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02/08/2007 11:22:04 AM · #1
What is the stuff called?

Is there a nick-name for it, a real name?

What do the pros use?

What do you guys use?

Where do you buy it?

Are there reasonable substitutes, like fishing line?

:-)
02/08/2007 11:23:03 AM · #2
Monofilament fishing line. ;-)
02/08/2007 11:23:52 AM · #3
Most use fishing line, like for deep sea rods. you can get like 100 lb test line.

Rich
02/08/2007 11:23:58 AM · #4
Originally posted by scalvert:

Monofilament fishing line. ;-)

Ooh, from the master of illusion himself! Thanks, Shannon.
:-)
02/08/2007 11:36:12 AM · #5
Invisible thread is available at any store that sells sewing notions.
02/08/2007 11:36:52 AM · #6
Originally posted by scalvert:

Monofilament fishing line. ;-)


that is what we use too. depending on your shot msot of the time you don't even have to clone it out.
02/09/2007 03:55:03 AM · #7
Actually, there are several invisable threads for magicians... but that is not what a photographer would use. The ideas above are better. The Invisible thread is very, very fragile. Here is a few fun links if you have any interest in magic:

//www.mymagic.com/peki.htm
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_thread
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_thread

(I used to be pro-magician)
02/09/2007 04:31:40 AM · #8
we use just the usual sewing thread in the color of the background;
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02/09/2007 04:54:21 AM · #9
Along the same lines..(no pun intended)Can you clone out visible fishing wire under the advanced rules?
It says powerlines is okay. What do you think?
02/09/2007 04:57:46 AM · #10
Originally posted by bood:

Along the same lines..(no pun intended)Can you clone out visible fishing wire under the advanced rules?
It says powerlines is okay. What do you think?

Just connect it to a battery before shooting and it becomes legal. ;)
02/09/2007 07:17:49 AM · #11
ROFL @ aKiwi!
02/09/2007 07:46:26 AM · #12
Originally posted by bood:

Can you clone out visible fishing wire under the advanced rules?


Sure. Even when it IS visible, it's generally no more prominent than a scratch or hair.
02/09/2007 09:02:57 AM · #13
I know the question here was regarding Advanced editing... but I wanted to add that cloning the line out in Basic would be illegal, even though it is a very minimal edit. Remember that you can only clone out minor dust or hot pixels in Basic, so it would still be illegal to hide fishing line.

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by bood:

Can you clone out visible fishing wire under the advanced rules?


Sure. Even when it IS visible, it's generally no more prominent than a scratch or hair.
02/09/2007 09:05:38 AM · #14
Originally posted by alanfreed:

even though it is a very minimal edit. Remember that you can only clone out minor dust or hot pixels in Basic.....


What if I have a giant dust boogie on my sensor (which I do have), would cloning that away be considered "removing minor dust"? (its on the edge of the sensor, but its HUGE).


02/09/2007 09:10:27 AM · #15
Which can only lead us to the obvious question... what if there was a Dust Boogyman...?

If it's huge, then I would say it's no longer "minor dust," then, and would end up being illegal to clone it out. The relaxation in the rule was really meant to allow people to get rid of small specs that show up from time to time, but if it's "huge," then it's really probably time to get the ole sensor cleaned :)

Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by alanfreed:

even though it is a very minimal edit. Remember that you can only clone out minor dust or hot pixels in Basic.....


What if I have a giant dust boogie on my sensor (which I do have), would cloning that away be considered "removing minor dust"? (its on the edge of the sensor, but its HUGE).
02/09/2007 09:17:20 AM · #16
Bah! Another thing to clean, house, dogs, kids, giant dust boogie -- the fun never ends! :D
02/09/2007 09:39:48 AM · #17
What if the shot was carefully framed so that the dust speck covered the fishing line. Would you have to paint the fishing line back in after cloning out the dust speck? Who knows :P
02/09/2007 10:24:26 AM · #18
Just like invisible tape, I don't believe it exists either.
Or no one has actually seen it, yet. :-)
02/09/2007 10:25:19 AM · #19
Ha! Sensor cleaned, giant boogie now somewhere deep inside my camera! (It fell off the sensor when I used the blower, but didn't fall OUT of the camera)
02/09/2007 10:27:06 AM · #20
Another way to do this is to use modeling wire and mount whatever it is from the opposite side to the camera. The wire is usually strong enough to bend and stay in whatever shape you want and there's nothing to clone out if you do it carefully.
02/09/2007 10:47:27 AM · #21
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I used a bamboo skewer poked into the duckie's bum and into the blue backdrop (foam board) to suspend the ducky. Then hit him from below with a water hose and that's that. Because the skewer is behind ducky, there was nothing to clone.
02/09/2007 10:52:45 AM · #22
I have to say that I'm always much more impressed when people come up with clever methods like this one, as opposed to cloning out their "magic."

Originally posted by idnic:

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I used a bamboo skewer poked into the duckie's bum and into the blue backdrop (foam board) to suspend the ducky. Then hit him from below with a water hose and that's that. Because the skewer is behind ducky, there was nothing to clone.
02/09/2007 10:56:17 AM · #23
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02/09/2007 10:59:16 AM · #24
Originally posted by aKiwi:

Originally posted by bood:

Along the same lines..(no pun intended)Can you clone out visible fishing wire under the advanced rules?
It says powerlines is okay. What do you think?

Just connect it to a battery before shooting and it becomes legal. ;)


Does the battery need to show in the original before the crop to make it legal... lol

spellin porly

Message edited by author 2007-02-09 11:00:00.
02/09/2007 11:03:18 AM · #25
Originally posted by idnic:

Bah! Another thing to clean, house, dogs, kids, giant dust boogie -- the fun never ends! :D


Hey, at least you have the equipment:
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