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03/23/2006 11:28:53 AM · #126
Math Nuts who are deep in the heaviest level of Update Button Addiction have their ways of checking how their votes swing by keeping a really close eye on how their tally moves after successive votes.

After a dismal dip into the 4.6's, I'm back in the 4.75's after 2 votes and 2 comments!

Kinda interesting as one comment told me that my picture was too dark.... grmph.

While this could easily be just my image and a well-evaluated comment, I'd just like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that:

LOW KEY PICTURES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE VERY DARK.

[/rant]
:)

Oh yeah, my historogram peaks at the 22-23 level in the luminosity channel and doesn't go much past that...

it may indeed be too dark :)

Message edited by author 2006-03-23 11:35:27.
03/23/2006 11:35:12 AM · #127
How are you seeing your individual votes?
IGNORE - just seen previous posts!!

Message edited by author 2006-03-23 11:37:43.
03/23/2006 11:40:40 AM · #128
Votes: 95
Views: 139
Avg Vote: 6.6000
Comments: 7

its really starting to even out now. not good enough for a ribbon, but still a personal best.
03/23/2006 11:47:03 AM · #129
i just spent an hour grading pictures in the low key contest. i cannot believe how awful most of the images are!!!
03/23/2006 11:55:04 AM · #130
Originally posted by eschelar:

After a dismal dip into the 4.6's, I'm back in the 4.75's after 2 votes and 2 comments!


My submission has just crawled its way UP to 4.6!

Low Key

Votes: 93
Views: 122
Avg Vote: 4.6559
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 03/23/06 11:54 am


Shine, polished turd, shine!
03/23/2006 11:59:36 AM · #131
I was tempted to calculate the votes as stated above, but was really, really hoping for an easier way...


03/23/2006 01:26:37 PM · #132
Post. You can probably thank irakly for that jump in votes. I noticed that my vote moved in the happy direction after he commented and based on his work, I am guessing he knows a thing or to about what low-key is.

I'm skirting about the 4.8's now....

I'm with you on this one irakly. I've voted on a number of challenges before, but this one positively grates on me. I spent 4 hours...

45 minutes of which was struggling to make 3 votes due to severe site slowdown.
03/23/2006 01:39:54 PM · #133
Originally posted by posthumous:


Shine, polished turd, shine!


I sneak peeks at work when I can and it's no fair making me laugh out loud! You'll get me in trouble!
03/23/2006 01:52:05 PM · #134
Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by posthumous:


Shine, polished turd, shine!


I sneak peeks at work when I can and it's no fair making me laugh out loud! You'll get me in trouble!

That is my last turd reference. I just want to say for the record that "turd" applies to the skills of the photographer and *NOT* the subject matter... before certain parties kick my a$$.

yet it shines ever brighter!

Low Key

Votes: 104
Views: 133
Avg Vote: 4.7404
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 03/23/06 01:51 pm
03/23/2006 02:00:10 PM · #135
Well, my score has been dropping for the better part of two days. I'm still above my average and in good standings to place as one of my top photos, but kinda depressing to watch it drop out of ribbon range to maybe top 25 :-(
03/23/2006 02:29:34 PM · #136
I voted this challenge and have seen a lot of scores in the 4-5 range posted in this thread, so I reviewed how I voted and discovered I gave 35 images a score below 5. That is a lot.

In addition to many other things the most common feature images I voted below 5 share is the typical yellowish color cast you see in low light level images. Color casts can and should be corrected in post processing. But the score was usually in conjunction with other issues as well.

Message edited by author 2006-03-23 14:30:35.
03/23/2006 03:15:12 PM · #137
Out of curiosity, how do you keep something on the order of a candlelight photo looking nice and warm while 'removing' the yellow cast? And in general, what's wrong with keeping the color that bare eyeballs can see, why must it be removed from a photo in post-processing? (I believe in case-by-case assessment vs. should alwayses.)
03/23/2006 03:19:14 PM · #138
Votes: 118
Views: 145
Avg Vote: 5.9068
Comments: 4
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0

03/23/2006 03:28:08 PM · #139
Originally posted by meanwile:

Out of curiosity, how do you keep something on the order of a candlelight photo looking nice and warm while 'removing' the yellow cast? And in general, what's wrong with keeping the color that bare eyeballs can see, why must it be removed from a photo in post-processing? (I believe in case-by-case assessment vs. should alwayses.)


Our eyeballs are pretty amazing. They do what amounts to automatic white balancing without you even noticing it--things look about the same to use under either daylight or light bulbs. When we remove a color cast in post processing, we are just helping the camera do what our eyes do for us automatically.

