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01/17/2007 01:18:14 AM · #26
Originally posted by MrEd:

Originally posted by Megatherian:

It'll be freezing and after the sun goes down

It's been single digits without the wind in Denver. I can only imagine it's colder (if not as cold) in the mountains. Echoing the rest above me...taking shots WHILE it's snowing is very tricky. The shots below were taken duting the day. I would like to hear myself what some lighting suggestions would be. Would 1 mounted/held a bit above eye height from the right side and a softer one a bit lower from the left with diffusers work?
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How about indoors by a fire? Not sure where you're staying, but there might be lounge with a fireplace. Those would make memorable shots IMO.


Yea, my wife is from Breckenridge. Denver is at 5280 feet, Breckenridge is at 9600 feet - you could say it'll be a bit colder. High day time temps have been around 20F lately and down to -10F at night. It's only going to get colder too. The other thing to keep in mind is that the air is MUCH thinner and dryer there especially when coming from SC. That will make it seem all that much colder as well. I know the outdoor pictures seem romantic (and I certainly don't want to be a party pooper) but I would highly recommend having at least a back up plan to take the pictures indoors.
01/17/2007 01:39:20 AM · #27
Originally posted by Sunshyne:

Another thing I just thought about...

Is there a filter that you can use while taking snow pictures (daytime, of course)?


Ok here are a few things for you, snow is bright..universal duh
So filter for snow, polarizer,,,and a nd filter
will help with snow glare and balance image a bit better.

With the night shot will work best with no flash and some good ambient lighting...moon is the best.
have Hubby pose and get lighting right on him and set focus on him then focus to MF so it dosent shift, then put yourself in.

again use the natural light as much as you can.
Also Settings with snow/ice covered rocks or wooded ares look awesome.

Finally a weird paint with light thing, take a flash light and paint an area with light, then walk int frame and pose, have a flash on 2nd curtian sync but filtered(softened). Will have bright areas that were painted maybe some blur of you walking in, and the second curtian flash to stop your motion and freeze you in place.
01/17/2007 11:22:43 AM · #28
Thanks! Hopefully with these suggestions, something is bound to work out - right? :)

Originally posted by nemesise1977:

Originally posted by Sunshyne:

Another thing I just thought about...

Is there a filter that you can use while taking snow pictures (daytime, of course)?


Ok here are a few things for you, snow is bright..universal duh
So filter for snow, polarizer,,,and a nd filter
will help with snow glare and balance image a bit better.

With the night shot will work best with no flash and some good ambient lighting...moon is the best.
have Hubby pose and get lighting right on him and set focus on him then focus to MF so it dosent shift, then put yourself in.

again use the natural light as much as you can.
Also Settings with snow/ice covered rocks or wooded ares look awesome.

Finally a weird paint with light thing, take a flash light and paint an area with light, then walk int frame and pose, have a flash on 2nd curtian sync but filtered(softened). Will have bright areas that were painted maybe some blur of you walking in, and the second curtian flash to stop your motion and freeze you in place.


The paint with light thing idea sounds cool, but I'm not sure that I understand it...
01/17/2007 12:20:11 PM · #29
Sunshyne
Here are a couple of recent engagement shots from downtown Denver. The first is around the same time your talking about, just at sunset. The second is later in the evening. Both were taken in RAW and ISO of 400, no flash. In hindsight I would have pushed the ISO higher. A white dress would have been nice as their dark clothing made it darn hard to focus the camera.
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We also use a hunting large light with several layers of paper to defuse the light for night photography.

When's the wedding?
01/17/2007 01:29:49 PM · #30
Originally posted by debitipton:

When's the wedding?

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01/17/2007 02:18:55 PM · #31
Originally posted by Sunshyne:

Thanks! Hopefully with these suggestions, something is bound to work out - right? :)

Originally posted by nemesise1977:

Originally posted by Sunshyne:

Another thing I just thought about...

Is there a filter that you can use while taking snow pictures (daytime, of course)?


Ok here are a few things for you, snow is bright..universal duh
So filter for snow, polarizer,,,and a nd filter
will help with snow glare and balance image a bit better.

With the night shot will work best with no flash and some good ambient lighting...moon is the best.
have Hubby pose and get lighting right on him and set focus on him then focus to MF so it dosent shift, then put yourself in.

again use the natural light as much as you can.
Also Settings with snow/ice covered rocks or wooded ares look awesome.

Finally a weird paint with light thing, take a flash light and paint an area with light, then walk int frame and pose, have a flash on 2nd curtian sync but filtered(softened). Will have bright areas that were painted maybe some blur of you walking in, and the second curtian flash to stop your motion and freeze you in place.


The paint with light thing idea sounds cool, but I'm not sure that I understand it...


