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02/08/2006 12:28:20 PM · #26
i dont think i am sapposed to talk about the curret challenge but.
There is one photograph in this challenge that i have seen in another challenge previously, but i cannot find it, so i will just let it go, but do any of you notice the same thing,
02/08/2006 12:39:53 PM · #27
I find it both amusing and frustrating to see threads complaining about lack of comments and then threads where somebody gets ripped for a comment they make.


As far as comments remember people, these are not just abstract pictures to fling your personal peeves at, there are people who worked hard to come up with what you are looking at and at least put their work out there to be judged, the least you can do is be polite when commenting on an image even if you don't like it be nice.


There have been two SC edits on this thread so far due to personal attacks about a comment (and no, it wasn't mine). Civility works both ways people. Don't complain about lack of feedback if you are going to hammer somebody for it.

I did that once about 8 months ago and have felt bad about it ever since (sorry, bcoble). Let's all grow up and enjoy our work / hobby / obsession.
02/08/2006 12:39:54 PM · #28
Originally posted by TroyMosley:

i dont think i am sapposed to talk about the curret challenge but.
There is one photograph in this challenge that i have seen in another challenge previously, but i cannot find it, so i will just let it go, but do any of you notice the same thing,


Hi Troy me too I saw that one and reported it to the SC. Don't know where it was before but it was in another challenge.
02/08/2006 12:45:04 PM · #29
I have voted and was very generous for all that actually met or at least tried to meet the challenge of motion panning. Those that did, good job!

I had a great idea for this challenge but could not get it executed in time. Maybe for Motion PanningII.

Best Regards
02/08/2006 12:47:10 PM · #30
Originally posted by northrop3:

I find it both amusing and frustrating to see threads complaining about lack of comments and then threads where somebody gets ripped for a comment they make.

As far as comments remember people, these are not just abstract pictures to fling your personal peeves at, there are people who worked hard to come up with what you are looking at and at least put their work out there to be judged, the least you can do is be polite when commenting on an image even if you don't like it be nice.


There have been two SC edits on this thread so far due to personal attacks about a comment (and no, it wasn't mine). Civility works both ways people. Don't complain about lack of feedback if you are going to hammer somebody for it.

I did that once about 8 months ago and have felt bad about it ever since (sorry, bcoble). Let's all grow up and enjoy our work / hobby / obsession.


OK Sam why quote me and leave out the fact it was me who said what you quoted?

I was not edited and I did not name names and I have been firm but not personal about my thoughts. I have never complained about not getting comments only that some scum choose to drop a bomb and do it without showing who they are. That is my problem.

I have always asked nicely anyone who comments on my image and I didn't agree with them why they felt the way they did. So again why bring into your post my comments about being nice when commenting on someone elses work? It has nothing to do with your point.
02/08/2006 01:39:43 PM · #31
Anyone get a 100 votes yet?
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02/08/2006 02:40:08 PM · #32
Originally posted by Bridog:

Anyone get a 100 votes yet?


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Updated: 02/08/06 02:36 pm

almost.
02/08/2006 03:25:13 PM · #33
Man did I screw up, Mines getting really beat up by the DNMC police. I guess: In photography, panning is a technique used to suggest fast motion and bring out foreground from background. Use this panning technique to create your submission.

My mistake is I read the challenge description and did a shot based on that. I guess I missed the Forum discussion that was about motion panning, I didn't know it was "only" about the shutter speed and blur, and how taking it out a car window was bad. Oh well, not complaining just learned its not about the title or the Description, its all about agreed forum definition. Sorry to hurt anyones eyes this week.
02/08/2006 05:19:21 PM · #34
Originally posted by angela_packard:

Doesn't it look like alot of people used motion blur? Wasn't that illegal!?


Getting motion blur (or motion stripiness) is part of panning. It's what it's all about - keep the focus with a moving subject, which causes the background to blur usually in a stripey fashion. "Stripey" is a non-technical photographic word.

What you do is use a low shutter speed (1/15, 1/30 or so), and match the movement to the movement of the subject.


02/08/2006 05:39:19 PM · #35
Originally posted by MPRPRO:

But this challenge is baffling to me. I would say out of 107 entries there are maybe only 20 or 30 that even meet the challenge.


I agree. There were entries that only had camera shake rather than a panned blur and entries that actually had everything sharp.

Message edited by author 2006-02-08 17:39:45.
02/08/2006 08:37:18 PM · #36
Where is Rikki at...geeeeeze. I come in here to check and see if he is going to get another ribbon, and I am let down by the absence of his presence. I wanna know Rikki....:P
02/08/2006 08:38:37 PM · #37
LOL! I'm in your thread and here you are :P

I'm here... been all over the board today <sigh> I tell ya, one minute you're on top. The next you're way down the earth's core ;)
02/08/2006 08:40:18 PM · #38
Hey rikki....by earths core you probably mean a 6.8 or something like that right? Seeing as 7 has pretty much become your average now:P
02/08/2006 08:44:07 PM · #39
well this seems to be a pretty low scoring challenge. lots of DNMC trolls around it seems ;( oh well. that's what i get for entering this challenge.

