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10/03/2007 12:28:31 PM · #1
I need to remove a shadow from one persons head and I'm not sure how I should go about it. I use CS2 but I've never done anything like this. If this is above what I can do is there any photo processing companies that would do this for a fee.

Thanks
Shane
10/03/2007 12:33:04 PM · #2
We need to see the image, Shane. ANYthing is doable in Photoshop, actually... The question is "how"? It might be easy, it might be difficult, but someone here will know a way.

R.
10/03/2007 12:36:40 PM · #3
I will upload the photo tonight. Thanks for the help. Is there any company that would do this for me.
10/03/2007 12:40:29 PM · #4
I am sure there are, no question; but if you wanna pay to have it done, there's plenty here who can handle it I am sure. Possibly even me, who could use the money :-)

R.
10/03/2007 12:51:23 PM · #5
I suspect if you post a full size version of the image and link to it here, you'll get half a dozen options sooner than you expect ;)
10/03/2007 01:04:17 PM · #6
yep, some people would even do it just for a comment (I am in an evil mood today)
10/03/2007 01:09:36 PM · #7
Hey you guys! Stop horning on my paying job here :-)

R.
10/03/2007 01:18:09 PM · #8
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Hey you guys! Stop horning on my paying job here :-)

R.


Obviously the quality of the final result is going to be higher for the paid versions, though - right...? FWIW, I wasn't offering to do the editing :)

Message edited by author 2007-10-03 13:18:30.
10/03/2007 01:22:30 PM · #9
Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Hey you guys! Stop horning on my paying job here :-)

R.


Obviously the quality of the final result is going to be higher for the paid versions, though - right...? FWIW, I wasn't offering to do the editing :)


Unless Brad gets ahold of it; he works for peanuts and he's hard to beat :-)

R.
10/03/2007 11:43:39 PM · #10
Here is the full size version if i did it right. Hope so! Thanks and let me know how much this would take the woman in red is the main shadow i need removed.

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10/03/2007 11:44:48 PM · #11
this family wants a nice size photo of this shot so i need the details to be as good as can be. Thanks
10/03/2007 11:54:10 PM · #12
Me thinks you should reshoot with more flattering light. That's some mighty harsh squinty light there.
10/04/2007 12:00:08 AM · #13
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Hey you guys! Stop horning on my paying job here :-)

R.


Obviously the quality of the final result is going to be higher for the paid versions, though - right...? FWIW, I wasn't offering to do the editing :)


Unless Brad gets ahold of it; he works for peanuts and he's hard to beat :-)

R.


It begs the question why you didn't take him out when you had the chance.
10/04/2007 12:00:22 AM · #14
Originally posted by _eug:

Me thinks you should reshoot with more flattering light. That's some mighty harsh squinty light there.


Oh... eyes can be added too.
10/04/2007 12:19:11 AM · #15
If you choose to reshoot - I'd suggest using a flash. You're shooting in early morning light, it looks, facing into shadow. It'll prevent a lot of the shadows across their faces.

Stephanie
10/04/2007 01:12:06 AM · #16
Here's a 10-minute effort. I also did a little bit to reduce the glare on the brightest faces and brighten the darker sides of some faces. No extra charge. :)

Keep in mind the overall image quality will be low as a JPG made from a JPG.
[thumb]595341[/thumb]

Message edited by author 2007-10-04 01:22:10.
10/04/2007 04:59:38 AM · #17
Incidentally, did you take a handful of images like this? do you have some other source to work from? It can help a LOT.

When I did some group shots a month ago, I made sure that for every variation I was taking 3 pics. Some might have bracketed, but I wasn't interested in having different exposures, so just manually fired off 3 at a time.

When it came time to deliver, I had the ability to select different versions and every variation had one usable. Most had a second passable.

If they had not, I could easily have grabbed a set of eyes from one shot and moved it over to another shot or whatever...

Moral of the story: Look first, shoot thrice.

Even if you hadn't, there still might be something simple if you have other shots. If you have any other shots, even if they aren't very good, whoever you get to help you might be interested.

Correcting for varied shadows is a major PITA IMHO.
10/04/2007 05:28:48 PM · #18
Originally posted by _eug:

Me thinks you should reshoot with more flattering light. That's some mighty harsh squinty light there.


First I'd like to say I didn't shoot this photo. It was done by another photographer in the area and when the customer asked to remove the shadows he said he didn't do that. I have some experience in cs2 but have never removed a shadow. They are now asking for a 30x 40 of this shot and all i have are .jpg. So i'm not sure I can help them even if the shot were near perfect. I have tried to talk them into a reshoot but they like this photo and like the photographer who did it.
10/04/2007 05:43:28 PM · #19
Is it me or does everyone seem to be leaning back, as if on an angle, or the photographer was a bit too low,looking up?
10/04/2007 06:04:33 PM · #20
That full-size version is 1020x765... Less than 1 megapixel. I'm pretty sure 30x40 (that's 25 ppi) would be a stretch, even with something like GenuineFractals...

The MVC-CD500 is capable of 5 megapixels - check the resolution of the original file.

Still, I might play with it when I get home. And to echo Bear_Music, I don't think money can buy better editors than some folks here. =)

Cheers,
-Jeff
10/04/2007 06:16:45 PM · #21
Originally posted by CHIEFVOLS:

Originally posted by _eug:

Me thinks you should reshoot with more flattering light. That's some mighty harsh squinty light there.


First I'd like to say I didn't shoot this photo. It was done by another photographer in the area and when the customer asked to remove the shadows he said he didn't do that. I have some experience in cs2 but have never removed a shadow. They are now asking for a 30x 40 of this shot and all i have are .jpg. So i'm not sure I can help them even if the shot were near perfect. I have tried to talk them into a reshoot but they like this photo and like the photographer who did it.


Okay, so you're not in trouble if it doesn't work - it wasn't your shoot, and you're doing the customer a favor if it can be done at all?

I'd just explain to them that they won't get good results blowing up a small file to that size. If they still want you to do it, fine, but make it crystal clear that you recommend against it.
10/04/2007 06:46:30 PM · #22
Just curious, if it's not your pic did the people wanting you to get rid of the shadow and print it get permission from the original photographer? (Not being mean, just inquisitive).

The circumstances may very well be on the up and up.
10/04/2007 06:58:17 PM · #23
Originally posted by kawesttex:

Just curious, if it's not your pic did the people wanting you to get rid of the shadow and print it get permission from the original photographer? (Not being mean, just inquisitive).

Interesting question. That would definitely be a copyright issue. I have the same question every time I watch one of those home improvement shows where the designer blows up and/or edits the family's images. Some of them are obviously snapshot. Others obviously professional. They never seem to mention anything about the copyright issue, though.

Funny since "Hollywood" has been so zealous about infringement.
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