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03/22/2006 01:43:16 AM · #1
Ok, so I know that this photo had some mixed reviews, but I really appreciate all the comments, good and bad. What I found funny is that everyone seemed to be at opposite ends of the spectrum as far as comments are concerned. You either hated it or loved it. I understand that some people may not have been able to see what the photo was about, because in a way it is a little abstract I guess. What I really want to know is if anyone scored it lower because you didn't understand what it was about, couldn't tell what it was, etc. Thanks again everyone...better luck next time...I hope!!!

Hard Lessons Learned (Never By Some)
03/22/2006 02:43:36 PM · #2
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03/22/2006 03:05:03 PM · #3
Originally posted by bowronfam3:

What I really want to know is if anyone scored it lower because you didn't understand what it was about, couldn't tell what it was, etc. Thanks again everyone...better luck next time...I hope!!!
Hard Lessons Learned (Never By Some)

I did not mark down in the score. I am not convinced that it is real good fit to the challenge title, but scored it an 8 simply because I think it is very well done and in at least a minimalist manner, it does meet the challenge.
-Gene L.
03/22/2006 03:29:38 PM · #4
I thought it was interesting. The distortion of the face (eye especially) was a bit creepy. I gave it a 5.

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I also find it interesting that you've gotten a fair amount of comments during the challenge - yet you only found two of them helpful?
03/22/2006 03:46:34 PM · #5
Abuse. The school of hard knocks. Learning from ones mistakes (hangovers). Aversion therapy. These things spring to mind, rather than the subject "education." I suppose it depends on ones point of view and locality in life. Splitting the audience in two - antagonistic and sympathetic - is what many image makers hope to achieve.
03/22/2006 03:51:35 PM · #6
I gave it a 7. I found it to be well done and relavant. I feel that a 7 is a great score since most "highly rated" scores are in the high 6s or low 7s
03/22/2006 03:55:13 PM · #7
I see you had the same idea as I did and you got about the same response - Although I think yours is a much better photo - Unfortunately I didn't vote in this one, but I would've given you 8 or more.
I like the "diferent than normal classroom" take on the education challenge. Others are too steriotypical.

THINK OUT THE BOX PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

Here is mine.
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03/22/2006 05:09:59 PM · #8
Originally posted by glad2badad:

I thought it was interesting. The distortion of the face (eye especially) was a bit creepy. I gave it a 5.

I also find it interesting that you've gotten a fair amount of comments during the challenge - yet you only found two of them helpful?


That is by pure laziness! Just hadn't gotten around to it yet, I'll do it real quick! Thanks for the comments everyone, it's appreciated. I just wanted to see if I was way off base with this one, or if people just couldn't tell what it was, or something else. I feel much better about my entry now, regardless of the score! :)
03/22/2006 05:22:03 PM · #9
It wasn't technically or compositionally well-done, to be honest. I think your score is shockingly good considering the quality of the photo.
03/22/2006 06:38:20 PM · #10
Originally posted by Hail the Heartbreaker:

It wasn't technically or compositionally well-done, to be honest. I think your score is shockingly good considering the quality of the photo.


Oh, really? Would you mind to be more specific? I did get a few comments about too much grain in the photo, however I think that it adds to the uneasy feel of the shot, no? I would also just like to add that I'm shooting with a Nikon Coolpix 5600, just a little point and shoot camera. I am getting a Canon Rebel XT very soon, very excited about that!!
03/22/2006 06:42:43 PM · #11
Originally posted by bowronfam3:

Originally posted by Hail the Heartbreaker:

It wasn't technically or compositionally well-done, to be honest. I think your score is shockingly good considering the quality of the photo.


Oh, really? Would you mind to be more specific? I did get a few comments about too much grain in the photo, however I think that it adds to the uneasy feel of the shot, no? I would also just like to add that I'm shooting with a Nikon Coolpix 5600, just a little point and shoot camera. I am getting a Canon Rebel XT very soon, very excited about that!!


I see Hail the Heartbreaker likes to stir. LOL.
03/22/2006 06:55:04 PM · #12
Originally posted by bowronfam3:

Originally posted by Hail the Heartbreaker:

It wasn't technically or compositionally well-done, to be honest. I think your score is shockingly good considering the quality of the photo.


Oh, really? Would you mind to be more specific? I did get a few comments about too much grain in the photo, however I think that it adds to the uneasy feel of the shot, no? I would also just like to add that I'm shooting with a Nikon Coolpix 5600, just a little point and shoot camera. I am getting a Canon Rebel XT very soon, very excited about that!!


I'll take a stab at that; I see two major flaws, and the graininess isn't one of them. I see artifacts from over-aggresive sharpening, and I see a composition where nearly half the picture (the foreground) is bringing nothing to the party. If you'd had, for example, an expanding puddle of spilled booze seeping across the foreground, this would have worked better for me.

Robt.

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03/22/2006 07:09:57 PM · #13
I have a point and shoot too, and probably the worst point and shoot of anybody on DPC. It cost me $175.

Pretty much what Bear Music said. Oversharpening does not redeem a badly taken photo.

I'm not very fond of the whole the "creative" (ie. has nothing to do with challenge except in title) route. For the next challenge, maybe I'll take a picture of whatever I want, completely unrealted to anything, then when people score me down, be all like "You guys just aren't creative enough to UNDERSTAND me."
03/22/2006 11:13:04 PM · #14
Originally posted by Hail the Heartbreaker:

I have a point and shoot too, and probably the worst point and shoot of anybody on DPC. It cost me $175.

Pretty much what Bear Music said. Oversharpening does not redeem a badly taken photo.

I'm not very fond of the whole the "creative" (ie. has nothing to do with challenge except in title) route. For the next challenge, maybe I'll take a picture of whatever I want, completely unrealted to anything, then when people score me down, be all like "You guys just aren't creative enough to UNDERSTAND me."


WOAH! WHOAH! WHOAH! I don't reacall ever saying that someone wasn't creative enough to understand me. There are many different forms of "education". Education is not limited to the school building, books, teachers, and kids. I began this post to better understand what it was that some people didn't like about the shot, I was by no means whinning about my score. To leave a reply that basically says, "composition sucks, and so does the photo.", isn't feedback at all. Before you begin giving critique, learn what's useful in the photography business, hun!
03/23/2006 03:38:37 PM · #15
If you're going to take that route, pretty much everything we do is a learning experience and can be construed as "education." You have to draw the line somewhere, or it gets ridiculous. It seems you jsut took this picture, liked it, and thought "what title could I tack on to make it seem as though it's about education?"

Your composition wasn't good. It was a badly taken photo. It was oversharpened to make up for lack of quality. I'm sure that isn't the feedback you want to hear--I'm sure you just want to hear how creative and wonderful you are--but I decided to be honest instead. If you can't handle honesty, maybe you shouldn't have devoted an entire thread to your picture?

And "hun," I may not be elderly and have 40 years of photography experience, but apparently I know what's better in the education-photography business. Zing!
03/23/2006 03:41:46 PM · #16
No need for personal attacks. Let's keep it civil, please.
03/23/2006 04:52:17 PM · #17
So much for civil! :P
03/23/2006 04:54:26 PM · #18
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