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02/23/2007 02:59:52 PM · #301
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:

Originally posted by surfinbird:

My opinion - there are very few photographs, entered in this challenge, that grasp what 'Street Photography' really is. To me a 'Street' photograph is like a sentence i.e. a unit (grammatical / visual) that is syntactically independent and has a subject that is expressed.


I think we may have a similar view of what street photography is, but on further reflection I think one of the things we are seeing in this challenge is how difficult it is to find a picture that captures an emotion and tells a story when you have only a week to do it. Great street photography can be very serendipitous, where the confluence of good light, a great subject, and a camera at the ready all come together at just the precise moment. Many of those elements are outside of the photographers control to a far greater extent than in other types of photography. My guess is that a lot of the entrants here truly do grasp what street photography is, but ended up submitting an entry that was not quite what they wanted, even it was the best they came up with in a week. I know that I'm not totally please with my entry; photographically its an interesting image, but does not come close to telling the kind of story that I would have liked.


Excellant excellant point..So much of street photography is about capturing a moment, not manufacturing one...and I know , myself, and alot of other people had to deal with Extreme cold and wind that week..certainly limited alot of golden opportunities...not all, but I think warmer weather may have helped alot of us get better shots :)
02/23/2007 03:19:37 PM · #302
Started the first day at 6.6 (along with a bunch of others that started high). Then was around 5.9, and slowly moved down to:

Votes: 188
Views: 305
Avg Vote: 5.7500
Comments: 9
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0

Lost another .05 as today wore on, but honestly the voting still seems a bit low for my shot in comparison to some others.

I'm generally happy with the comments, but it'll be interesting if some of the commenters look at the other comments I've received once the challenge ends. Why? Well, because one comment says, "too bad that X", and another says, "X works really well here." Then another, "really bad that X" and another, "I really like X, it makes the shot" (the comments are changed, they're just intended to reflect the tone of the "conversation"). People who said they hated X would have to look and say, "I guess it wasn't just the photographer who liked this, other people did, too."

Anyway, good luck in the final stretch, all.

Rob
02/23/2007 04:01:41 PM · #303
Votes: 189
Views: 284
Avg Vote: 5.2963
Comments: 7
Favorites: 1
Hey I gotta fav! very nice, score is low but I expected that.
02/23/2007 04:06:29 PM · #304
Someone removed a comment. :(
That wasn't very nice.
02/23/2007 04:15:08 PM · #305
Originally posted by idnic:

Someone removed a comment. :(
That wasn't very nice.


and it wasn't a spam comment, like the URL ones yesterday? HOW rude of them!!! :(
02/23/2007 04:19:35 PM · #306
Originally posted by magenmarie:

Originally posted by idnic:

Someone removed a comment. :(
That wasn't very nice.


and it wasn't a spam comment, like the URL ones yesterday? HOW rude of them!!! :(


No, it was a nice comment. I guess they looked again and decided they didn't love my pic afterall. :P
02/23/2007 04:20:24 PM · #307
Originally posted by rheverly:


I'm generally happy with the comments, but it'll be interesting if some of the commenters look at the other comments I've received once the challenge ends. Why? Well, because one comment says, "too bad that X", and another says, "X works really well here." Then another, "really bad that X" and another, "I really like X, it makes the shot" (the comments are changed, they're just intended to reflect the tone of the "conversation"). People who said they hated X would have to look and say, "I guess it wasn't just the photographer who liked this, other people did, too."

Anyway, good luck in the final stretch, all.

Rob


Would that train of thought not work the other way, if more than one person picked an area of your shot they felt did not work would that not lead you to try again and see for yourself what the image would be like with out "X"?


02/23/2007 04:28:44 PM · #308
Votes: 195
Views: 343
Avg Vote: 6.3026
Comments: 15
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/23/07 04:26 pm

Back over 6.30! Yippie!
02/23/2007 05:49:20 PM · #309
Votes: 186
Views: 309
Avg Vote: 5.8280
Comments: 5
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0

mine is holding steady, it hasn't move more than .0200 of a point in two days
02/23/2007 05:50:39 PM · #310
Votes: 189
Views: 377
Avg Vote: 5.8730
Comments: 7

Mine's been holding pretty steady also.
02/23/2007 07:58:29 PM · #311
Originally posted by Brookied:

I think Street photography can take many forms, The link you posted goes one way where as other street photography links and articles can lead in other directions.
At the end of the day if you post a photo on a site like this and get a comment you dont like and are only looking for good comments then its the wrong site for you.

I got hammerd in some of my shots last year. Stuff i thought voters should have took more time over but then at the end of the day people are only trying to help with there own comments.

The only comment that should be disallowed would be a down right nasty comment.


People are people and I have no issue with anyone not liking my pictures. My comment was more along the line of people making comments about my image not being street photography. Like they are experts and somehow their version of reality is the correct one and everyone else is wrong.

