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03/17/2007 11:13:32 PM · #76
Sorry, Jeb. I promised no more wisecracks, and I would delete it except that Jeff quoted it already.

so... um... it's Jeff's fault...

(p.s. meant in good fun...)

Message edited by author 2007-03-17 23:14:19.
03/18/2007 02:00:13 AM · #77
Originally posted by posthumous:

Sorry, Jeb. I promised no more wisecracks, and I would delete it except that Jeff quoted it already.

so... um... it's Jeff's fault...

(p.s. meant in good fun...)


Oh, c'mon! If ANYONE would laugh at that, it'd be Jeb! :) Right, Jeb? *hmm ... I think I'm right.*

*I hope I'm right*
03/18/2007 02:30:03 AM · #78
Is it too late to join the AU5 club? I would love to be listed as a member. At the rate I am learning, I will be a 4.something forever. At this moment, I would just be happy to take my stupid camera off of automatic (if I only knew what to do then).

Thanks!
03/18/2007 03:02:52 AM · #79
Never too late to join!
We're glad to have you :-)

Check out this tutorial if you haven't already. It might be a help for non-automaticness. :-)
03/18/2007 06:14:45 AM · #80
Originally posted by posthumous:

Sorry, Jeb. I promised no more wisecracks, and I would delete it except that Jeff quoted it already.

so... um... it's Jeff's fault...

(p.s. meant in good fun...)


I can live with blaming Jeff.....8>)

My entry is a definite "Torture-the-DNMC-Police" entry and another blatant effort for an OOBIE.

You'll like it 'cause I know what you think of my type of entry!

That doesn't mean it'll do well though.....
03/18/2007 06:20:45 AM · #81
Okay.....is the average on my profile page live?

So that the challenge votes I'm getting arre included?

It seems to have changed since I looked at it yesterday......I'll have to watch it.

If so, even with my Grain hovering at about 6.6-6.7, I still qualify to be here!

TWO over 6.5 scores in my DPC career and I'm still an au5 member!

I *DO* suck!

ROTFLMSOAO!!!!!
03/18/2007 12:01:14 PM · #82
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

If so, even with my Grain hovering at about 6.6-6.7, I still qualify to be here!


the score isn't settled yet, so it can't be included (I mean, I guess technically it could but... no way). I'm sorry to break the news to you, but a monster score like that is going to pull a 4.95 right out of au5... but you have a month to drag it back down! :)
03/18/2007 12:07:03 PM · #83
Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

If so, even with my Grain hovering at about 6.6-6.7, I still qualify to be here!


the score isn't settled yet, so it can't be included (I mean, I guess technically it could but... no way). I'm sorry to break the news to you, but a monster score like that is going to pull a 4.95 right out of au5... but you have a month to drag it back down! :)

Actually, average score is indeed "real time" now, which is annoying to those of us who leave scores off. You can now tell if you're above or below your average during voting. Bah.
03/18/2007 02:45:13 PM · #84
Originally posted by Melethia:

Actually, average score is indeed "real time" now, which is annoying to those of us who leave scores off. You can now tell if you're above or below your average during voting. Bah.


So should I be happy that I'm still here with such great folks or depressed that I still suck?.....8>)

I'm just glad that one way or the other, I found out where the folks who really work with each other and their passion for photography go to be supportive of each other and scores be damned!
03/18/2007 06:09:33 PM · #85
Let me raise the level of discussion, if I may.

Real time is nothing!. Vincent Van Gogh had an average vote (by his peers) of under 5 during his lifetime when he submitted to the "Impressionist" challenges of his day. Salvador Dali had an average vote under 5 when he submitted to the "Surreaslist" challenges of his day. I don't even want to get into Botticelli and his submission to the "Renaissance Art Contest of Florence." "Real" time is the long view.

DPC isn't about scores. It's about learning. It's about a forum where showing off your work and whatever vision may be driving it is ... well, cool. It's about F'ing feedback - audience to photographer.

