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04/03/2007 04:01:56 PM · #1
I have Photoshop CS2 and a basic HP printer. When I print photo they are darker than what I see on my monitor.
Here are some of my settings if it helps
1. I shoot RAW files.
2. I shoot in sRGB.
3. I have PS set to sRGB.
4. My monitor (22” LCD) is calibrated correctly with adobe calibration.
5. I have tried print setting – Let the printer determine color and Let Photoshop determine color. Both came out the same.
6. I have a basic HP photo printer. Using Kodak Premium Picture Paper.

I have went through all the setting in Photoshop and on the printer that I know off and still can’t get it to print at the same brightness.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
SDW
04/03/2007 04:17:03 PM · #2
Have you looked at the Kodak paper website yet for your printer?
04/03/2007 04:20:18 PM · #3
Just took a look (thanks for the link) and I have the correct paper for my printer and correct cartridge for printing.
04/03/2007 04:24:03 PM · #4
having your monitor calibrated is not the same thing as having your monitor calibrated to your printer output. You need a printer profile to calibrate your monitor, or [not the greatest way, but i work at a magazine and get away with it] try to match your monitor to your print. But the main problem is one of color theory, and making colors with chemicals instead of making colored light.
04/03/2007 04:30:44 PM · #5
What model of HP printer?
04/03/2007 04:52:07 PM · #6
Color management is a very complex subject and don't let anyone ever tell you different. You will be fighting the issue of making your prints look like what you see on the screen forever. The best you will ever do is get 'close enough'.

In addition to having a properly calibrated monitor you have to have a printer/paper driver specific to your printer to get colors 'right'. Yes, the type of paper you print on has a BIG effect on how the image prints. Each printer/paper combination needs its own driver.

CS2 provides a facility to help you better match what you see on the screen with your printer's output. It is found with "View-->Proof Setup". Proof setup is used to adjust the screen display to look like other devices... like printers.

At the top of the dialog box that appears when you select "View-->Proof Setup" you will want to select "Custom" from the popup menu labeled: 'Custom Proof Condition:', then in the 'Device to Simulate:' box select the printer/paper driver that matches your printer and paper. What that does is adjusts the appearance of the screen to better simulate what the printer output will look like. That should help. That is what "Proof Setup" is for.

If none of this makes any sense to you then you will need to study color management more. That is a daunting, but necessary task.

Note:
You will sometimes read in DPC forums that you should set "Proof Setup" always to have "Monitor RGB" set and selected for web graphic work. This is unnecessary. That is because if "Proof Setup" is not toggled on then Photoshop assumes you monitor profile for display, which makes all the sense in the world if you think about it. Therefore you don't have to select it yourself. I recommend you leave "Proof Setup" selected for your most common printer/paper driver then you just toggle it on when you want to print and toggle it off again after printing.
04/03/2007 05:06:30 PM · #7
I had the same problem, ensure your printer set up is set to NO colour adjustment, and let photoshop determine colour.
Worked for me, but you may have other problems.
There is a tick box facility for decreasing the saturation by 20 percent, that may help.
Hope you sort it, very annoying.
04/03/2007 05:30:20 PM · #8
Originally posted by peecee:

I had the same problem, ensure your printer set up is set to NO colour adjustment, and let photoshop determine colour.
Worked for me, but you may have other problems.

Absolutely do that! That is critically important.
04/03/2007 07:14:39 PM · #9
Thanks for the advice. I will try some of the suggestions and see if it works. I rarely print pictures at home, I usually have them printed a wolf and they come out almost exactly like I see them on the screen. When I order from DPC Prints they also look like what I see on the screen.

ETA: The color is very close to what on my screen it the brightness.

Message edited by author 2007-04-03 19:17:09.
04/03/2007 08:07:29 PM · #10
When printing from Photoshop do one of the following:

1) Set to let photoshop to determine the colours and select the correct printer profile for the paper/ink being used. Make sure that the printer ICM is turned off in this case.

OR

2) Set to let the printer determine the colours, turn the printer ICM on and choose the appropriate paper/ink profile in the print driver.
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