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02/18/2006 03:45:11 PM · #1
Does anyone have this and do you like it? What all does it do? I saw this in a store and was wondering about it.
thanks
02/18/2006 04:47:28 PM · #2
meh, go buy photoshop. its better. i have both and never use MS unless its for the library software, which isn't that good. really the only thing thats marginally better is its ability to print images, however, if you want to do anything custom sized, then you're out of luck again.
i would recommend the 100$.
02/21/2006 11:25:39 AM · #3
Microsoft Digital Imaging suite is something closer to what you would get working with Picasa.

I'll assume davmct is referring to Photoshop Elements and not Photoshop(which is both a very complex and very expensive program). Elements is a good as well, not quite as complex, not nearly as expensive, but you have to keep in mind that to a great extent, Photoshop anything an MS DI are not really competitor programs. Photoshops are digital image manipulation programs first and formost. MSDI is sort of a middle ground program, basic editing, combined with image management. Not as good of an editor as a dedicated program(Photoshop), not as good of a manager as a dedicated manging program. I'd call it a 90/90, that is 90% of the features needed by 90% of the people.

For me I think of it as something I might get for my parents to use, but is inadequate for anything I want(which ends up being 2 programs, a dedicated manipulator, and a dedicated manager).

You should first identify what your needs and uses are, Photoshop maybe completely wrong for you, either far more complex then you want, or far less capable in some functions then you want. You'll often get an automatic "go directly to Photoshop" response, but IMO it's a bad knee-jerk response.

So all that can be reduced to:
Are you just curious, or do you have some problems that are looking for solutions?
02/21/2006 12:05:31 PM · #4
All depends on what you want to be down the road. If want to get a job down the road that "requires" a Photoshop background than PS is the only way to go. If you want to be in the in crowd talking the PS lingo go PS.

If you want a low learning curve to Post-P than DIP is far easier and you can spend your time processing your photos, and you can do it immediately without picking any manual. I use DIP for all my editing and post processing. I can do all the same things the Adobe fans can, some things easier and some with a little more work.

The only thing that I do not like about DIP is it's image scaling...I believe it uses Linear as opposed to Cubic Interpolation. Meaning when scaling down (and/or save for web) to 640 for this site, a very large Photo could have the jaggies. I downloaded and use the GIMP (freeware) to Size my pics for here as it has Cubic interpolation (like PS).

For me it's all about do I want to work with a program or my photos...

I saw Digital Image Suite 2006 for $44.99 (after $40 rebate) at costco this weekend. Which makes it pretty sweet since it kicks the snot out of PS Elements and the likes.
02/21/2006 12:16:38 PM · #5
Originally posted by colema19:

Microsoft Digital Imaging suite is something closer to what you would get working with Picasa.

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Actually Digital Image Suite 2006 is:

Digital Image Pro 10 (Editor) with RAW support. Does Layers, Masking, Levels and Curves, Exposure Curves (Shadow, Mid, Highs), Color and Saturation Curves, Thirds-Rule Cropping (guide), Chalk-line Straightening tool, Panorama Stitching, a bunch of built in Filters, Uses Photoshop Filters, a bunch of photo projects...and more

Digital Image Library which is Similar but better than Picasa
Photostory 3 (which is free from Microsoft anyways)
02/21/2006 01:48:18 PM · #6
For what it is worth I'm with Andy. I use DIP 10 for most of my work. It is much easier to use than PSE 3 or 4, at least to me. I also agree with the scaling issue. PSE3 does a much better job for resizing images so I keep it around for that reason.

Whith all that said I now shoot mostly RAW so I use RAW Shooter Premium (used to use the free version which is fine) to do much of the work during conversion. Then I use DIP for fine tuning or applying special filters. Then PSE3 for resziing.

Guess the point is there is no one solution fits all.
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