Buckle up sparky! Show me your courage! Your vision. Shoot for yourself! Find a quiet corner of the galaxy, stay out of history's way, but let history decide!!! I certainly do not have time to second guess history!!!!
03/18/2007 09:07:06 PM · #86
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

Real time is nothing!. Vincent Van Gogh had an average vote (by his peers) of under 5 during his lifetime when he submitted to the "Impressionist" challenges of his day. Salvador Dali had an average vote under 5 when he submitted to the "Surreaslist" challenges of his day. I don't even want to get into Botticelli and his submission to the "Renaissance Art Contest of Florence." "Real" time is the long view.

DPC isn't about scores. It's about learning. It's about a forum where showing off your work and whatever vision may be driving it is ... well, cool. It's about F'ing feedback - audience to photographer.

Buckle up sparky! Show me your courage! Your vision. Shoot for yourself! Find a quiet corner of the galaxy, stay out of history's way, but let history decide!!! I certainly do not have time to second guess history!!!!


Good points and for the most part true.

The thing about au5 and Team Suck is to have the views and reviews so that you can learn and grow rather than just get cut to pieces and tossed overboard like so much chum.

And after a while, your attitude changes and even if your entry doesn't go at all like you thought, the trail it leaves is interesting in its own right.

When you know trhat you have the constructive help after a challenge, you not only have your entry rated, but we work with each other to help figure out what and why, not just sitting there with no understanding of what happened.

The Time and Grain entries for me will be a terrific pair for me to learn from because they're being voted 180º from where I thought they'd be.

Either here, or at the Team Suck thread, I will be able to get intelligent, and measured responses to the questions I have.

That's what I need to sharpen my skills.

As happy as I am with my Grain score, it makes *no* sense at all to me that the voters like it better than my Time entry.
03/19/2007 08:03:15 AM · #87
If I may make a small hijack as a proud Au5 member;

A friend of mine at work would like me to take some photos of her. As I haven't done any work like that at all before I told her that if she agreed to be my guinea pig I'd only charge her what the photos cost to print. Fair deal eh? I get experience in portraiture and she gets some half decent photos real cheap.

I do have a question though, how should I get her permission to use the photos? I have heard of model releases, anyone got a sample?
03/19/2007 03:34:48 PM · #88
Anyone?
03/19/2007 04:24:24 PM · #89
Originally posted by Delta_6:

Anyone?

Google for:
"model release" sample
03/21/2007 01:54:36 AM · #90
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told ya i'd have a pic for you to comment on! i already know about my bad t-shirt choice and the barely visible wall outlet, so give me something i don't already know (but please, don't touch on how dark my image is, it is how i intended it to turn out as stated in the comment i left on my own pic) have fun!

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Message edited by author 2007-03-21 01:55:41.
03/21/2007 02:21:54 PM · #91
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Originally posted by dahkota:

I looked past the title which, I agree with Ed, is a little pretentious.

ok, anybody got a better title for when i do this pic again?
Originally posted by dahkota:

The composition bothers me in that the subject is centered but I don't think cropping on either side would work well. You need all those shadows here - they work amazingly well and in fact are a subject unto themselves. Maybe pulling back a little further, giving the subjects more room, would be the way to go. Then you can pull him off the right just a tad, to add a little more tension to an already tense scene.

the only problem i might have with that is that on one side of me you have an airhockey table and on the other side you have a foosball table. i can do this, but i'll have to move the foosball table out of the way. thanks :)
Originally posted by dahkota:

Not sure of the color or not - that one little spot in the shirt is a little distracting but the jeans aren't. Or its just me.

