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06/11/2006 09:19:04 AM · #1
hi all, here's a challenge for you problem-solver types... i have 25gb of photos that i need to distribute to 11 different people (in the next few days). are there places where i can bring a hard drive or laptop with all the photos and get them distributed across dvds? has anybody else found creative ways to do this? you guys are bomb. thanks in advance for the wisdom!
-Dan
06/11/2006 09:56:52 AM · #2
6 dvd 'each unless you go for dual layer ($$)
66 dvd's /// tht would take a wack of time to reproduce ...

(hey Daniel, i was born in Bellingham Wa. ;) but that was aloooong time ago ..)

06/11/2006 10:45:38 AM · #3
Is there a reason you don't want to upload them on-line?
06/11/2006 10:50:33 AM · #4
Originally posted by L2:

Is there a reason you don't want to upload them on-line?


Because it would take 19 hours on a 3 megabit connection? Actually much longer, since the upload bandwidth is typically much smaller than down. For instance, it would take 74 hours on my connection.

Actually, I'm interested in some creative answers to this as well. I hae a similar problem, but only 6GB of photos and my time constraint is a couple months, not days.

Message edited by author 2006-06-11 10:52:20.
06/11/2006 10:53:21 AM · #5
I wonder if FedEx-Kinkos does data services?

Anyway for simpliciy, it would help to divide the images into folder of 4.7GB's or less to be placed on 6 different DVD's.

@L2 25GB would take a LONG time to upload and finding 25GBs of web space is hard and expensive.
06/11/2006 10:56:37 AM · #6
Why so much data?
Breezebroswer Pro can make that into web ready or other sized photos in a few minutes...I've taken 6-8 Gb of photos (RAW) and made 15-25Mb out of them (640x640)ish JPG. If you want hi-res JPG then you'll need more space.
06/11/2006 10:58:43 AM · #7
FedEx-Kinko's Does CD/DVD duplication.
06/11/2006 11:01:35 AM · #8
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Anyway for simpliciy, it would help to divide the images into folder of 4.7GB's or less to be placed on 6 different DVD's.

Personally, I've found that because of "file system overhead" the standard DVD really only holds about 4.2GB of actual data.

Consider making a set of "master" DVDs and taking them to a place which does music duplication.
06/11/2006 11:03:45 AM · #9
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Personally, I've found that because of "file system overhead" the standard DVD really only holds about 4.2GB of actual data.


That sounds about right.
06/11/2006 11:07:24 AM · #10
why don't you use winzip to zip the files? It will probably fit on one DLDVD after you zip it, and you can upload the zipped file also.

kg

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06/11/2006 11:16:34 AM · #11
Originally posted by specialk0783:

why don't you use winzip to zip the files? It will probably fit on one DLDVD after you zip it, and you can upload the zipped file also.

kg

If the files are JPEG, they are already compressed. Most compression programs (ZIP, StuffIt) don't make that much of a difference when you re-compress an already-compressed file; I find it's usually not worth the time for the small space savings, or the increased risk of error.
06/11/2006 11:19:37 AM · #12
@everyone who said web space is expensive: a 100 pack of DVD's is around $50 here. Comparable webspace could be had for at or near the same price; for instance, Smugmug has unlimited webspace for less the cost of a 100 pack, not to mention to cost to pay someone else to do it for you.... Uploading would take hours and hours, yes, but it can be done automatically while you are doing something else. Sitting and burning 66 DVD's requires user interaction and would take hours as well. Maybe not as many as uploading, but the convenience alone would make me pay for the web space.
06/11/2006 11:22:37 AM · #13
if you were going to do this repeadedly it would be faster to find a buch of "new old stock" 30 gig drives & ship thouse around ...
06/11/2006 11:39:37 AM · #14
Or, use a 25GB Blu-ray Disk and write everything on that ;-)
06/11/2006 11:44:24 AM · #15
No easy solutions :-

- The upload time would be large on most people connection (remember upload is usually a LOT lss than download) but this can be helped with rstartable ftp clients. Most would not have that amount of upload space, although it's more frequent now. I recently did a 10 day download, so it can be done (it was from a computer under somebodies bed - seriously - over his upload speed which dropped to dial up after some many Mb's).

