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11/24/2003 09:55:34 PM · #1
yeah how bout me getting his camera, and i get to take a picture of a bowl of rice pudding eating kiwi
11/24/2003 05:22:24 PM · #2
Had a look at kiwiness's dcp entries and then at his portfolio ... as far as I am concerned they are ALL brilliant but I do see what you mean Gary, re competition shots. Rachel
11/24/2003 04:24:10 PM · #3
Seems young kiwiness's comments have..... opened a can of worms.....
11/24/2003 04:16:46 PM · #4
I think maybe there's just a misperception about the success of studio shots. Maybe this has been true in the past? I just went and looked at the winners of the past 30 challenges (well, the first 30 in the archives). A rough tally (in my faulty head) seems to show that there are slightly more winners of the outdoors/wildlife/nature/architecture type than studio shots. Some challenges lend themselves to studio shots (still life, science), others to outside shots (urban landscapes, insects), but in the more wide-open categories, outdoor shots still seem to outdo studios by a meaningful margin.

Maybe you guys just really like doing studio shots more than you want to admit to yourselves... :-o Or maybe you just feel safer with studio shots, since you've mastered many of the techniques? I don't know, but food for thought.

...and this from someone who has mastered nothing, and feels safe with no shot. So, not throwing stones, just offering another perspective...

Message edited by author 2003-11-24 16:17:48.
11/24/2003 03:56:36 PM · #5
Originally posted by Gordon:

I don't think that anyone is to blame as such. It is just a shame for the site.


Maybe more such kind of challenges which were about especially these kind of subjects: Candid, Architecture, Nature, Life-shots would help those who are voted low, now. I know there used to be such challenges, maybe there should be more of them. Just an idea. :-)
11/24/2003 03:21:19 PM · #6
Originally posted by ScottK:

@Gordon: So who's to blame? The community for showing a preference for a style of photo, or the photographer for compromising just to win a ribbon?


I don't think that anyone is to blame as such. It is just a shame for the site.
11/24/2003 01:34:38 PM · #7
Originally posted by kiwiness:

...I am so amazed at the quality of pics that end up way down the field. This to me is probably the true meaning to the title of this thread.


That's exactly the point. Just remember Nasti's Grace entry. Brilliant composition, technically excellent, met the challenge well, and only somewthat 58th place. Shame you are all still busy with only rice puddings and alcohol stuff, while ignoring such important viewpoints. (Don't misunderstand me, fun stuff like that is important part of our lives, too, but as I always say the way of seeing is the way of not seeing.)

Jon Lucas, you have also right. :-)

And, oh yeah, Kiwi's doing his very best to entertain you, but actually it's YOU who vote those high points for him. :-))) Anyway, is it a problem that he is trying to meet your taste?

...

Okay, I see you prefer the pudding war. :-)

Message edited by author 2003-11-24 14:15:22.
11/24/2003 01:03:28 PM · #8
I think we should just make a deal with the company that makes his favorite drink...

Make them bring to his house a truckful of his favorite Booze, wich would make him too drunk to shoot;)
11/24/2003 01:03:00 PM · #9
Chris Stein (of the band, Blondie) once said:
"To make something self indulgent and exclusive is easy. To produce creative, eclectic work of integrity that appeals to the masses is an underrated, much derided talent."
11/24/2003 12:52:20 PM · #10
Originally posted by mk:

Where did he say that? I missed it. If something was wrong enough, it wouldn't be happening...someone obviously likes the stock photos or they wouldn't keep winning.


I mentioned in the comments to my last photo that the kind of stock photography I take for DPC is not really the kind of photography I enjoy most. I only do it because I know that it is what is scored highly and that is my main objective here. I want to score high which I think is the main reason we submit photos to challenges. If you go through all the challenges and see what is in the top 20 of the results you'll see that it is mainly studio set ups and stock photography. So I figured if that is what does well then I'll do it too.

