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07/31/2006 01:13:51 AM · #101
Originally posted by kyebosh:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by MrEd:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by L2:

Maybe someone could PM Firsty, and tell him he shouldn't be upset at losing a blue ribbon?


I'm not quite sure what happened there. I don't think any votes were removed, as the votes assigned to other entries appeared reasonable, we simply DQ'd any of the offender's entries that were influenced.

Wouldn't the 'ghost account' votes be deleted along with the accounts? Meaning they never existed.

P.S. Do the votes/rankings change automatically? Note the 4th place photo here


Not all of Rikki's entries were DQed. The DQed entries were in open challenges (not member challenges). The ghost accounts were not members.

proof that he didn't NEED those ghost accounts to do well.


So very true. And this is the really sad part about all of this.
07/31/2006 01:16:52 AM · #102
Originally posted by kyebosh:

...he didn't NEED those ghost accounts to do well.


Removing the extra votes likely would have left him with multiple ribbons anyway. Rikki just recently told me that he was proudest of his last ribbon because it was his first in a member challenge. Now I know why. :-(

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 01:18:23.
07/31/2006 01:17:07 AM · #103
I'd like to ask that all of the names be revealed.

I don't understand why Langdon didn't do that in his first post.

Rikki and apparently 30 others cheated everyone on this site for 40+ challenges? Why keep their names secret?

If Rikki hadn't emailed Idnic, we never would've know who it was.

I'll respect whatever the site admins decide, but could you please at least explain your rationale?

I, too, think Rikki's "apology" sounds quite hollow after 43 challenges.

So thanks again to the admins for protecting the site's integrity by taking this strong action.
07/31/2006 01:18:56 AM · #104
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:

Originally posted by colyla:

I've reread this several times....please tell me you're kidding.


Rikki's my friend and I'm standing by him. His photography is outstanding. I never once saw a ribbon-winning image of his and wondered why it won. I thought every one of his ribbons was well deserved at the time, and my opinion has not changed. I hate that this has happened and don't condone Rikki's actions, but I stand by my friend and my original statement.


You do understand that your behaviour is disturbing? Just my opinion...but really man....your idolatry of Rikki is .... well, scary.

I thought his photography was well enough to stand on it's own....."providing" it really is "his" photography....but to be honest I'm not in a fuzzy, warm mood to believe it's even his at this point. Again, not being ugly...just honest in my opinion.

07/31/2006 01:19:10 AM · #105
I think every time there has been a DQ or a suspension they have never posted the person's name but I could be wrong. I've always been curious as to why they do that also.
07/31/2006 01:19:10 AM · #106
I'm surprised to see it was him, he seemed like a really cool guy when he was here. He's a great photographer, and he definitely didn't need his friends to vote 10's to win anything. I'd like to see him back after the year, but I guess that won't happen.
07/31/2006 01:19:28 AM · #107
Originally posted by levyj413:

I'd like to ask that all of the names be revealed. I don't understand why Langdon didn't do that in his first post.


We have a general policy of not naming offenders. Just because they have no respect doesn't mean we shouldn't. Even without the posted apology, the DQ'd entries would have made his identity obvious.

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 01:20:59.
07/31/2006 01:19:46 AM · #108
Originally posted by levyj413:

I'd like to ask that all of the names be revealed.

I don't understand why Langdon didn't do that in his first post.


I've tried to stay outta this for several reasons. However, I have to jump in here... What exactly would this accomplish?
07/31/2006 01:19:56 AM · #109
This is really saddening, and i feel it is going to hurt all of us who had developed respect for Rikki's photgraphy. It is very difficult to accept when you are let down by someone whom you looked up to.

Site Council, great work! This only shows their dedication to really keep this site as a fair platform for learning photography.
07/31/2006 01:20:36 AM · #110
Originally posted by yanko:

I think every time there has been a DQ or a suspension they have never posted the person's name but I could be wrong. I've always been curious as to why they do that also.


'cause it gives you guys something to do. idnic just made it easy for you. :P
07/31/2006 01:20:42 AM · #111
Originally posted by levyj413:

If Rikki hadn't emailed Idnic, we never would've know who it was.


I think you misunderstand. The "pool of voters" Rikki influenced were non-DPC, non-participiating registered users. He never emailed me, or any other member that I am aware of about his entries. The voters he influenced, to my understanding, were co-workers. That is all I will say about that. He did email his appology to me and I posted it for him.
07/31/2006 01:21:09 AM · #112
so if we know who entered in a picture for a challenge than should we just not vote on it or try are best to put the correct score on it
07/31/2006 01:21:34 AM · #113
Originally posted by levyj413:

I'd like to ask that all of the names be revealed.

I don't understand why Langdon didn't do that in his first post.

Rikki and apparently 30 others cheated everyone on this site for 40+ challenges? Why keep their names secret?

If Rikki hadn't emailed Idnic, we never would've know who it was.

I'll respect whatever the site admins decide, but could you please at least explain your rationale?

I, too, think Rikki's "apology" sounds quite hollow after 43 challenges.

So thanks again to the admins for protecting the site's integrity by taking this strong action.