- You could burn the DVD's yourself but at - say 7 discs per that will take time.

- You could use Kinkos or whatever but that is not likely to be cheap and will take time. You might be able to find an online service to create the DVD's but you would be back to been stuck with the upoload speed.

- Just to throw it out there => I know I could upload a LOT faster from work (they have a fast outside link attached to the network), so depending on employer and ability to get files onto their network (card reader over 2Gb flash cards?) that might be an option.

If all the participants are online with a fast link then I would just do the first one with a good FTP client.
06/11/2006 12:33:55 PM · #16
go to their place with a 10/100 router and setup a network... it'll still take a lot of time, but probably less than some of the other options. Or, you could buy some old hard drives for next to nothing, and just give them a copy. This is assuming they know how to install a hard drive which really isn't very difficult in most cases. Perhaps a USB2 hard drive would be a good solution.
06/11/2006 01:50:26 PM · #17
I use Bluehost to host 2 websites, each with 15 gb of space .. they aren't expensive either. Check them out.
06/11/2006 09:15:50 PM · #18
If you are thinking of transferring via the Net, then you have to consider what things are like at the other person's end, not just at your end. If they have only a 256 or 512 megabit link, then that amount of data would clog their connection for a long time. Also, it would depend whether they have monthly quotas on their downloads.

If time is not essential and quotas are not a problem, then you could use BitTorrent to distribute it. That way, the different people could use a BitTorrent client (such as Azureus) that allows them to control their download speed.

That said, for the amount of data you're looking at, I think that physical transferral will be more efficient than over the Net. Ralphnev's suggestion of buying some hard disks has a lot of merit. It may well be the fastest solution at both ends (reading/writing hard disk is quicker than DVD). If you do use DVDs, some burning programs (such as Nero) will let you burn multiple copies of the same DVD one after the other which cuts down on the time involved. If you can find a commercial DVD duplication service that's good - but if you know any schoolkids that would like to earn some pocket money, that's another option.
06/11/2006 09:38:17 PM · #19
if you have a laptop or an external hd (you can get those relatively cheap now), just throw those photos unto it and go to each persons house and transfer. If you are bringing your laptop, grab a switch or a router in case they don't have a network set up at home. Not the most professional way to do it, but then again, it depends who and where those people are... why don't you give us some more specifics and we'll think again :P
06/12/2006 01:25:11 AM · #20
A bit more information would be useful:
- Are the 11 other people geographically close (<10 km? <100 km?) or distant?
- Do they all need the entire 25 GB, or is each likely to be interested in only a subset of it?
- What are your timing constraints? Do they have to have the entire data within three days? A week? A month?
- Is it essential that they receive all the data as soon as possible, or is it ok for them to get some of it quickly and the rest to be trickle fed?
- What are your budget constraints, both for yourself and the others?
- Are you funding the entire operation, are they funding it, or is it being shared somehow?
- Do the other people have network uplink constraints (i.e. what speed internet, do they have monthly quotas they need to keep to)?

There have been plenty of suggestions so far, but knowing more about the shape of the problem will help find suitable solutions without wasting time on unsuitable ones.
06/23/2006 10:17:56 PM · #21
thanks for engaging and sharing ideas all! i hadn't thought of going the web route or bit torrent. i actually learned quite a bit about accessibility of those options. because we were under a several day time constraint and all 11 people live in different places all across the world, i ended up leaving my computer with a guy who does graphic design, had a few dvd burners, and wanted some extra cash. it took six dvds per person. total cost was $200 CAD or $20 CAD/person. not bad all things considered. took less than three days. picked my laptop up after the first day.
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