What I love to do is life photography, wildlife, nature, architecture and street life. You'll see a destinct difference between my portfolio pics and my DPC entries on that aspect. Most of this kind of photography does not do so well here and I am so amazed at the quality of pics that end up way down the field. This to me is probably the true meaning to the title of this thread.
11/24/2003 12:49:22 PM · #11
@Gordon: So who's to blame? The community for showing a preference for a style of photo, or the photographer for compromising just to win a ribbon?
11/24/2003 12:07:18 PM · #12
Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by Gordon:

It was illuminating to read that even Kiwi isn't very interested in shooting the sort of excellent stock photos that he wins with all the time here.

Is something messed up, if people have to shoot stuff that they know only has immediate impact but doesn't hold much interest for even the photographer, just to win here ?

Somehow, if even the photographer is saying he finds the winning pictures he takes uninteresting - something is wrong.


Where did he say that? I missed it. If something was wrong enough, it wouldn't be happening...someone obviously likes the stock photos or they wouldn't keep winning.


In his comments on the picture.
11/24/2003 12:05:51 PM · #13
Originally posted by Gordon:

It was illuminating to read that even Kiwi isn't very interested in shooting the sort of excellent stock photos that he wins with all the time here.

Is something messed up, if people have to shoot stuff that they know only has immediate impact but doesn't hold much interest for even the photographer, just to win here ?

Somehow, if even the photographer is saying he finds the winning pictures he takes uninteresting - something is wrong.


Where did he say that? I missed it. If something was wrong enough, it wouldn't be happening...someone obviously likes the stock photos or they wouldn't keep winning.
11/24/2003 11:49:25 AM · #14
Still beats the crap people submit sometimes, just to submit.
11/24/2003 10:53:09 AM · #15
It was illuminating to read that even Kiwi isn't very interested in shooting the sort of excellent stock photos that he wins with all the time here.

Is something messed up, if people have to shoot stuff that they know only has immediate impact but doesn't hold much interest for even the photographer, just to win here ?

Somehow, if even the photographer is saying he finds the winning pictures he takes uninteresting - something is wrong.

Message edited by author 2003-11-24 10:53:49.
11/24/2003 08:38:24 AM · #16
Rice pudding? No way. One word: wedgee.
11/24/2003 07:18:31 AM · #17
Keep inspiring us, Gary and why not now a soft focus of a bowl of rice pudding with chocolate ice cream??
Add some vanilla and cinnamon, you can enter it to Scents as well
11/24/2003 06:47:55 AM · #18
Originally posted by robsmith:

You've all been fooled - it's actually Nasti who takes the photos, Kiwi then sulks and refuses to talk to her until she gives in and lets him enter them.


So that's why Nasti had enough a couple of weeks ago, Gary, how wicked man you are! Hehe. Just joking. :-)))))

Nobody liked my idea, except Gary? Sniff-sniff... It seems we have just rebel souls here who don't like things in their ordinary ways. :-)
11/24/2003 06:34:38 AM · #19
Originally posted by robsmith:

You've all been fooled - it's actually Nasti who takes the photos, Kiwi then sulks and refuses to talk to her until she gives in and lets him enter them.


Told you not to tell anyone that!
11/24/2003 06:33:25 AM · #20
I always seem to get the bum end of the deal :-( I noticed I never got offered any rice pudding of chocolate icecream. But plenty of offers of being thrown in a lake or eating my camera tho. Sniff sniff...

Okay Marta the party part sound okay :)
11/24/2003 06:31:14 AM · #21
You've all been fooled - it's actually Nasti who takes the photos, Kiwi then sulks and refuses to talk to her until she gives in and lets him enter them.
11/24/2003 06:24:13 AM · #22
How about I eat chocolate Ice creem while kiwi gives me his camera and buys me a house on a lake??

Seriously ...great pix. congrats
11/24/2003 05:51:03 AM · #23
how about blindfolding him and repeatedly pushing him off of a table onto his camera? while i EAT rice pudding.
11/24/2003 03:02:17 AM · #24
Originally posted by amateurboi:

Just give me his camera okie? I've always dreamed about getting a 10D or 1D :)


Mmm... I think it's not within the camera, noone could use it such brilliant as Gary. :-)
What about making a party, eating the rice pudding and Kiwi could make some good shots of us?

Message edited by author 2003-11-24 03:18:28.
11/24/2003 02:55:02 AM · #25
Eeek, eating my camera, filling it with rice pudding and and and??? Aggggh!
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