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03/06/2006 06:00:15 PM · #1
Film is the best. I shoot more film than I do digital and with out a dought film ROULS.
03/06/2006 06:03:28 PM · #2
You know what I enjoy? I got a Digital Canon and a film Canon - Their controls basically the same. I play and experiment with diferent settings on the Digital - then apply the same settings to my film. This way I don't waste film and money experimenting.
When I do weddings, I use both my cameras. Film is nice, but I can't say the one is better than the other - I love both.
03/06/2006 06:05:57 PM · #3
This is an awesome thing to post on a digital photography site.
03/06/2006 06:07:26 PM · #4
:P Probably get my head chewed off but I think 35mm is pretty much dead. There is no doubt Medium and Large format completely blow away digital and will be around a while but look at where the industry is going.
03/06/2006 06:07:44 PM · #5
Hasn't the digital vs analog discussion been done before already? I think it's just a matter of taste. I think shooting digital has made photography a lot more accessable for many people.
03/06/2006 06:12:03 PM · #6
When you shoot film it is more of a challange, I shoot trans (SLIDE FILM) with a Hasselblad 500ELM or 500CM with out TTL or even a meter in the camera. I use a hand held meter. With print film you have a 2 or 3 stop fudge with trans you only have a 1/3 ftop fudge. It is so easy to shoot DIGITAL that it takes away from the skill and tallent of photography. If you can shoot good with a DIGITAL that does not mean you can do the same with film, but if you can shoot good with film DIGITAL is a snap. Most of the time I set my DIGITAL on Manual and ust my hand haeld meter for exposutr.
03/06/2006 06:13:36 PM · #7
digital is so much better. stop fooling yourself. why don't you stop driving your car and go back to horse and buggy?

drake
03/06/2006 06:14:46 PM · #8
Originally posted by adamweb:

:P Probably get my head chewed off but I think 35mm is pretty much dead. There is no doubt Medium and Large format completely blow away digital and will be around a while but look at where the industry is going.


In the world of COMMERCIAL PHOTOGRAPHY most clients want 4x5 or 2 1/4, that is still what the industry wants.
03/06/2006 06:15:00 PM · #9
Ha! You see, shooting trans lets you be happy just for getting a decent exposure. Shooting digital lets you be happy for getting a decent photograph ;-)

e
03/06/2006 06:17:54 PM · #10
btw. concede the point on medium/large format

drake
03/06/2006 06:20:05 PM · #11
Can any one tell me what you need to go to press with a DIGITAL photo? That is the real question. Digital photography is a great thing, I use it when it works, however when it comes to real world work it can not replace the LOOK and DEPTH of film.
03/06/2006 06:20:25 PM · #12
film is fun but spell checker is the best :)
03/06/2006 06:20:37 PM · #13
Originally posted by adamweb:

:P Probably get my head chewed off but I think 35mm is pretty much dead. There is no doubt Medium and Large format completely blow away digital and will be around a while but look at where the industry is going.


About a year ago my older brother said he thought that the dSLRs could give medium format a run for it's money. I laughed at him. Even the guy at the camera store I patronize said, "Not yet, but soon." I think soon has come. I recently had cause to have enlargements made of a shot I took with my Olympus, and one I did years ago with my old Yashica D. Both pictures were enlarged to 16x20. The digital picture held it's integrity much better than the medium format did. I was stunned. But, you still won't see my medium format cameras on eBay anytime soon.
03/06/2006 06:23:08 PM · #14
Originally posted by Seanachai:

film is fun but spell checker is the best :)


Yes I cna not type very well. I an over 50 and never took typing in school. However I have been a photographer for more than 30 years.
03/06/2006 06:24:12 PM · #15
Originally posted by sofap:

Film is the best. I shoot more film than I do digital and with out a dought film ROULS.


What the mortal heck is "ROULS"????

Oh, and by the way, I don't care which is best.

Message edited by author 2006-03-06 18:24:35.
03/06/2006 06:25:41 PM · #16
When was the last time you had a 40x60 print made from your digital that was sharp and crisp.
03/06/2006 06:26:30 PM · #17
Originally posted by adamweb:

:P Probably get my head chewed off but I think 35mm is pretty much dead. There is no doubt Medium and Large format completely blow away digital and will be around a while but look at where the industry is going.


Agreed. The 8mp SLRs are at least as good as 35mm film, but digital still can't touch medium or large format.

