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07/31/2006 01:57:27 AM · #176
Originally posted by DevonT:

although i believe that people are going a bit overboard with what he did, think, estimate about how many people do you think have done that before, i bet it was well over a third of all registered users maybe even over half.

what i'm saying is what he did is wrong but DON'T BE SO SERIOUS ABOUT IT, just calm down a little and don't be as defensive.

this IS serious, and if you really read into what the people who you think are going overboard about it, you might gain some insight into how people feel about rules and the role they play in our society.
07/31/2006 01:58:23 AM · #177
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Message edited by author 2006-07-31 03:59:39.
07/31/2006 01:59:16 AM · #178
I could NEVER trust someone who cheated this much ever again. I'd be nice and friendly and act like nothing happened but in the back of my mind, I'd always wonder if this person was telling the truth or doing the right thing.

How in the world could anyone in their right mind completely ever forget this happened...You need to always be on guard even if you forgive and move on.

Edit to add:

This is just cheap. How could ill-gotten scores ever mean anything to someone. If you knew you were cheating, those scores and ribbons are so meaningless. Why would anyone put so much effort into cheating anyway...Very sad that this was that important to Rikki that he had to cheat.

Message edited by author 2006-07-31 02:07:50.
07/31/2006 01:59:19 AM · #179
Originally posted by macpapas:


In a nutshell, Rikki made a mistake. Rikki has a passion for photography and has an almost bigger passion for this site. Rikki's mistake was to share this passion with his friends a little to soon. He did not purposely solicit the votes received nor conger up a scheme to dupe the DPC community.


It isn't that simple. If he didn't solicit the votes, how did his friends know which photos to give 10's to??
07/31/2006 01:59:42 AM · #180
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by mk:

He accidentally forwarded his entry to 30 people over 40 times? I'm not quite sure how that works.


He showed his entries to friends and co-workers. I do that, too. The difference is that MY people don't vote, much less unfairly. His friends may have thought they were doing him a favor without an outright solicitation on his part.


Better double check your peeps. Now that it's happened once, you'd be up for a ban.
07/31/2006 02:00:15 AM · #181
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by macpapas:

Before everyone casts too many stones, there is a lot behind the scenes that you are not all aware of. I just got off the phone with Rikki, who I consider to be a good and personal friend. I've noted the SC and Langdon have been wording their entries very carefully and Rikki also asked me not to get involved (for my own sake), but I can't sit by while the conspiracy theorists go crazy - I will, however, try to respect my friend's wishes as well as what I believe to be the SC's wishes and not divulge the details behind the situation.

In a nutshell, Rikki made a mistake. Rikki has a passion for photography and has an almost bigger passion for this site. Rikki's mistake was to share this passion with his friends a little to soon. He did not purposely solicit the votes received nor conger up a scheme to dupe the DPC community.
And yes Bear, all the images were his.

Langdon and the SC are doing the right thing to maintain the integrity of this site and Rikki above all others knows and respects that. As such, he as asked that his profile be removed from DPC.

Rikki is greatly saddened by the events of the past few days, and in hindsight, would have done things a lot differently (with respect to sharing his passion with friends). He has contributed a lot to this site, and thinks of this community as his friends. He made a mistake and is suffering the consequences of that mistake. But without knowing the facts of the situation, I ask that you all keep the stone throwing to a minimum.


I'm happy to hear the images are all his. I never really doubted they were anyway. My point was, I hate the way the situation makes me feel, if you can understand that? The thing is, I LIKE Rikki. We corresponded a fair amount. Now I have to fit myself around this new information, you know? And it makes me feel bad, it bothers me, I am in a sense resentful that I have to feel this way.

Forgiveness is not an issue with me. It's a straightforward matter for me to forgive Rikki. But don't like how this makes me feel and it will take time to overcome that sick feeling, you know?

Robt.


I hear ya Bear - nobody is happy about the situation.
07/31/2006 02:01:21 AM · #182
Originally posted by macpapas:

<<SNIP>>
In a nutshell, Rikki made a mistake. Rikki has a passion for photography and has an almost bigger passion for this site. Rikki's mistake was to share this passion with his friends a little to soon. He did not purposely solicit the votes received nor conger up a scheme to dupe the DPC community.
<<SNIP>>


I don't know Rikki but I've been careful in this exact area with friends involved with this site. I try real hard to avoid disclosing what my entry is in a challenge to my friends and family participating in this site and if I find out what a friend or family member submitted in a challenge I don't vote in that particular challenge. Solves things for me.

The natural predisposition of folks is to vote more favorably for your friends (whether you know it or not). I suspect it would be best to let the ruling of the site be what it is for Rikki and for the rest of us to avoid making statements when we don't know the facts (or some of the facts). Instead, we should all make sure we focus on our own integrity and help ensure the entegrity of the site instead of casting stones (even for the hard asses out there ;-) ).

07/31/2006 02:01:27 AM · #183
Originally posted by macpapas:

He did not purposely solicit the votes received nor conger up a scheme to dupe the DPC community.


I believe that he either knew, or should have known that it was going on. When entries are supposed to be as anonymous like they are here, forwarding them to 30-40 people who are registered members (whether they are active in the forums or not) surely violates the spirit of anonymity.