it's not just you, i wore my southpark shirt. it's Cartman on his trike being an "officer". next time i'm going to think about what i wear in this shot. thanks again :)
03/21/2007 03:34:58 PM · #92
thanks for the critique ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_F.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Melethia, equally encouraging as dahkota's. the only thing i really need to say about your critique, is that knowing my wardrobe, there are other shirts that would have worked great for this shot without distracting. i'm actually wearing two shirts, one with longer sleeves thats an off white, and one thats green with a little animation on the front. even when i was editing this i felt that the animation took away from the shot, but i only had one opportunity with the perfect lighting that day. that said, i only have one more issue...the name. anyways, thanks for your post. thanks to both of you. i've already learned about so many ways i could make this pic better, and hopefully i can apply this to other pics as well. thanks again!
03/21/2007 03:55:15 PM · #93
My scores have been dropping, and I haven't been taking many pictures. I thought I'd finally be able to join AU5, but I'm .0022 too high after this Grain entry:
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Maybe in a couple of weeks.

I actually thought this was both a good photograph and meets the topic in several ways (it has real film grain, large rice grains, and digital noise "grain"). I just follow my own path.
03/21/2007 04:09:24 PM · #94
you can still support!
03/21/2007 10:06:31 PM · #95
Originally posted by Muppet:

you can still support!


Sure. High scores aren't everything. What's important is that you are happy with what you're doing. (But I wouldn't refuse a ribon!)
03/21/2007 10:23:23 PM · #96
Pretty dang sure I'll be with ya on my next challenge entry. Seems to be trending that way lately, but for now...just a supporter (BARELY) at 5.0031.

*squeeks by for the moment**
03/21/2007 11:16:43 PM · #97
Originally posted by levyj413:

I'll toss out this offer: I'll comment on anything anyone asks for, provided you do a little work yourself. Send a PM telling me:
1) What you wanted to achieve
2) What reaction you hoped for in the viewer
3) What challenges you faced taking it, which you overcame, and how


I think these questions are so great, and can be applied not only to an individual shot but our photography in general.

So I am now announcing an

--AU5 Assignment!--


The assignment is to answer questions 1-3 about your photography. What do you want to achieve? Learning more? Making money? Would shock be an ideal reaction from your viewers? Would you rather lull them into a false sense of security before winning a ribbon at DPC? What are your challenges in photography and how do you overcome them?

I'd love for everyone here to do it but if you don't I will understand, and only tie you up and tickle your feet or something like that :-D Hopefully this will be a great way to start to get to know each other, for those of us who haven't met, and to learn more about ourselves as well.

To restate the questions:
1) What do you want to achieve in your photography?
2) What reactions do you hope for in your viewers?
3) What challenges do you face in photography, and how do you overcome them?

Message edited by author 2007-03-21 23:19:32.
03/21/2007 11:23:24 PM · #98
--AU5 Assignment!--

1) What do you want to achieve in your photography?

I want to learn more - specifically about post processing right now. More broadly, I want to never stop seeing the world through fresh and appreciative eyes.

2) What reactions do you hope for in your viewers?

I hope that people will maybe think about their world a little more. Maybe see something of beauty that they otherwise would not have seen.

3) What challenges do you face in photography, and how do you overcome them?
A big part of things for me right now is learning to be content - content with my very minimal equipment, and content with my skill level as a photographer. I try to overcome this by reminding myself that my photos are an expression of myself. They don't have to conform to a certain standard in order to be valuable and worthy. I am who I am and I know I have good things to offer.
03/22/2007 06:25:14 PM · #99
AU5 Assignment

1) What do you want to achieve in your photography?
I want to be published.

2) What reactions do you hope for in your viewers?
I want them to LOVE my pictures. Actually, I would even be happy if they just liked them for now :-)

3) What challenges do you face in photography, and how do you overcome them?
I feel so new to this all that I am lost. I am doing a ton of reading (but can't find my camera manual so only shooting on Auto). I have appreciated all the links for things to read here on this site. I have read them all and have been learning lots. I can't wait until I take my camera off of automatic and actually know what I am doing. The day will come (hopefully soon).

I have joined a local guild also that is very encouraging and educational.
03/22/2007 06:39:53 PM · #100
Yay!
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