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01/29/2007 11:44:50 AM · #1
For the last year or so, I've been strongly considering abandoning Windows XP and moving to Ubuntu Linux. Right now, the only thing holding me back is Adobe Photoshop. I'm well aware of The GIMP, but that application does not quite meet my meeds. I need to be able to run true Photoshop.

I found some documentation online about installing Photoshop CS2 under WINE, and I assume that if CS2 will run, so will CS. I was wondering, though, if anyone here has practical experience installing Photoshop under Linux and can make a recommendation for or against.

Thanks,
~Terry
01/29/2007 12:01:01 PM · #2
Terry, I think ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Megatherian may be able to help you.
01/29/2007 12:04:49 PM · #3
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Terry, I think ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Megatherian may be able to help you.


Looks like he's online now. Hopefully he'll see this thread and reply!

If not, I'll send a PM.

Thanks!
~Terry
01/29/2007 12:44:18 PM · #4
Well Photoshop is a slippery slope on Linux.

Photoshop 7 works fine. CS2 does not. I did get cs2 installed but it didn't work right, it was incredibly slow to start and I never could get the fonts to look right or all the menus to function correctly.

If you haven't seen it already check out the user feedback on installing Photoshop under Wine. The key (as is the case for MANY apps installed under Wine) is to have a Windows install with the applications installed on it so you can export/import the registry settings from it. The thing that got me though was that if I had a copy installed under windows I may as well just use it!

I did run Linux for quite a while with a dual boot to Windows. Ultimately I found myself more and more in the Windows boot though and finally decided Linux just wasn't doing enough of what I needed/wanted it to do.

Now with that said, when I was doing it Virtualization was just stating to kick off. With that you can run full operating systems within Linux.

VMWare has been around a while and works well but is expensive. Xen is the latest and greatest but I don't know what state it's currently in. In any case you normally take a hit in performance with virtualization.

Other alternative photo editors for Linux would be Lightzone and Bibble. I love Bibble and still use it a lot even though I'm back on Windows.
01/29/2007 01:55:33 PM · #5
*bump*

Does anyone else have experience with this?

~Terry
01/29/2007 02:02:23 PM · #6
I dont have experience with photoshop on Linux, but of course it has to be mention try out GIMP.
01/29/2007 02:05:24 PM · #7
Terry, I don't know about CS, but I did get PS7 to run well under Wine with Ubuntu Linux. Setup went smoothly, but I did have to Google some to get it to run correctly. I'm not running Linux anymore, but just thought I'd throw that out there.
01/29/2007 02:30:03 PM · #8
Originally posted by rainmotorsports:

I dont have experience with photoshop on Linux, but of course it has to be mention try out GIMP.


True enough, but I've tried The GIMP and it doesn't fully meet my needs. In order to switch to Linux, I need to be reasonably certain I can get Photoshop to work.

~Terry
01/29/2007 02:38:24 PM · #9
CJ, you dont fancy giving Vista a go? I know its a chance, especially at the price it will be going for, but I have heard nothing but good things about it.

BTW, whats the reason for wanting to drop Windows?

mark

PS, you've got new mail.
01/29/2007 02:38:37 PM · #10
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

...I need to be reasonably certain I can get Photoshop to work...


Honestly, I wouldn't bother switching then. Old Versions of Photoshop are spotty at best and the new versions rely too heavily on Microsoft code to make them effective in Wine.

You can try it but unfortunately I think you'll end up disappointed.
01/29/2007 04:06:07 PM · #11
Originally posted by marksimms:

CJ, you dont fancy giving Vista a go? I know its a chance, especially at the price it will be going for, but I have heard nothing but good things about it.

BTW, whats the reason for wanting to drop Windows?

mark

PS, you've got new mail.


Primarily, I'm not happy with the performance of my computer. I won't be going to Vista anytime soon, since I don't need it and don't desire the performance hit. I'll either stick with XP or move to Ubuntu.

I like the lower overhead of Linux, and the feedback I've heard on Ubuntu is overwhelmingly positive.

~Terry
01/29/2007 04:13:43 PM · #12
Not trying to resurrect the old Mac/PC debate, but have you considered a Mac?

UNIX under the hood, Full CS2 support (Power PCs, anyway, soon for Intel)

And you get a terminal window when ever you need one.