07/31/2006 02:01:33 AM · #184
Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by macpapas:

He did not purposely solicit the votes received nor conger up a scheme to dupe the DPC community.


He accidentally forwarded his entry to 30 people over 40 times? I'm not quite sure how that works.


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07/31/2006 02:01:34 AM · #185
Originally posted by skiprow:

philip, i was simply responding to the way you responded to colette. it's one thing be there for a friend, it's another thing to defend, apologize, and try to explain indefensible actions. i have an acquaintance that was just found by his wife to be in the throws of a two+ year long affair. a drunken night out could be explained and maybe forgiven, but to continually, cognizantly repeat the same sober behavior is simply not defensible or acceptable.


I like you, Skip, and don't want to argue with you when the topic is still highly emotional. I just want to point out that I did not defend, apologize or try to explain Rikki's actions. I said his actions were wrong, plain and simple. If I had known he was doing this, I would have tried to stop him.
07/31/2006 02:02:34 AM · #186
Originally posted by mk:

Better double check your peeps. Now that it's happened once, you'd be up for a ban.


No problem there. I don't think I've EVER had 30 friends! ;-)
07/31/2006 02:03:09 AM · #187
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:


Did these "ghost" accounts enter any challenges or just vote? If they just voted then I would think that all other votes they cast were random and not based on the pictures they were scoring. The only reason they look OK was to keep from their votes being wiped. And the 20% or more votes was so that the one vote they wanted (Rikki's) to count. And if thats the case then all their votes are erroneous whether it be a high or low score and should be wiped.
Just my opinion.
Thanks
SDW


This was what I thought, but that would mean someone would have to tell them not to vote so low on other images so that their votes would be noticed or discounted.
As for sharing his passion with these people - did they vote on challenges Rikki was not in? Did they enter themselves? Did they contribute to the forums? If not how is that sharing a passion?
07/31/2006 02:03:31 AM · #188
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by mk:

Better double check your peeps. Now that it's happened once, you'd be up for a ban.


No problem there. I don't think I've EVER had 30 friends! ;-)


Me either. And even my friends tell me my work is average.
07/31/2006 02:04:56 AM · #189
Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by mk:

Better double check your peeps. Now that it's happened once, you'd be up for a ban.


No problem there. I don't think I've EVER had 30 friends! ;-)


Me either. And even my friends tell me my work is average.


Geez! My kids tell me that :)
07/31/2006 02:05:36 AM · #190
A lot of talk talk talk but no suggestions on what to do. May I suggest the following.

1. Delete all accounts that have no camera, sorry but this is a photo site, to actively participat you really need a camera.

2. Do not allow voting until the person has submitted three photos in challenges. This allows time to learn the site and see how others vote. This also elimates in-part the friend and workmate voting. If you want to be a part of dpc then take some pics and submit them. Vote only or thread discussion only is not contributing to the photography learning.

Riki is gone, let's let this one die, it is no longer serving any purpose.
07/31/2006 02:05:45 AM · #191
Originally posted by ursula:



Geez! My kids tell me that :)


Obviously they need more chores! ;)
07/31/2006 02:05:50 AM · #192
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:

I just want to point out that I did not defend, apologize or try to explain Rikki's actions. I said his actions were wrong, plain and simple. If I had known he was doing this, I would have tried to stop him.

point taken, philip, and i really wish you had been close enough to him to catch him before he fell.
07/31/2006 02:05:51 AM · #193
Originally posted by idnic:

And even my friends tell me my work is average.


and those are your friends? eep! :P
07/31/2006 02:07:17 AM · #194
Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by ursula:



Geez! My kids tell me that :)


Obviously they need more chores! ;)


Can I quote you tomorrow? Something like, OK, kids, Cindi says you now have to .....

:)
07/31/2006 02:07:52 AM · #195
Originally posted by muckpond:

and those are your friends? eep! :P


... and so I live vicariously through DPC, and so it is, and so it is... :/

lol
07/31/2006 02:07:57 AM · #196
Originally posted by scalvert:

I don't think I've EVER had 30 friends! ;-)

understandable... ;-)
07/31/2006 02:08:43 AM · #197
Originally posted by ursula:

Can I quote you tomorrow? Something like, OK, kids, Cindi says you now have to .....

:)


Yeah, then give em my address. Walking that should give you a good month of free-time! :D
07/31/2006 02:09:31 AM · #198
Originally posted by PhantomEWO:

Delete all accounts that have no camera, sorry but this is a photo site, to actively participate you really need a camera.


If my camera breaks tomorrow I can't vote? *sniff*
07/31/2006 02:10:25 AM · #199
Originally posted by skiprow:

Originally posted by scalvert:

I don't think I've EVER had 30 friends! ;-)

understandable... ;-)


Cross one more off the list...
07/31/2006 02:11:32 AM · #200
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by PhantomEWO:

Delete all accounts that have no camera, sorry but this is a photo site, to actively participate you really need a camera.


If my camera breaks tomorrow I can't vote? *sniff*


Just fake it. Or do we have PO-lice now checking for actual camera ownership? Shall we also ban people who, out of envy, lay claim to a better camera than the one they actually have? jejeje™

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