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04/14/2006 01:44:46 PM · #1
okay, I was wrong you can make something from nothing in Photoshop.

2000 hours, 15,000 layers and a 'photo' of a railway station.
04/14/2006 01:49:48 PM · #2
Would have been a lot easier if he just snapped a picture! :)
04/14/2006 01:59:34 PM · #3
Originally posted by JayWalk:

Would have been a lot easier if he just snapped a picture! :)


That's what "they" say to all the photo-realist painters too :-) I say, "You gotta love obsession in whatever form it manifests itself!"

This is an incredible piece of work...

R.


04/14/2006 02:23:54 PM · #4
Amazing and I think "obsession" is not quite strong enough in this case :-) While it certainly has advantages (no back of heads in shot e.t.c.), there are a couple of minor downsides that will limit it's general use right now - like 2000 hours and a 1.7Gb flattened file :-0).
04/14/2006 02:31:30 PM · #5
Whatever you may call this artist, he is a master.

I am the grasshopper.
04/14/2006 02:45:41 PM · #6
at first I thought it was a fake... just a snapshot that someone claimed to have created, but there are some perspective problems that make it clear that it was indeed created in the manner that it is stated to have been created. amazing.

what a waste of time.

drake
04/14/2006 03:01:01 PM · #7
You can get the same results in MS Paint in under an hour...
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Betcha can't even tell which one is real. ;-)
04/14/2006 03:02:26 PM · #8
I think pretty much every hobby or job or dream would seem like a waste of time to someone.
04/14/2006 03:02:31 PM · #9
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by JayWalk:

Would have been a lot easier if he just snapped a picture! :)


That's what "they" say to all the photo-realist painters too :-) I say, "You gotta love obsession in whatever form it manifests itself!"

This is an incredible piece of work...

R.


No kidding. I don't get this "waste of time", "lot easier if just snapped" attitude. Funny how the feelings are reversed when it comes to our challenges and someone does something in PS that they could have done in camera but doing it in PS was a lot easier. Probably what fuels these attitudes is deep down some photographers feel threaten by it. Not singling out anyone just a general statement.

Message edited by author 2006-04-14 15:04:55.
04/14/2006 03:02:39 PM · #10
I like the Bell System logo on the pay phone sign ...
04/14/2006 03:03:37 PM · #11
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

You can get the same results in MS Paint in under an hour...
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Betcha can't even tell which one is real. ;-)


I bet Philos31 ripped off your fine art piece and turned it into a photographic abomination! :P
04/14/2006 03:03:41 PM · #12
absolutely stunning. i don't actually like it, but the work and thought and time and ... madness that went into this are boggling. part of the amazingness of photorealist painting is the great painterly skill (although i also don't like that style much either), so i guess that's what this has going for it.

it reminds me a little of a hopper painting, but i can't find the one i'm thinking of. but the one below kind of shows what i mean. the emptiness. oddly, i like hopper.

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04/14/2006 03:04:53 PM · #13
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

You can get the same results in MS Paint in under an hour...
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Betcha can't even tell which one is real. ;-)


Another 1,999 hours more time dedicated, and a few thousand more layers and paths to this and no one will know if it is actually a picture from a camera, or just your hand and imagination.
04/14/2006 03:07:54 PM · #14
2000 hours ... must be a union job
04/14/2006 03:26:49 PM · #15
Originally posted by American_Horse:

...or just your hand and imagination.

Hmmmm...
04/14/2006 03:38:55 PM · #16
Originally posted by Gordon:

okay, I was wrong you can make something from nothing in Photoshop.


Incidentally, it's worth noting that this is NOT a pure photoshop exercise; the artist had this to say:

"Adobe Illustrator was used for generating the majority of the basic shapes as well as all the buildings in the Chicago skyline.
The rest was created in Photoshop."

I don't think it would be possible to do work like this 100% in Photoshop; it's just not designed to draw like that.

R.
04/14/2006 04:14:55 PM · #17
Originally posted by Bear_Music:


I don't think it would be possible to do work like this 100% in Photoshop; it's just not designed to draw like that.

R.


Seems like he did the graphic elements in Illustrator. I'm sure with some more patience and a bit more time/ dedication he could have created those in photoshop too. yes - being facetious, but there isn't really any reason not to do them in photoshop, other than ease of use.
04/14/2006 04:35:45 PM · #18
There's not a whole lot of difference between the Bezier curves as implimented in Photoshop and Illustrator these days ...

What I find maybe more interesting is that this is so seamlessly assembled from some 50-plus individual "tiles".
04/14/2006 04:40:00 PM · #19
Yep. That's what the Blue Line Damen stops looks like (Damen (2000 West), 1/2 block south of North Ave. (1600 North)). From this side of the platform, you would be heading away from the city to O'Hare airport. It's in the Wicker Park neighborhood. There is an excellent used book store nearby called "Myopic Books" and MTV's "Real World" filmed a few blocks east from here on North Avenue.
04/14/2006 04:40:25 PM · #20
Originally posted by GeneralE:

There's not a whole lot of difference between the Bezier curves as implimented in Photoshop and Illustrator these days ...

What I find maybe more interesting is that this is so seamlessly assembled from some 50-plus individual "tiles".


I think the 'tiles' are things like the side of the train car was one file. There was mention of copying/ duplicating things like that. I suspect the different files are the repeating elements.
04/14/2006 04:44:32 PM · #21
Originally posted by fstopopen:

what a waste of time.

This of course can be said of any endeavour that doesn't strictly result in anything other than personal satisfaction, including photography. From the front page of the artist's website:

"As a photo-realist painter, I have often been asked why I donít just take a photograph.Good question, when you consider my paintings look like photographs. Well, for one thing, Iím not a photographer. To me, it is not the destination that is importantóit is the journey. The incredible challenge of recreating reality is my motivation."
04/14/2006 04:44:45 PM · #22
Originally posted by Gordon:

I suspect the different files are the repeating elements.

Yeah, probably, but it also sounded like it wasn't always just one huge background canvas either.
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