Quite frankly I take criticism very well and in fact I appreciate it. It helps me do better next time. The problem is I am getting very unhelpful comments like these two I received: "No" and "Blah". I also can't figure out how the voting can drop so fast sometimes. It is like people are going through and giving everyone a "1" or something. I realize the site says that it monitors certain voting patterns, so that can't be it.

What it comes down to is that you all can go ahead and vote however you want to, and make dumb comments if you want to, but don't expect people to not get upset about it. It is human nature after all.


02/23/2007 08:14:37 PM · #312
Votes: 196
Views: 313
Avg Vote: 6.0510
Comments: 11
Favorites: 0

Haven't had a shot in the '6s' in a while
*Doin' the Happy Dance*
(Thanks for all the great comments, too!)
Lots of views...wishing I could turn them all into '10s!'
02/23/2007 11:40:47 PM · #313

update button brings no joy
02/23/2007 11:45:43 PM · #314
200 Vote check-in

Votes: 200
Views: 391
Avg Vote: 6.5900
Comments: 14
02/23/2007 11:56:46 PM · #315
Votes: 217
Views: 449
Avg Vote: 6.6359
Comments: 32
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
02/24/2007 12:15:36 AM · #316
Votes: 193
Views: 318
Avg Vote: 5.8238
Comments: 5
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0

how the heck do you get 32 comments?
02/24/2007 03:19:01 AM · #317
@Idnic, hipychik

Good scores there, looking in top 15 or top 10 placings ;-)
02/24/2007 04:20:37 AM · #318
Too much useless discussion going on here, think it's time for another kick in your butts...(hehe)

Votes: 208
Views: 375
Avg Vote: 7.XXXX
Comments: 28
Favorites: 2
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/24/07 04:14 am
02/24/2007 04:23:39 AM · #319
Street Photography
Votes: 211
Views: 397
Avg Vote: 7.xxxx
Comments: 32
Favorites: 6

down to the wire ;-)
regardless of the finish its a PB for me in many ways

Message edited by author 2007-02-24 04:24:09.
02/24/2007 04:26:49 AM · #320
Wow, 6 favs! There goes my blue...good luck, Darren!
02/24/2007 04:31:42 AM · #321
i still think there is a dark horse that will get Blue,
02/24/2007 04:52:40 AM · #322
Hi all,

Even though I've recieved lots of positive comments on my "Street Photography" presentation, the Avg votes still remains quite low...

View 320
Votes 206
Avg votes 5.7330
Comments 17
Fav 0
Wish list 0
Updated 02-24-07 04:10 am
02/24/2007 04:57:50 AM · #323
Street Photography
Votes: 206
Views: 361
Avg Vote: 6.3155
Comments: 15
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/24/07 04:56 am

Lookin like a PB for me!
02/24/2007 05:56:41 AM · #324
Originally posted by Brookied:

Would that train of thought not work the other way, if more than one person picked an area of your shot they felt did not work would that not lead you to try again and see for yourself what the image would be like with out "X"?


Of course; the difficulty is when that exact aspect is the reason someone gave the shot a 10 (according to their comment); what should a photographer do in that event in terms of altering their future behaviour? I don't know the answer for that, but duelling comments don't really help, in my opinion.

In any event, I always look at what people like and don't like, and hope to learn from it. When it "bothers" me is when the negative comments are stated in terms of absolutes, and at times paternalistically. "Aw, not only did you shoot this poorly, you didn't even notice. I better point out to you how awful this particular aspect is." Well, fine, okay, but guess what? I did notice, I liked it, I still like it, and so do some other people.

I especially like suggestions ("you might try upping the contrast" or "multilayers would have really helped the washed out sky") or a commenter telling me what they might have done ("I would have cropped it a bit tighter"); these to me are useful and appreciated, even if followed by a criticism ("but the way it is here just doesn't work for me") or even if I subjectively disagree. Simply stating I got something "wrong" doesn't help when the "wrong" thing is itself highly subjective (as witnessed especially by other commenters).

Does that make sense?

Rob
02/24/2007 06:06:09 AM · #325
Rob, that makes sence
i Have commented on Street far more than any other challenge, i only hope that i have not just said "This is wrong" and left it at that. I tried to say what i may have done with that shot. Thats not to say i am right however, its just one very small persons opinion

I think there is a point also where no matter what you do someone will always either love it or hate it. A while back someone PM'd me to say my shots were so bad i should give up and sell my camera? At the end of the day if you like the shot then that should be good enough.

I got to caught up in what people on this site thought an tried to make my shots fit. That made me shot stuff i was unhappy with which made for even worse shots. Now if I am happy then stuff the comment or the score.

Still it is nice to see good comments and a decent score every once in a while
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