I just started playing with medium format and I'm having a blast. You can't shoot 200 shots at different settings and hope one comes out, can't photoshop out the power lines when you get home either. You have to stop and think and take the one perfect shot.

I'm using a loaned Voightlander Perkeo 6x6. I'm hunting for a vintage 6x9 folder if anyone has one laying around...
03/06/2006 06:29:08 PM · #18
Originally posted by LoudDog:

Originally posted by adamweb:

:P Probably get my head chewed off but I think 35mm is pretty much dead. There is no doubt Medium and Large format completely blow away digital and will be around a while but look at where the industry is going.


Agreed. The 8mp SLRs are at least as good as 35mm film, but digital still can't touch medium or large format.

I just started playing with medium format and I'm having a blast. You can't shoot 200 shots at different settings and hope one comes out, can't photoshop out the power lines when you get home either. You have to stop and think and take the one perfect shot.

I'm using a loaned Voightlander Perkeo 6x6. I'm hunting for a vintage 6x9 folder if anyone has one laying around...


Good job LOUDDOG now you got the idea. From fat finger SOFAP
03/06/2006 06:31:36 PM · #19
Originally posted by sofap:

When was the last time you had a 40x60 print made from your digital that was sharp and crisp.


you probably could have stopped with "When was the last time you had a 40x60 print made"

for anyone getting started in or working with photography now, it makes NO sense to do anything but digital for the vast majority of your projects. the simplified workflow and post-processing time is difficult to argue with.

film still has its purpose for some things...like, maybe 40x60 prints. but for the 99.99999% of us who have never blown up anything that large, it's not practical.
03/06/2006 06:33:26 PM · #20
Originally posted by LoudDog:

Originally posted by adamweb:

:P Probably get my head chewed off but I think 35mm is pretty much dead. There is no doubt Medium and Large format completely blow away digital and will be around a while but look at where the industry is going.


Agreed. The 8mp SLRs are at least as good as 35mm film, but digital still can't touch medium or large format.

I just started playing with medium format and I'm having a blast. You can't shoot 200 shots at different settings and hope one comes out, can't photoshop out the power lines when you get home either. You have to stop and think and take the one perfect shot.

I'm using a loaned Voightlander Perkeo 6x6. I'm hunting for a vintage 6x9 folder if anyone has one laying around...


I try to do that anyway as PS is not my strong point. I have a picture of an old mill that sits back in the woods. I like the picture a lot, but there's these !#@%#$#W%$# power lines. I can remove the power lines where the cross the building. I could remove them if the mill was surrounded by clear blue sky. What I can't do is get them out from amoung the tress the mill is surrounded by. That is just beyond my PS capabilities. The only thing I can even begin to think to do is take a nice blue sky pic, cut out the mill, and put it in that.
03/06/2006 06:34:35 PM · #21
Originally posted by sofap:

When was the last time you had a 40x60 print made from your digital that was sharp and crisp.


I know a guy that shot medium format, large format and film all his life...for the past year or so, he uses only a 1dsmkII...and he says, and I've been at his studio to witness, that it produces prints as large as mentioned above, just as good as his medium format system...film can't hold it's own vs. a 1dsmkII or probably a d2x for that matter...but you go on thinking what you think ;-)
03/06/2006 06:37:34 PM · #22
I just recently started covering sports for my university's newspaper and at the last basketball game I took over 400 photos. Now, I have a lot of respect for film (but don't use it much), but wouldn't shooting sports be quite costly to use film? This isn't the same situation as mentioned above about shooting a bunch and hoping one comes out right, but since this is an ever-changing event many photos need to be taken.
03/06/2006 06:40:06 PM · #23
35mm film has been around along time and has been good to us. Unless cost was is a factor, buying and printing film was/is expensive and that limited experimentation and creativity for some someone on a limited budget. With digital you can shoot your finger numb and not have to worry about cost once you're setup with a printer, computer, software etc. Technology moves on and the wise move with it. Let's review, anyone remember 8 tracks, cassettes, vinyl, Beta/VHS and the list goes on. Most of that stuff is history. Even Nikon has cried uncle and has stopped making most film based cameras.
03/06/2006 06:41:52 PM · #24
Seems to me you have film & you have digital. Two entirely different animals and should be taken as such. Not compared.

Just My $.02
03/06/2006 06:43:46 PM · #25
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Seems to me you have film & you have digital. Two entirely different animals and should be taken as such. Not compared.

Just My $.02


Amen.
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