Just a thought.
01/29/2007 04:33:22 PM · #13
I have nothing at all against Mac, but I'm not currently in the market for hardware. When I am, all options will be on the table. I expect that is at least 2 years away, though.

~Terry

Message edited by author 2007-01-29 16:36:12.
01/29/2007 04:33:45 PM · #14
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by marksimms:

CJ, you dont fancy giving Vista a go? I know its a chance, especially at the price it will be going for, but I have heard nothing but good things about it.

BTW, whats the reason for wanting to drop Windows?

mark

PS, you've got new mail.


Primarily, I'm not happy with the performance of my computer. I won't be going to Vista anytime soon, since I don't need it and don't desire the performance hit. I'll either stick with XP or move to Ubuntu.

I like the lower overhead of Linux, and the feedback I've heard on Ubuntu is overwhelmingly positive.

~Terry


If you want Photoshop to run faster I can't see Linux helping you. Emulating windows will slow your PC down - I haven't any experience myself but generally emulations run SLOWER than the original for the simple reason that your PC is running Linux & Windows & Photoshop = more work than just Windows and Photoshop.

You'd do better to look into more memory (PS is very memory hungry) and the new Intel dual core duo processors are fast yet not pricey. You can even overclock the 6300 to almost to almost double its rated speed without doing anything fancy...

Upgrading to a new machine with lots of memory would help - perhaps keep it a dedicated work machine too and keep the old one for dpc, chat, email etc... all those fun things slow the PC down.

Macs have a good reputation too but always cost a bit more - both initial purchase and upgrades/software as there isn't as big a choice so there is less competition.

Edit - I see you aren't after hardware... but don't think you'll get any improvement without it - even a memory upgrade is likely to help

Message edited by author 2007-01-29 16:36:41.
01/29/2007 04:34:22 PM · #15
Originally posted by scarbrd:

Not trying to resurrect the old Mac/PC debate, but have you considered a Mac?

UNIX under the hood, Full CS2 support (Power PCs, anyway, soon for Intel)

And you get a terminal window when ever you need one.

Just a thought.


I'm a PC user, but I agree with ya here. Mac is definitely more suited for Terry's needs than Linux is currently.

Ooops, I posted before I saw Terry's response.

Message edited by author 2007-01-29 16:35:04.
01/29/2007 06:50:00 PM · #16
I had been using Linux exclusively for over 7 years until I got a DSLR. I quickly discovered that Gimp was not very usable for serious photo editing, and, at first, I ran Photoshop CS2 for Windows in Vmware in a Linux host. This was unbearably slow, although I realize that, maybe, throwing more RAM at the problem could, perhaps, help it. My hardware was a 3GHz P4 with HT and 2GB of RAM. I could not get CS2 working under Wine, but I didn't try *too* hard.

Then I started dual-booting between Windows and Linux, but now, sadly, I almost never boot into Linux at home any more, since there is almost not a single day when I don't work on some photographs. It's been almost a year that way, and I still haven't got used to all the little UI inconveniences of Windows. The fact that I use and manage over 200 Linux machines at work doesn't help. ;^) My wife, whom I, essentially, converted from a Windows user into a Linux one, never misses a chance to laugh at me about that.

Message edited by author 2007-01-29 18:50:47.
01/30/2007 07:18:27 PM · #17
Originally posted by Megatherian:

VMWare has been around a while and works well but is expensive.

Use the FREE VMWare Converter to convert your current Windows installation to a VMWare image, then use the FREE VMPlayer to use it under Ubuntu (VMPlayer can be installed through Synaptic).
I've been happily using VMPlayer to run CS2 since my old 2Ghz Athlon (1GB memory) with no speed issues. My new dually cored setup flies.
01/31/2007 02:31:02 AM · #18
Thanks for all the posts on this, it's been helpful. I've been thinking about a similar move (although in my case it's from Windows 2000 not XP), but I have a couple of other Windows-only apps that I need to consider as well.

What about Rawshooter Essentials? Was there a Linux version of this, or has anyone had success running the Windows version using Wine, VMPlayer or some other means? For those of you who have been doing it for a while, which strategies are the easiest (or most reliable, which could be a different thing) for trying to run Windows apps? I was thinking of trying Kubuntu or Mandriva.

Thanks

Tim
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