megatherian]....The lessons learned however, will last a lifetime, and I hope to not repeat this mistake again.

Flash

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I hope you do repeat the mistake because I think it means you are trying to go outside your comfort zone and learn, explore and maybe throw scores and the constant search for the perfectly photographed water droplet or whatever to the wind :-D

I think what hurt your photo here was the out of focus element.

Out of focus KILLS YOU ON DP CHALLENGE!1 Learn it, Live it. The lesson I learned (and still ignore :-P) is that out of focus is a dangerous line to cross. Voters look more for what is wrong with a photo than what is right..Out of Focus elements are like finding Waldo..once a voter sees it they automatically dismiss most fo the other stuff about the photo..probably because of the shear volume of photos to look at here on a weekly basis.

Remember, photography for most people is still a mechanical process, not art. So people look for mechanical errors and see anything that is not quite right as "operator error". If it were a painting then voters would say "Oh..out of focus...he must have mean't to do that cause..well..it's art" :-/
12/05/2005 10:01:50 AM · #134
You two deuling for a dubious honor?
12/05/2005 10:17:42 AM · #135
Why are some people so petty on this site? If you're not even submitting pictures I don't think you have any room to talk. Show everybody how it's done & then you can run your mouth.
12/05/2005 10:51:24 AM · #136
It's funny to me that the "non-camera owners" give you lower ratings than the camera owners. Those of us trying can at least appreciate the effort that went into getting SOMETHING in under the deadline.
12/05/2005 10:55:48 AM · #137
Originally posted by hokie:

Out of focus KILLS YOU ON DP CHALLENGE!1 Learn it, Live it. The lesson I learned (and still ignore :-P) is that out of focus is a dangerous line to cross. Voters look more for what is wrong with a photo than what is right..Out of Focus elements are like finding Waldo..once a voter sees it they automatically dismiss most fo the other stuff about the photo..probably because of the shear volume of photos to look at here on a weekly basis.


I discovered that myself recently. In my entry in an unnamed current challenge, I deliberately applied a Gaussian blur for effect. Sitting comfortably in the 4's. :)

Nordlys
12/06/2005 07:38:59 AM · #138
Originally posted by hokie:

Voters look more for what is wrong with a photo than what is right..Out of Focus elements are like finding Waldo..once a voter sees it they automatically dismiss most fo the other stuff about the photo..probably because of the shear volume of photos to look at here on a weekly basis.


Its easier to learn from what you've done wrong then it is from what you've done right.
12/06/2005 07:54:32 AM · #139
i post awful shots, apparently...

my 4's tell me so. just wish there was a warning light before i enter them... lol
12/06/2005 08:25:27 AM · #140
Originally posted by mk:

Why do people not proofread their thread titles? :(


Hey I did this! I can't believe that I spelled "speak" wrong! It is not even a hard word to spell. My spelling is horrible, but "speek"? I noticed it right after the challenge started and tried to get someone to fix it but they wouldn't. It was just a stupid mistake. I have never give low votes because of spelling. This is not a spelling contest...its a photo contest, ya know? I have also wondered why people enter in certain shots when they appear to be random clicks of the shutter. But I figure, that they really like it and think that it looks good. So I just vote on it. I am sure that we all have pictures here on DPC that are horrible to others. I know I have plenty that I wish never existed, and if there was some way to delete past entry pictures, I would have already done it.
12/06/2005 03:49:10 PM · #141
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Message edited by author 2005-12-06 15:49:42.
12/06/2005 03:52:57 PM · #142
Originally posted by mandyturner:

Originally posted by mk:

Why do people not proofread their thread titles? :(


Hey I did this! I can't believe that I spelled "speak" wrong! It is not even a hard word to spell. My spelling is horrible, but "speek"? I noticed it right after the challenge started and tried to get someone to fix it but they wouldn't.


It's actually a matter of couldn't, rather than wouldn't. We have no capability to change photo titles, only thread titles.
12/06/2005 04:02:33 PM · #143
Originally posted by megatherian:

It seems in every challenge there are a few shots that are truly awful. I mean TRULY awful. Extremely out of focus, extremely dark, and/or no mind for composition whatsoever.

I understand people are learning, however the shots I'm talking about would improve just by turning the camera on auto and using the flash. I know you all know what I'm talking about. So why do people bother posting them? This is digital photography, I find it hard to believe that a better shot couldn't have been had / posted.


With my camera it is hit and miss. I have three dead pixels, and only so many controls to work with. Sometimes I get lucky and sometimes not. I usually enter what I feel is my best with what I can do, and so far my pattern here with challenges isn't bad considering that plight. But,quite frankly, my camera sucks. I'm getting a nice new Rebel next year, but for now, that is my excuse if my shots are bad.

Rose
01/20/2006 04:52:41 PM · #144
Originally posted by Megatherian:

It seems in every challenge there are a few shots that are truly awful. I mean TRULY awful. Extremely out of focus, extremely dark, and/or no mind for composition whatsoever.

I understand people are learning, however the shots I'm talking about would improve just by turning the camera on auto and using the flash. I know you all know what I'm talking about. So why do people bother posting them? This is digital photography, I find it hard to believe that a better shot couldn't have been had / posted.


there before the grace of god go I
judge not lest ye be judged.
01/20/2006 05:20:42 PM · #145
Originally posted by blindjustice:

there before the grace of god go I
judge not lest ye be judged.

What was the point of resurrecting a thread that would have been better off getting covered in many layers of dust?
01/20/2006 06:16:41 PM · #146
Originally posted by blindjustice:

Originally posted by Megatherian:

It seems in every challenge there are a few shots that are truly awful. I mean TRULY awful. Extremely out of focus, extremely dark, and/or no mind for composition whatsoever.

I understand people are learning, however the shots I'm talking about would improve just by turning the camera on auto and using the flash. I know you all know what I'm talking about. So why do people bother posting them? This is digital photography, I find it hard to believe that a better shot couldn't have been had / posted.


there before the grace of god go I
judge not lest ye be judged.


Just when people were starting to warm up to me again. Judge away though I stand by my original question.

Edit: BTW, I believe that enough people understood my original question and it has been sufficiently answered at this point. I just don't think I'm a bastard for asking it - that's why I stand by my question.

Message edited by author 2006-01-20 18:35:07.
01/20/2006 06:27:02 PM · #147
Well, since it [b]has been[b] resurrected...
I had posted the not-so-un-serious point of view (way back on Dec. 2, 2005) that "They don't know."

I am now of the opinion that "Sometimes they do know what they're posting and it isn't necessarily bad--the rest of us may think so, but it's not."

>>>Mark this post as all will become much clearer next week when the "Road" challenge rolls over.<<<
;-)
01/20/2006 06:28:46 PM · #148
Originally posted by blindjustice:

there before the grace of god go I


I thought the saying was "There but for the grace of God go I."
01/20/2006 06:30:02 PM · #149
Originally posted by mycelium:

Originally posted by blindjustice:

there before the grace of god go I


I thought the saying was "There but for the grace of God go I."


That's how I learned it...from the lyrics of a song in "Brigadoon" (an American musical).
01/20/2006 06:42:36 PM · #150
There but for the grace of God go {I}.
John Bradford, Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins

Message edited by author 2006-01-20 18:43:06.
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