To clarify, these were outside individuals who for the most part only voted; not establisted DPC users. The names associated with these accounts would not mean anything to anyone, so there is no point in listing them.

It is our policy not to announce names with suspension announcements; in part for legal reasons but mostly because what's important is the offense that was committed and the action taken in response to it. We prefer to keep the focus on that rather than in dragging someone's name through the mud, especially in a forum where they do not have an opportunity to respond.

~Terry

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 01:24:25.
07/31/2006 01:23:33 AM · #114
Originally posted by colyla:

Originally posted by PhilipDyer:

Originally posted by colyla:

I've reread this several times....please tell me you're kidding.


Rikki's my friend and I'm standing by him. His photography is outstanding. I never once saw a ribbon-winning image of his and wondered why it won. I thought every one of his ribbons was well deserved at the time, and my opinion has not changed. I hate that this has happened and don't condone Rikki's actions, but I stand by my friend and my original statement.


You do understand that your behaviour is disturbing? Just my opinion...but really man....your idolatry of Rikki is .... well, scary.

I thought his photography was well enough to stand on it's own....."providing" it really is "his" photography....but to be honest I'm not in a fuzzy, warm mood to believe it's even his at this point. Again, not being ugly...just honest in my opinion.


I don't know Philip but why do you find his behavior disturbing? Do you know him or just going by his post? Now, if a friend or family member of yours did something similar what's your reaction? Just an honest question and please don't tell me none of your friends or family would ever do such a thing. It's just a hypothetical question.

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 01:24:15.
07/31/2006 01:23:34 AM · #115
Originally posted by levyj413:

I'd like to ask that all of the names be revealed.

I don't understand why Langdon didn't do that in his first post.

Rikki and apparently 30 others cheated everyone on this site for 40+ challenges? Why keep their names secret?

If Rikki hadn't emailed Idnic, we never would've know who it was.

I'll respect whatever the site admins decide, but could you please at least explain your rationale?

I, too, think Rikki's "apology" sounds quite hollow after 43 challenges.

So thanks again to the admins for protecting the site's integrity by taking this strong action.


Just so nobody goes around worrying without need. These other accounts were not well known users, not even medium known users.

07/31/2006 01:23:55 AM · #116
Originally posted by DevonT:

so if we know who entered in a picture for a challenge than should we just not vote on it or try are best to put the correct score on it


Correct. It's not against the rules to vote on a friend's entry. It's against the rules to vote dishonestly on a friend's entry, or to ask a friend to vote dishonestly on yours.

~Terry
07/31/2006 01:24:23 AM · #117
Originally posted by DevonT:

so if we know who entered in a picture for a challenge than should we just not vote on it or try are best to put the correct score on it


Take your pick. You just can't assign an undeserved score on a "known" entry. If you're sure you can be impartial, then vote. If not, don't.

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 01:24:34.
07/31/2006 01:24:54 AM · #118
Just wanted to add a few more points

What Rikki has done was totally wrong.

Being banned from the site is what was required.

Iím angry at him because he has let his 20D team down.

I do not feel sad for him at all.

But letís also remember he brought a lot of happiness to the site

Harvey my apologies you were right this type of thing could and was happening.

It's great to see the admin a catching the cheats.

Now I can start looking at the next challenge.

07/31/2006 01:25:36 AM · #119
ok thanks
07/31/2006 01:25:52 AM · #120
Correct. It's not against the rules to vote on a friend's entry. It's against the rules to vote dishonestly on a friend's entry, or to ask a friend to vote dishonestly on yours.

~Terry


Is this more widespread that we think?

PS...thanks SC for moving my last entry in ABSTRACT FOOD up to red ribbon status! woo hoo. I went from 4th to third last week, now this...
07/31/2006 01:25:56 AM · #121
speechless . :(

eta: but I still can't spell

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 01:26:17.
07/31/2006 01:26:21 AM · #122
Originally posted by DevonT:

so if we know who entered in a picture for a challenge than should we just not vote on it or try are best to put the correct score on it


The last option is the best in my opinion. There are quite a few situations here like yours, where you and your father both are member, and you're likely to know your father's entry and he yours. It is always more difficult to be totally fair in these cases, but try your best.

If you can't be fair about it, then abstaining (not voting on the image) would be another solution.

07/31/2006 01:28:28 AM · #123
Originally posted by hotpasta:

Is this more widespread that we think?


I still don't believe in trolls...

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 01:29:09.
07/31/2006 01:28:29 AM · #124
i liked having rikki around, as did most of us... and i must say, his photography usually deserved a high score... (i say usually, cause i hated the mushroom pic... oh well...)

it's all a shame, really... good on the admins and SC for their hard work...

i'll say a prayer (or three) for rikki... he obviously needs it.

and a prayer, too, for everyone who's angry and hurt... for healing and forgiveness...

"love covers a multitude of sins." i think read that somewhere...
07/31/2006 01:29:08 AM · #125
Originally posted by hotpasta:

thanks SC for moving my last entry in ABSTRACT FOOD up to red ribbon status!


Don't get too excited just yet. I think the recalculation will be running for a while in the background, and some placements could still shift.
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