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02/06/2004 11:02:27 AM · #1
I would like you thoughts on this shot.

Thanks!!
02/06/2004 12:35:51 PM · #2
Very nice!

The only comment I can make right now is I think you need to adjust the white balance and get rid of the yellow snow.

Worth hanging on the wall!
02/06/2004 12:37:55 PM · #3
There is no easy way to white balance that shot.. I like it as is... you have two distinctly different temp light sources to deal with...
02/06/2004 01:50:53 PM · #4
White balance issue aside, I really like the composition and the leading lines. Your eye enters the image at about the lampost in the foreground and follows the "yellow brick road" to the park scene in the lower left hand corner, and then up the "emerald city path" to the skyline. Very nice. I also like the way the lampost mirrors the tall tower in the background.

I would like to see a white balance adjustment for the yellow in the foreground because that's so prominent and obvious. Can you post one?
02/06/2004 02:50:52 PM · #5
I hope you do not mind me taking a shot at your photo in Photoshop?

Here is just a quick 5 min shot at correcting the white balance with no special tools and just using your web photo.

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02/06/2004 04:33:04 PM · #6
Thanks for all the replies.

IMHO, there is no WB issue here. The lamps by the museum do give that yellowish cast. The entire Museum Campus here is illuminated with that warm yellow lamp @ night.

Calvus, not a problem. The adjusted shot removes quite a bit of the yellow, but I think it also lost the 'feeling'. However, I'm interested in your technique. do you mind sharing?

02/06/2004 05:21:50 PM · #7
Originally posted by chunsum:

Thanks for all the replies.

IMHO, there is no WB issue here. The lamps by the museum do give that yellowish cast. The entire Museum Campus here is illuminated with that warm yellow lamp @ night.

Calvus, not a problem. The adjusted shot removes quite a bit of the yellow, but I think it also lost the 'feeling'. However, I'm interested in your technique. do you mind sharing?


I agree that the feeling was lost. I like the yellow in the shot. I am actually a fan of yellow tint in my shots - get beat up over it all the time from the voters. But I like it. Maybe could be toned down just a touch, but I would chose your original over the one Calvus did. (no disrespect intended Calvus :])

But that is my opinion. I just like the more dominant warmth of the yellow tint.
02/06/2004 06:19:51 PM · #8
If the lamps are high pressure sodium they will give off that yellow tint.
But that does not make it natural or mean that you have to live with it.

But there is to much yellow in this shot.

The office lights in the buildings beyond and everything are all yellow.
It seems totally unnatural.

You can leave any amount of yellow that floats your boat.
There was nothing to the adjustment other than a simple channel adjustment.

I grew up in that white stuff and you know what yellow snow makes me think off :)

Just my 2 cents worth :)

Originally posted by chunsum:

IMHO, there is no WB issue here. The lamps by the museum do give that yellowish cast. The entire Museum Campus here is illuminated with that warm yellow lamp @ night.

Calvus, not a problem. The adjusted shot removes quite a bit of the yellow, but I think it also lost the 'feeling'. However, I'm interested in your technique. do you mind sharing?


Message edited by author 2004-02-06 18:24:15.
02/06/2004 06:28:44 PM · #9
I really like it. It is perfect!

I do like the one without the yellow but it does take away the warm mood from the original shot.
02/06/2004 06:35:16 PM · #10
The title of the shot is Chicago - Frozen?
It is not suppose to have a warm feeling according to the title.
02/06/2004 07:09:36 PM · #11
but its true to the eye, and all the light is unnatural light...


02/06/2004 07:14:34 PM · #12
I like both shots personally, but IMHO the color as 'corrected' by Calvus is more appealing to this viewer.
02/06/2004 07:34:32 PM · #13
Reprocessed the raw file and here a less saturated version.

really appreciate all the inputs. gets me thinking and trying different things. after toying with it. I think the final image will be something between the original and this one here. Will post that after I get done with it.

Thank all!

Message edited by author 2004-02-06 19:36:44.
02/06/2004 07:38:11 PM · #14
Originally posted by Calvus:

and get rid of the yellow snow.


Watch out where the huskies go, don't you eat that yellow snow....

Nanook had a plan.
02/06/2004 07:57:04 PM · #15
I like both versions. Is there a way to make the sky more even. Lighten up the top right corner?
02/06/2004 10:20:26 PM · #16
That's a great idea. I did like the sky in the second one. But I like the yellow and the blue in the lights in the first one.

Boy, Calvus. He is just learning and expermenting. Try not to be so hard on folks. Forgive me if I took your post wrong.

Originally posted by Niten:

I like both versions. Is there a way to make the sky more even. Lighten up the top right corner?

02/06/2004 11:04:52 PM · #17
Originally posted by chunsum:

Reprocessed the raw file and here a less saturated version.

really appreciate all the inputs. gets me thinking and trying different things. after toying with it. I think the final image will be something between the original and this one here. Will post that after I get done with it.

Thank all!


I like this one the best of all. The street lit snow is still there, but looks more natural!
02/06/2004 11:07:39 PM · #18
I did not think I came on strong?

chunsum asked for an opinion and I gave him one.


Message edited by author 2004-02-06 23:40:44.
02/07/2004 12:03:53 AM · #19
I personally like the original. It's almost post-card like with the yellowing effect making the lights seem more blue/green. A frozen tropical feeling almost.
Trina
02/11/2004 12:36:03 AM · #20
Once Again, Thanks for all the suggestions.

Calvus, it's all good. I got quite a bit of idea from your comments. thanks!

02/11/2004 01:05:11 AM · #21
Did you redo and of the processing or is it like your last post?
I really like what you have it is very nice.
If I came on to strong I am sorry.

Please show us any revised versions you may have.

Originally posted by chunsum:

Once Again, Thanks for all the suggestions.

Calvus, it's all good. I got quite a bit of idea from your comments. thanks!

02/11/2004 09:25:15 AM · #22
I will do that, as soon as I get a new power supply for my PC.
this little pIII notebook is not hacking it as a back up.
02/17/2004 09:25:47 PM · #23
Final Version

What do you think?
02/17/2004 11:12:11 PM · #24
Chunsum, here you go.

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Very simple: Use your magnetic selection tool to selection the snow. Then user Hue/Sat to desaturate the Yellows. Then go into Levels and with all channels selected, increase the brightness. Then finally, select the Blue channel and increase that a bit to give more realistic color to the snow.

I like the yellow lamp post and sky so I kept that as is.

02/18/2004 12:04:14 AM · #25
looks nice, but its not true to the scene.

doesn't make sense to have yellow like and white snow. does it?

I admit the original has a bit too much yellow and a bit too dark.
the second version looks too bland.
I revisit the location anotherday at the same time and tweak the raw to match then remove just a little bit yellow and brighten the image, both by 1 notch on the slider. it is very close and yet more pleasing to my eye.

I understand the concern of WB in digital photography, but I maintain the colors are accurate. and If I were to shoot the scene with film, i would get a very similar result.

I appreciate the suggestions and the adjusted images, open my eyes and options to what I can do to my images digitally.



Message edited by author 2004-02-18 00:13:11.
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