Paint with light idea is easy, frame your shot, and instead of using a flash just wave a flashlight arround what you want to be light brightly. so use a long exposure, I will see if I have time to make one tonight to be able to show you what I mean
01/17/2007 03:12:23 PM · #32
Unless you are planning on shooting IN the snow or surrounded by snow, just shoot like you would at night. If it snowing and you use a flash, you will get the floaters. Are you shooting around town where there is some light, or middle of nowhere?
Myself, I would probably push to 800 or 1200 on ISO, use the 50mm 1.8 (great for portraits) and try Aperture mode near 1.8, to "stop the action." If it is real dark then I would use the flash with the diffuser (Luminex Ultrasoft) on it. You can always practice at home there also.
If IN the snow and a flash, using negative exposure compensation from -3 to -1, will help.
You could always get out some nice white sheets, lay them on the ground (or in the house) put on white clothes and place white pillows around, etc. and practice that way too with the lighting you perceive or expect. You could figure some settings that way.
01/18/2007 12:59:07 AM · #33
ok here is a quick sample of what I was talking about (was lasy and didn't have time to do it 100% right this is a quick 5 min here ya go shot)
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setup was easy, camera on trip[od in a dark area, set to f16 at iso 400 used a remote and set shutter to bulb. used flash light to help set focus then switched to manual so it was locked in place.
turned on shutter then walked carrying flashlight to draw the line in the snow, then shined on the bush with the ice cicles in it (mayby a bit to much) finally shined light on myself and my face. of course I moved when illuminating myself but was squatting on hard ice so my balance was not so good.
Post processing noise and hot pixel suppresion, exposure down about .95, increased shadow contrast. curves, save to jpg

With a little work using a metal can or such you can make your flash kinada like a spot light do some test flashes to see where it is aimed, paint a part of the area with the flash light, get into your spotlight flash, before second shutter and walla.
For more fun take colored plastic or gels that your flashlight can shine throught to make diffrent color light paintings...for examplecut out a heart shape in a peice of paper then fill the whole with say a red filter or red trans lucent plastic. shine the flashlight through its new red heart filter to make a heart some where, paint a tree covered in ice with white light then stand in place and let flash hit you poised in the spot flash (this will require some pratice and a few trial runs just to get one shot. Or you can do lazy easy ones like I did

hope this clears things up again (sorry is such a lame lasy shot, but was hurring to do this for you, may see if I can do better later if you want me to.
01/18/2007 10:00:02 AM · #34
Thanks so much for all of your suggestions and tips!!!

Well, I was able to book the sleigh for 4:30pm, so hopefully we'll at least have a little bit of light (twilight) for the shots. We should be "on location" (where we are performing the ceremony) before 5pm, which will be slightly before offical sunset on Feb 12th.

If anyone has anything else at all that they can add, please don't hesitate to do so and/or email me at sweetmissbehaving@comcast.net

If the photos turn out even in the least bit, I'll post some for all to see (as long as I don't totally goof them up and am embarassed to show them)!

Thanks again for all of the help!!!

Marjorie


01/18/2007 10:03:11 AM · #35
Originally posted by debitipton:

Sunshyne
Here are a couple of recent engagement shots from downtown Denver. The first is around the same time your talking about, just at sunset. The second is later in the evening. Both were taken in RAW and ISO of 400, no flash. In hindsight I would have pushed the ISO higher. A white dress would have been nice as their dark clothing made it darn hard to focus the camera.
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We also use a hunting large light with several layers of paper to defuse the light for night photography.

When's the wedding?


Wow!!! Those are AWESOME!!!! The wedding is Monday, February 12th around 4:45 or 5pm or so. We are leaving on the sleigh ride around 4:30 that afternoon and should be gone about 45min or so.

Thanks again for sharing your work - it's great!!!!
01/18/2007 10:06:16 AM · #36
Originally posted by MrEd:

Originally posted by debitipton:

When's the wedding?

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Sure! Why don't the two of you "crash" it and come take pictures for me????

:)

Unfortunately, I don't think that will be possible since we're having it on a "school day" at 4:30ish (Feb 12th)...not to mention, the sleigh only holds 4 people!
01/18/2007 10:09:05 AM · #37
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:

Unless you are planning on shooting IN the snow or surrounded by snow, just shoot like you would at night. If it snowing and you use a flash, you will get the floaters. Are you shooting around town where there is some light, or middle of nowhere?
Myself, I would probably push to 800 or 1200 on ISO, use the 50mm 1.8 (great for portraits) and try Aperture mode near 1.8, to "stop the action." If it is real dark then I would use the flash with the diffuser (Luminex Ultrasoft) on it. You can always practice at home there also.
If IN the snow and a flash, using negative exposure compensation from -3 to -1, will help.
You could always get out some nice white sheets, lay them on the ground (or in the house) put on white clothes and place white pillows around, etc. and practice that way too with the lighting you perceive or expect. You could figure some settings that way.


Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I love the idea of "practicing" prior to shooting. Thanks again for all of the pointers and specifics/details.
01/18/2007 12:15:33 PM · #38
here's a fun idea. have the sleigh driver take you to the top of one of the night lit ski slopes. this will provide some bright ambient light. take the sleigh down the slope and fire shots away as you speed down the the slope through the snow. some shots of the skiiers might be kind of cool too, as they'll be wondering what the hell you are doing sliding down the slope in santas sleigh ;}

<joking of course>

anyway congrats and good luck !


01/18/2007 02:09:19 PM · #39
Originally posted by Sunshyne:

Originally posted by MrEd:

Originally posted by debitipton:

When's the wedding?

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Sure! Why don't the two of you "crash" it and come take pictures for me????

:)

Unfortunately, I don't think that will be possible since we're having it on a "school day" at 4:30ish (Feb 12th)...not to mention, the sleigh only holds 4 people!

School day? Whats that? Been so long since I heard that term...

Message edited by author 2007-01-18 14:09:41.
01/18/2007 03:06:33 PM · #40
[School day? Whats that? Been so long since I heard that term... [/quote]

Hahaha! That's what I refer to as Monday - Friday and "school nights" are Sun nite - Thurs nite. It's been a LONG time since I was in school, too, but that terminology makes me think I'm young again! :)
01/26/2007 10:00:59 PM · #41
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