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01/28/2007 11:01:09 AM · #1
I'm being hammered!
01/28/2007 11:03:18 AM · #2
Do YOU like the grain? That's the important question.
01/28/2007 11:04:29 AM · #3
Sometimes grain works, sometimes it doesn't. You really have to use it carefully though, since many voters may think it distracting.

' . substr('https://images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/hidden.png', strrpos('https://images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/hidden.png', '/') + 1) . ' I think this is the only time I've used grain sucesfully.
01/28/2007 11:06:00 AM · #4
Funny, I got hammered once. I think it even involved grain. . . .but, there was alcohol in there too. :)

Seriously, adding grain to an image in PP seems to either enhance a photo or destroy it. I haven't seen many examples of anything in between. I wouldn't give up on a process just because it didn't work in this instance.

I think the thing to focus on is. . . How do you feel about your image?
01/28/2007 11:06:12 AM · #5
I don't think half the population noticed the grain at all in ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', '/') + 1) . ' idnic's picture. :-)

Message edited by author 2007-01-28 11:06:48.
01/28/2007 11:08:31 AM · #6
Originally posted by Melethia:

I don't think half the population noticed the grain at all in ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', '/') + 1) . ' idnic's picture. :-)


My thoughts exactly. What grain?
01/28/2007 11:11:11 AM · #7
Originally posted by dwterry:

Originally posted by Melethia:

I don't think half the population noticed the grain at all in ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', '/') + 1) . ' idnic's picture. :-)


My thoughts exactly. What grain?


LMAO inserting the image was a clever way to draw attention away from my misspelling too! :P
01/28/2007 11:12:46 AM · #8
Interesting that you would use color grain instead of monochrome.
01/28/2007 11:13:16 AM · #9
Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by dwterry:

Originally posted by Melethia:

I don't think half the population noticed the grain at all in ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', '/') + 1) . ' idnic's picture. :-)


My thoughts exactly. What grain?


LMAO inserting the image was a clever way to draw attention away from my misspelling too! :P


There were words in your last post? :)
01/28/2007 11:19:00 AM · #10
I added grain to this photo:

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comments ping-ponged between I like the grain to I don't like the grain... pretty funny.
01/28/2007 11:22:32 AM · #11
Originally posted by idnic:

I think this is the only time I've used grain sucesfully.


there's grain in that shot? i ... i didn't notice! :)
01/28/2007 11:25:25 AM · #12
Originally posted by idnic:

Sometimes grain works, sometimes it doesn't. You really have to use it carefully though, since many voters may think it distracting.

' . substr('https://images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/hidden.png', strrpos('https://images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/hidden.png', '/') + 1) . ' I think this is the only time I've used grain sucesfully.


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' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Bear_Music's face seems to do the trick, too. Hrm.
01/28/2007 12:01:20 PM · #13


LMAO inserting the image was a clever way to draw attention away from my misspelling too! :P [/quote]

The trick was sucesfull. Never even noticed HA. : )
01/28/2007 12:37:11 PM · #14
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I think it worked very well here but as you can see it still only scored a 6.2 which is in my opinion too low. some voters only like very sharp images and if the grain is not very evident some people think it is noise.
01/28/2007 12:49:05 PM · #15
Originally posted by Elvis_L:

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I think it worked very well here but as you can see it still only scored a 6.2 which is in my opinion too low. some voters only like very sharp images and if the grain is not very evident some people think it is noise.


Love that one!
01/28/2007 12:53:52 PM · #16
I tried it recently too - and while *I* love the photo, it did not come close to pleasing the DPC audience.

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01/28/2007 01:47:01 PM · #17
Well its not grain and its not on purpose but heres some dark/black image noise that someone thought worked well.
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01/28/2007 01:55:44 PM · #18
I agree that some voters do not seem to like a picture unless it is razor sharp. I would expect a more definate grain- that looks obviously deliberate- instead of a more sublte grain that may be taken for either out of focus or covering for poor sharpness- would be more accepted. Unfortunately sometimes the editing can add grain. I know you are talking about the conscious decision to use grain for mood in a photo, but sometimes I edit a pic and like it but when I save it and post it into a challenge, it looks granier that I expected or intended to. I have lost points this way. Maybe that is just my weak processing skills.
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01/28/2007 02:03:48 PM · #19
Come to think of it, I've never added grain. It comes kinda naturally to me. :-)

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01/28/2007 02:14:21 PM · #20
Artifical grain (added noise) will rarely look as good as the real thing. Real film grain has a look and feel that is very hard to duplicate digitally.

Mike


01/28/2007 02:22:45 PM · #21
Originally posted by MikeJ:

Artifical grain (added noise) will rarely look as good as the real thing. Real film grain has a look and feel that is very hard to duplicate digitally.

Mike


True to a point but just using basic filters to add grain is dumbest. There is a photoshop plugin that add snoise that is based of certain types of film.. You basicly select a filter for what ind of film you want the grain look of.
01/28/2007 10:15:44 PM · #22
I took a picture of some geese in heavy fog and submitted to a challenge. I got comments that the image was too grainy. Funny thing is, there was no grain added, nor was there any noise in the image, the person saw the "texture" of the fog and made an assumption.
I think many times people don't stay with an image long enough to evaluate it. In the short time the images are viewed (by some), they are judged by the first thing that hits them in the face, not the overall impact of the image.
If you like it, that's all that matters. If the comments make you evaluate your technique then they've done their job. Doesn't mean you have to change anything.

edit spelling

Message edited by author 2007-01-28 22:16:38.
01/28/2007 10:16:40 PM · #23
The first time I added grain I won Blue, but then got DQd for it.
Ahh those were the days of true "basic" editing rules :P
01/28/2007 10:30:11 PM · #24
lots of grain added... but luckily it worked!

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01/28/2007 10:37:33 PM · #25
I also think that (sometimes) grain can add to the image.

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