But I certainly agree that it would be a mistake to remove the warmth from a candle-lit image. We should remove just enough of the excess color to make it match our subjective sense of what a candle-lit scene looks like. As you said, we need to do a case-by-case assessment.

--Dan
03/23/2006 03:29:30 PM · #140
Originally posted by meanwile:

Out of curiosity, how do you keep something on the order of a candlelight photo looking nice and warm while 'removing' the yellow cast? And in general, what's wrong with keeping the color that bare eyeballs can see, why must it be removed from a photo in post-processing? (I believe in case-by-case assessment vs. should alwayses.)


yellow can be removed with a blue filter...if you shoot in RAW this can be done before conversion.
03/23/2006 03:30:10 PM · #141
Originally posted by stdavidson:


In addition to many other things the most common feature images I voted below 5 share is the typical yellowish color cast you see in low light level images. Color casts can and should be corrected in post processing. But the score was usually in conjunction with other issues as well.


Typical of low light level images? Dude, what the hell are you talking about?

Sometimes WB might be off on images, sometimes it might be intended, but it's not a feature "common" to low light level images. It's a function of a) the photographer fforgot to set WB or b)the photographer intentionally stuck with a warm effect.

Option B has been used by photographers since the invention of color film. It is quite common to use daylight balanced film with tungsten lighting to "warm" a shot.

Got a good joke for you guys:
Guy gets on a plane and finds himself seated next to a cute blonde. He immediately turns to her and makes his move.
"You know," he says, "I've heard that flights will go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger. So let's talk."
The blonde, who had just opened her book, closes it slowly and says to the guy, "What would you like to discuss?"
"Oh, I don't know," says the guy, smiling. "How about nuclear power?"
"OK," says the blonde. "That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff -- grass. Yet the deer excretes little pellets, the cow turns out a flat patty, and the horse produces muffins of dried poop. Why do you suppose that is?"
The guy is dumbfounded. Finally he replies, "I haven't the slightest idea."
"So tell me," says the blonde, "How is it that you feel qualified to discuss nuclear power when you don't know sh*t?"

Message edited by author 2006-03-23 15:35:44.
03/23/2006 03:36:27 PM · #142
LMAO
03/23/2006 04:04:07 PM · #143
Tempting fate, dropped slightly in the last couple of hours. great to grab some favs though.

Votes: 119
Views: 176
Avg Vote: 6.6891
Comments: 9
Favorites: 3

03/23/2006 04:09:35 PM · #144
Thanks Fotoman...i needed that.
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03/23/2006 06:35:40 PM · #145
Ooops, 2nd sub 5 score in a row :(

Votes: 110
Views: 136
Avg Vote: 4.8545
Comments: 4

Another case of good idea badly executed.
03/23/2006 06:58:28 PM · #146
back above 5. thanks god. hope I stay there!
03/23/2006 07:41:52 PM · #147
Hi everyone!
I tried to keep away from DPC for the day, hence to keep calm about my entry. Well, I couldn't resist any longer and took a look:

Votes: 110
Views: 155
Avg Vote: 5.2545
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 03/23/06 07:10 pm

I am totally inexperienced about scores and voting habits here, this being my first submission and I just can't imagine where my pic would finish. I am sure that not on the higher end that is okay, because it isn't that good. It was just the best I could manage... I just wish I would get more comments, because that's why I submitted in the first place. :(

Message edited by author 2006-03-23 19:43:19.
03/23/2006 07:56:25 PM · #148
[quote=chili] Hi everyone!
I am totally inexperienced about scores and voting habits here...

Don't worry about being inexperienced. Many of the voters seem to be as this thread will attest. In the last 30 minutes, I've received three votes. 8, 7 and 2. There isn't any real pattern here other than that the ribbon winners are usually the best pics of the challenge. Also, you'll probably notice that at least one third of the entries aren't "low-key" images. Funny thing is that some of those will finish well.
It's all fun. Don't worry about the scores. You're right to look to comments. Even then, I've learned infinitely more about photography and equipment from forums and links included in forums than from comments.

03/23/2006 08:11:09 PM · #149
Originally posted by cislander:

[quote=chili] Hi everyone!
I am totally inexperienced about scores and voting habits here...

It's all fun. Don't worry about the scores. You're right to look to comments. Even then, I've learned infinitely more about photography and equipment from forums and links included in forums than from comments.


That's what I think, too. :) I enjoy taking photos, but I got to a stage when I feel that I can't improve further without help. So I am counting on the comments and will take your advice and browse through the forum topics. Thanks a bunch for the suggestion!
03/24/2006 11:29:32 AM · #150
All I have to say is I think that the Deja Vu voting has distracted certain unwanted voters :-)
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