6.8??? pfffftttt! more like 6.5 :P
02/08/2006 09:07:31 PM · #40
Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by angela_packard:

Doesn't it look like alot of people used motion blur? Wasn't that illegal!?


Getting motion blur (or motion stripiness) is part of panning. It's what it's all about - keep the focus with a moving subject, which causes the background to blur usually in a stripey fashion. "Stripey" is a non-technical photographic word.

What you do is use a low shutter speed (1/15, 1/30 or so), and match the movement to the movement of the subject.


The shutter speed is what makes these difficult to do really well. Most people like to see a way blurred background with a well focussed subject. 1/15 or 1/30 will blur the background well, but it means having to have a real steady hand to keep the subject looking good. I had to resort to 1/60, which gave a bit better capture of the subject but now I'm wondering if voters don't reckon the background is 'stripey' enough (which would explain my crap average!).
02/08/2006 10:32:29 PM · #41
Originally posted by Qiki:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by angela_packard:

Doesn't it look like alot of people used motion blur? Wasn't that illegal!?


Getting motion blur (or motion stripiness) is part of panning. It's what it's all about - keep the focus with a moving subject, which causes the background to blur usually in a stripey fashion. "Stripey" is a non-technical photographic word.

What you do is use a low shutter speed (1/15, 1/30 or so), and match the movement to the movement of the subject.


The shutter speed is what makes these difficult to do really well. Most people like to see a way blurred background with a well focussed subject. 1/15 or 1/30 will blur the background well, but it means having to have a real steady hand to keep the subject looking good. I had to resort to 1/60, which gave a bit better capture of the subject but now I'm wondering if voters don't reckon the background is 'stripey' enough (which would explain my crap average!).


Agree of course that motion blur is the whole point of this challenge, and that the generally low scores are probably the result of voter missunderstanding... a lot of people will simply not understand that motion panning is a **skill** which involves rotating the camera to create this effect. This skill does not include driving in a vehicle next at the same speed as the subject which is extremely easy to do and lends itself to higher shutter speeds. I'm not complaining though, as I fully expected to see a lot of invalid submissions. I'm just hoping that enough voters do understand... so that even if the scores are low the good panning images will make it to the top. I polarized my votes to ensure that any shot that was a serious attempt at panning got a good score from me. Hope everyone else is doing similar.
02/08/2006 11:30:34 PM · #42
seems like the trolls are out in full force this beautiful evening ;)
02/08/2006 11:50:14 PM · #43
Originally posted by Qiki:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by angela_packard:

Doesn't it look like alot of people used motion blur? Wasn't that illegal!?


Getting motion blur (or motion stripiness) is part of panning. It's what it's all about - keep the focus with a moving subject, which causes the background to blur usually in a stripey fashion. "Stripey" is a non-technical photographic word.

What you do is use a low shutter speed (1/15, 1/30 or so), and match the movement to the movement of the subject.


The shutter speed is what makes these difficult to do really well. Most people like to see a way blurred background with a well focussed subject. 1/15 or 1/30 will blur the background well, but it means having to have a real steady hand to keep the subject looking good. I had to resort to 1/60, which gave a bit better capture of the subject but now I'm wondering if voters don't reckon the background is 'stripey' enough (which would explain my crap average!).


In general 1/60 is not slow enough to get good panning. The trick, I think, is to get the rythm of the subject. Once you get that, it doesn't really matter so much if your hands are steady or not, you're following your subject almost by instinct (or something like that) - the motion itself will keep the camera on a steady line. At least that's the way I learned it, and the way it's been working for me. Or not working :)
02/08/2006 11:52:05 PM · #44
Hmmmm good to know Ursula ;)
02/09/2006 01:36:43 AM · #45
I've become a DNMC nazi. But for this challenge only, I promise. And I'm not being a full on nazi; more an Italian national socialist (not near as mean, and willing to switch sides).
02/09/2006 01:37:33 AM · #46
well then change that 4 i got and gimme a good one :)
02/09/2006 01:42:55 AM · #47
Hi. Re 1/60 shutter speed. Its all relative depending on distance from subject, and subject speed. If you're photographing a very fast object like a racing car, or a close object, a 1/100 can still create a very long blur... if you shooting someone walking or on slow bike, 1/15 may be needed.
02/09/2006 01:46:33 AM · #48
No can do Rikki - none of my forus could be yours.

I've almost finished voting the whole challenge for the second time. Work is slow...
02/09/2006 03:02:36 AM · #49
Originally posted by kloutit:

Hi. Re 1/60 shutter speed. Its all relative depending on distance from subject, and subject speed. If you're photographing a very fast object like a racing car, or a close object, a 1/100 can still create a very long blur... if you shooting someone walking or on slow bike, 1/15 may be needed.


you're quite correct. 1/60 worked for my pic because the subject was moving at a reasonable speed and so i was panning at a speed sufficient to blur the background. for subjects at walking pace 1/60 is too fast and you end up either without much background blur (because the pan isn't quick enough) or without much 'stopping' of the subject (because the pan is quicker than the subject).
02/09/2006 03:52:29 AM · #50
1/60 worked for me, too, but my subject was super-fast. I think I may have cropped it too much to get rid of distracting blurs, though.
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